To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Above 1200 Sq/FT Re-Purposed Machine Shop

Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
I own a commercial building, part of which was a machine and welding shop. The building is old (construction on the oldest part began in the late 50s) and has been enlarged through several additions. It used to have multiple tenants, but eventually one tenant occupied all 10,000 square feet. Encroachment from highway expansion reduced parking significantly and when the remaining tenant downsized, the "leftover" 3,000 square feet was not rent-able due to lack of parking, so I moved my auto shop into it. Since it was a machine and welding shop, the electrical service is a stout 208 3-phase at 400 amps. The downside is that the ceiling is only 10-1/2 feet high, so I had to sell my asymmetric Rotary lift (it needed a 14' ceiling), but I got a deal on a Benwil two-post and an Eagle four-post lift. Interestingly, when raised to the maximum height on the lifts, I can comfortably work under them sitting on a roll-around stool. I also have a Kwick-Lift mid-rise ramp on roller skates.

The original '60s-era shop building was long and narrow, the size of four single car garages laid end-to-end; that is now used for my machine shop area (3/4 of it) and air compressor/large item storage (1/4 of it). There was originally a detached office and garage the size of a two-car garage with a center dividing wall. In between these buildings was added in the late '60s a one-car sized area. a two-car sized area and the main space, a four-car sized area. I only have one 12x10 overhead door and two exit doors. There's only one very small window, but two skylights. It's all cinderblock construction and mostly metal roof, but the original two buildings have wooden roofs all covered now with rubber membrane roofing.

The space was last occupied by small-engine lawnmower mechanics and was . . . filthy. It cleaned up nicely and all the interior walls have been repainted white, which brightened it up considerably. There is no heating and A/C, but I have plans to insulate and condition one of the single-car spaces for use as an office.

At first I hated the idea of the space being so chopped up, but quickly realized that there was lots of wall space. In the main area, I put up 40 linear feet of pegboard along just one wall. It's certainly not palatial (I did install a very nice toilet, however) but I can keep all my stuff in one place, have plenty of room and am getting things well organized.

OmwHvOml.jpg
Before moving in, the main electrical panel was well-hidden by the junk-pile. 400A, 3-phase service!

tEnBfU6.jpg
One nice surprise, this GasBoy pump was used to pump Varsol (I could smell some that was left in the hose) and it was left on the interior wall.

fHXsXUK.jpg
My front door, before I made the tenant clean up. The smaller overhead door opening was filled in with cinderblock since the door was rotten and access was blocked by the storage containers anyway.

U2KMFCVl.jpg
The back half of the main work area. there was a thick layer of dirt and grease all over the floor. The tenant left the exhaust fan because it "didn't work". I cleaned off the dirt, greased the bearings, replaced the fan belt, replaced the power cord -- good as new!
UPDATE: The fan motor finally self-destructed after 4 years of use and was replaced


The machine shop area. There were just two light bulbs in that room, only one of which worked. There was also a Korean War vintage fluorescent fixture hidden under an inch of dust and mill scale. The floor was covered in a layer of grease and dirt. It all cleaned up nicely.

sL1VILUl.jpg
Just inside the overhead door, this is a two-car sized area. The original office/garage area (that was a free-standing building) is just to the right. A single-car sized area is the the left; the machine shop area is further to the left. The two-post lift is now located here as you enter, the four post lift is in the far left corner of the main room and the Kwick-lift is straight ahead.

cWgthoU.jpg
The machine shop area is shaping up. More lights certainly help. I added even more after this picture was taken. I should have painted the ceilings white as well. 8(

CGzbEXRl.jpg
Still getting things organized. You can see how low the ceiling is, but the lift can get the car just high enough so that I can sit on a roll-around stool and reach under the car at a comfortable height.

gTtGZ41l.jpg
This is the view to the right (from the camera's point of view) of the overhead door and is the front of what was the detached outbuilding. Office on the left, old garage on the right. Just to the left of that red bucket is the restroom (there's no light in it for now). It was the mechanic's restroom for 40 years - it did not appear to have been cleaned during that time. The room on the left may or may not become my wife's crafts work area because I have some tentative plans to add a shower stall. The area on the right (the old garage) will house parts I now have stored in a mini-storage facility and save me more than a few bucks a month.

g5dsgPV.jpg
This corner was just wasted space, so I built some workbenches. The blue tape marks where I'll cut some interior windows for that office I plan just so I don't feel cooped up.

8HqijUll.jpg
Another shot of the four-post and Kwick-Lift. Again, note the low ceilings. It does help with the heat in the winter and the back door helps with a cross-breeze in the summer.

GbQumHpl.jpg
Every once in a while, I get a visitor. She likes to help clean up. That scaffold from Northern has come in very handy and makes a nice portable work table as well. Note the blue stripe on the wall. Each room has a different colored stripe (green, blue, red) and it makes it easier to tell the occasional helper where things are to be found, "It's in the blue room". The walls in the room with the air compressor are not painted and it has only one small light, so it got named the "dark room".

There is still a lot of work to be done on the space itself, but it's becoming more organized and fun.
 

Attachments

  • l7VsWv7l.jpg
    l7VsWv7l.jpg
    37.3 KB · Views: 77
  • sL1VILUl.jpg
    sL1VILUl.jpg
    39.1 KB · Views: 178
  • cWgthoU.jpg
    cWgthoU.jpg
    42.5 KB · Views: 181
  • CGzbEXRl.jpg
    CGzbEXRl.jpg
    43.8 KB · Views: 72
  • gTtGZ41l.jpg
    gTtGZ41l.jpg
    53 KB · Views: 70
  • g5dsgPV.jpg
    g5dsgPV.jpg
    37.4 KB · Views: 67
  • OmwHvOml.jpg
    OmwHvOml.jpg
    60.7 KB · Views: 83
  • tEnBfU6.jpg
    tEnBfU6.jpg
    36.5 KB · Views: 76
  • fHXsXUK.jpg
    fHXsXUK.jpg
    37.1 KB · Views: 72
  • U2KMFCVl.jpg
    U2KMFCVl.jpg
    44.7 KB · Views: 67
  • l7VsWv7l.jpg
    l7VsWv7l.jpg
    37.3 KB · Views: 67
Last edited:
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
I discovered I can link to a "large thumbnail" size in Imgur just by appending a lowercase letter 'l'to the URL. They should be more better now.

I also discovered that Imgur doesn't like you to link your images as "content" to another site, so I just self-hosted the images myself since I run several websites for car clubs.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Here's a few shots from my old shop, about 1/4 mile away from my present location. It was about 2200 square feet (1/3 of that was an office), had 24-foot ceilings and , while it accommodated my Rotary lift, it was impossible to keep it warm in the winter and had no cross-ventilation in the summer..
UWc2mC5l.jpg
Rmx1oRGl.jpg
pQfA3A5l.jpg
cn0pmEgl.jpg
EptqpKbl.jpg
G3JG1VJl.jpg
MVC-480S.Jpgdsc00139.jpgDSC00463.JPG
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Here's a photo perspective most guys don't have for their shop. This was taken in May, 1967 before many of the building additions were made. The shop can be seen in the lower right hand corner of the photo. The large rectangular dark-roofed building in front of it is an upholstery shop. Behind that is the long rectangular building that was/is the machine shop. Just above that building to the right you can see the freestanding office/garage area. It was about a year later that the upholstery shop was demolished and replaced and the area between the shop and the garage was "filled in " to create a 10,000 square foot building. That cluster of buildings to the left and the adjacent open area are now occupied by a new car dealership. The buildings to the right of the shop are now all gone and the property is owned by the state. I imagine my place might fall to redevelopment within a decade.
aooznFEl.jpg

As requested, here's a modern day image of the same location.
2YNGs3vl.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 2YNGs3vl.jpg
    2YNGs3vl.jpg
    89.6 KB · Views: 57
  • aooznFEl.jpg
    aooznFEl.jpg
    119.2 KB · Views: 53
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
pzszNTtl.jpg
NE9tyqEl.jpg
The Benwil BW9 lift came from a local Ford dealership when they updated their service area. I had to dig and pour two 4x4x2 footings for it since the concrete shop floor is only about 3" thick! The lift is solid as a rock now. That's the future office behind that wall with some potential windows marked off.x8JdUggl.jpgKU3Snixl.jpgfgbJzjgl.jpgHNAEmOSl.jpgcQ14Ho5l.jpg
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
ztm5CcOl.jpg
Inside the front door (note the Gasboy pump) where I've organized my electrical work tools and supplies.
1fMp9yTl.jpg
I scored all those nice, modern cabinets when my daughter remodeled her kitchen in a style better suited to her turn-of-the-century farm house, so that's my office for now. That strange, bright light from above is not a heavenly blessing, just an infrared heater.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
S1YREKKl.jpg

The car on top is a 1954 Triumph TR2, TS-561L, which was the 561st TR2 manufactured. Since body panel shipments were delayed, the bonnet (hood), dash and spare tire cover were hand-made at the factory from aluminum. I fabricated the stands to free up some floor space since the TRs are a longer-term project. The car on the bottom is a 1960 TR3-A which was included with the factory steel hard top and overdrive transmission I purchased; a bonus car! On the floor, here's a low-mileage Mopar 360/727 a friend pulled from the boneyard for his vintage Winnebago which was subsequently crushed under some snow, so he gave the engine to me. Maybe I'll find a nice Chevy pickup trucks sans motor and trans.

zNPq6Ifl.jpg
I have a ready-to-be-assembled red 1959 TR3 stashed in my mom's garage that needs to make its way here so it can be put together. My first car in high school was a TR3; I couldn't afford a muscle car of the era. When I was 17, I nearly bought a '40 Dodge Business Coupe with a 440 Max Wedge, but the guy refused to sell it to me because I'd kill myself with it. He was probably right.

w79Xgetl.jpg

Forty-four feet of pegboard.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
VY6oQiRl.jpg

LL2PkpGl.jpg


Unpainted, dark, smelling like the oil that leaked in gallons from the crappy Ingersoll-Rand air compressor, this is the "dark room". The room needs some more shelves. Think I have enough junk?
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
kRGGG8Jl.jpg
aeLxpR3l.jpg
The machine shop continues to become better organized. I assembled bases for the 3-in-one and belt sander and finally got the band saw operating properly. A red stripe needs to be painted on the wall (this is the "red room") and I have some re-purposed ceiling fans to hang (the room gets little to no ventilation in the summer).

vF4MkJ0l.jpg

For now, the machine shop is the temporary home for the webserver for my car club's website which also serves up most of these images.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
bDjlmChl.jpg

I've got too much stuff. Besides my stuff, I have all the garage stuff from my late father, my late father-in-law and a closed radiator business I had with my nephew. There's also some stuff from the family business. I also like the Marx 'Big Red' hotrod as you can see. I started panting the stripe in the "red room", then it got cold.

The Weiand supercharger is the same one as seen here. It's for the GM Goodwrench 350 destined for the Auburn. All the machine work is done, just awaiting assembly.

UPDATE: My son-in-law Matt and I finally built the SBC with the Weiand blower in 2016, but it will go in my wife's car, a 1939 Plymouth convertible. You know, you have to keep the wife happy . . .
RtLoHRTl.jpg2016-08-26 18.16.44.jpg
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
tGfk39il.jpg
This is the original office space. That hole in the wall to the left leads to the toilet; no door so far. Sharp eyes might spot a hot dog rotisserie machine to compliment the Body Twirler on the left.

j5G84lxl.jpg
This is the area adjacent to the old office that used to be a single-car garage. It will eventually hold the contents of a mini-storage unit full of Triumph TR2/3 parts. Those are TR3 transmissions on the floor and a motorized Worksman bicycle in the corner. Sharp eyes may notice the cast iron Chevy big block headers at the back. I like the Chinese lantern from the Chinese food store across the road. It blew over here during a storm a decade ago and never left.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
XTdInhQl.jpg
I took all these pictures today because I cleaned up this mess in what will be my new office space, but I failed to take an 'after' picture. Actually, it wouldn't look much different, but I did find some things I've been looking for.
UPDATE: It's still a mess, only with new stuff in it after I cleaned out the old stuff.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Sweet!

Here are some pics of mine. The drive-train had been upgraded to an early TR3 which also provided some seats and interior pieces and the front apron. The original color was Sebring White with Blackberry interior. I'm missing the taillights and passenger grab bar. I do have all the very rare baby-Tenax fasteners. I hope your TR2 is in better shape than mine.:)

Vu3lOJI.jpg

YO7bkxRl.jpg

You can see where somebody painted the Blackberry (it's really a dark purple) trim black.
V9cif4wl.jpg
Unmolested long door. I also have the original wing beading buried under Bondo.

Hmmm. I've misplaced my other TR2 pictures . . . . .

Does yours have any aluminum panels?
 
Last edited:
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

coljar

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 26, 2010
Messages
6,243
Location
Belpre, Ohio
I have the original aluminum bonnet, but the other parts are steel. I'm missing the correct grab bar, too. I think we are in about the same condition on the car. The bottom of my dog legs are going to get new metal welded in, but most of my sheet metal on the outside is good. I've already have the new floor pans, with one welded in place. The other is fitted and ready for welding. It's been on hold during the new garage build, which I will start a thread about it soon.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
I noticed from the other photos that my front door looked like ****, so a few rattle cans of Hunter Green took care of that. . . kinda. The door is in pretty bad shape and I plan on replacing it. It had not been opened since the early 70s until I opened it when I moved in.
X5UVJYjl.jpg
X5UVJYjl.jpg

I noticed that the door is 2-1/2" shorter than standard and you can see that the hinges have been re-located and welded in their new location. I'd appreciate any advice on how to deal with this when it comes time to replace the door.
Umdn6lOl.jpg
Umdn6lOl.jpg
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
There is no exterior lighting for the building, the tenant not seeming to care too much about security despite several burglaries over the years. These are lights that had been purchased for the family business but were unusable there. (Note to self: Do not listen to "lighting consultants".) I've outfitted each with a photo-cell. The interior wiring is already in place; they'll get put up when I get some help lined up.
CT3ISxRl.jpg
CT3ISxRl.jpg

UPDATE: 8/22/2014 Those lights finally got installed.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Today, I'm cleaning up this rat's nest of wiring, a good portion of which is old work that was never removed.
2LiDXFql.jpg
2LiDXFql.jpg
iIXu3HKl.jpg
iIXu3HKl.jpg
Somebody didn't like replacing box covers. Bad, bad.
 
Last edited:

ratdoggy

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 27, 2009
Messages
11,971
Location
Akron-Canton area OH
Today, I'm cleaning up this rat's nest of wiring, a good portion of which is old work that was never removed.
2LiDXFql.jpg

iIXu3HKl.jpg

Somebody didn't like replacing box covers. Bad, bad.

Looks better than the wiring at my old house. When I tore the ceiling down there were several connections made outside of the boxes. Wire nuts (and electrical tape if I was lucky)
 

MPOWERD

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 7, 2011
Messages
578
I noticed from the other photos that my front door looked like ****, so a few rattle cans of Hunter Green took care of that. . . kinda. The door is in pretty bad shape and I plan on replacing it. It had not been opened since the early 70s until I opened it when I moved in.
X5UVJYjl.jpg


I noticed that the door is 2-1/2" shorter than standard and you can see that the hinges have been re-located and welded in their new location. I'd appreciate any advice on how to deal with this when it comes time to replace the door.
Umdn6lOl.jpg

Am I seeing this right? Are the hinge bolts located on the OUTSIDE of the door? Doesn't that make it very easy to pop the hinge bolts and remove the door to break in?
 
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Am I seeing this right? Are the hinge bolts located on the OUTSIDE of the door? Doesn't that make it very easy to pop the hinge bolts and remove the door to break in?

Local building code requires that the only exit door available open outward. The hinge pins don't appear to be designed to be removed without a gas axe.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Looks better than the wiring at my old house. When I tore the ceiling down there were several connections made outside of the boxes. Wire nuts (and electrical tape if I was lucky)

I've worked on cars with wire nuts and electrical tape. One mess like that was squeezed with a zip tie to maintain a viable connection. You read that correctly.

Not only have I found connections in the shop made outside of any junction box, but there are four 120V circuits with no neutral, relying only on the conduit and an occasional ground wire to complete the circuit and in a few circuits, the ground wire looks like it is 16 gauge, all connected to 20-amp breakers! It's been de-energized since I moved in, but all that wiring is being removed ASAP.

Forty years without a fire for this wiring farkup must be some kind of record.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
February was not a good month to work in the garage. Besides being too damn cold, I pulled some muscles in my right arm and have a bad left shoulder to boot, so it was more productive to stay at home. That said, I needed some storage shelves to hold some items for my youngest daughter who moved to a smaller place and could not afford to rent a storage unit. It was nice of my oldest daughter to volunteer to help me and I enjoyed spending the time with her.
ETlaiTpl.jpg
ETlaiTpl.jpg

The shelves went in the infamous "dark room". They are 12 feet long, 2 feet deep and the top shelf is 8 feet high. Counting the floor under them, that yields nearly 100 square feet of storage. Yes, the top self is high, but she has several large bulky lightweight items that will be stored there.

BBTQL99l.jpg
BBTQL99l.jpg
Two happy carpenters. She works on cars also; we built a coral-colored '72 VW for her 16th birthday.

Next up is a shorter 12-footer of similar design in another room so I can move some things out of my garage at home -- maybe the car will fit in it again.
 
Last edited:

Omphaloskeptic

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 11, 2008
Messages
2,346
Location
Ultima Ratio, Wa.
Man-o-man, you've got s-s-s-c-h-i-t-t-u-f-f-f-f; I can relate! Where, oh where, did you have this 'collection' before you moved to this 3000 sq. ft. play space? Kudos to you on the ongoing cleanup. It looks like you are getting it modernized and organized at the same time; quite a balancing act!

Since your first car was a TR3, you or your Mom should have some pics of you with your first car floating around somewhere. For the sake of both 'wasted youth' nostalgia and 'mid-life-crisis' motivational inspiration, might I suggest you get a couple of those pics blown up, framed, and prominently hung in your new office? If nothing else, they'll give your girls something to giggle about as they ask the inevitable question - "Dad, is that YOU?" and the following statement - "Gee Dad, what happened to you?". This is where you turn to them grinning and state "What happened to me?... DAUGHTERS HAPPENED TO ME!!!" :lol_hitti
 
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Man-o-man, you've got s-s-s-c-h-i-t-t-u-f-f-f-f; I can relate! Where, oh where, did you have this 'collection' before you moved to this 3000 sq. ft. play space?

Started out with my two-car garage. Then I added stuff from my dad's garage when he passed away and my father-in-law's garage when he passed away. Then a car and it's parts stored in my mom's garage. Then stuff from a closed radiator shop I had with a nephew, all moved in to a 2,000 sq. ft. space plus two storage units. Now I'm consolidating it all here, organizing it, selling some things, giving away some things, throwing away some things. finding things I thought I lost years ago.

And having a helluva great time.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Here is the new shelf in the "garage " room. It's 6 feet high, 12 feet long, 2 feet deep. My daughter helped with this one as well; she's pretty decent at carpentry.This room had been paneled and had a suspended ceiling which was removed to enhance the storage space. The lights need to be relocated closer to the ceiling.
2OeW932l.jpg
2OeW932l.jpg

The remainder of the room will hold Triumph TR3 parts now housed in a storage unit, saving me about $185 a month. All the shelving in that storage unit is food-service grade Metro wire shelving that was being thrown away by a local restaurant because it had gotten old and rusty and would no longer meet the "health code". It's light, sturdy and strong and car parts don't need any stinking 'health code".
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
Already starting to fill up the first set of shelves, with a 6-foot ladder for reference.
xuBTyAVl.jpg
xuBTyAVl.jpg
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
ZXLB3lFl.jpg


With the help of my buddy Dave (and AAA), I was able to move the '37 Plymouth coupe from my driveway to the shop. The column mounted starter switch appears to have gone bad. Perhaps it was the friends it hung around with . . .
ZXLB3lFl.jpg
At least it's good for a change to work on the cars instead of the shop.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
I finally got the rented storage unit emptied out.
3rsnG8El.jpg
3rsnG8El.jpg
It was too much for my buddy Dave.

pG0AfpVl.jpg

pG0AfpVl.jpg
I put some flakeboard down to store lightweight, bulky things, fenders, doors, front apron, removable hardtops: all Triumph TR3 .
GMss0rNl.jpg
GMss0rNl.jpg

Seats, interior panels, miscellaneous.

HiuVcTil.jpg
HiuVcTil.jpg
I was surprised at how much space was left. Time to add more stuff!

sJUyWPYl.jpg
sJUyWPYl.jpg
Because I still had more things to store. I'll have to hang the frame from the rafters since I'm tired of stepping over it. (NOTE: Finally got put away August 2014, a year later.)

YvsbmSml.jpg
YvsbmSml.jpg
Anyway, I had to make room for a one-owner, stock 1954 Desoto Firedome that belongs to a high-school friend of mine.
 
Last edited:
OP
H

hoyt

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 6, 2006
Messages
438
Location
Virginia Beach
I've continued to work on the Desoto Firedom (parts are problematic) and had some unexpected repairs to the coupe. The power steering pump bolt worked free and loosened the belt and it got chewed up.
aCEsICdl.jpg
aCEsICdl.jpg
b9YCkQfl.jpg

b9YCkQfl.jpg
Since it's the summer, my seasonal business keeps me busy leaving no time for work on the garage itself. That will have to wait for the Fall.
 
Last edited:
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom