Real old school build...no nails.

[rbonitz]

Here's something a bit different... I have some real old school craftsman building this "carriage shed" . All materials so far are from my farm... Fieldstone and framing - Oak beams and poplar for the rafters. These guys work from their own sketch with only a tape measure and a square. - Two guys spent three weeks cutting all of the joints and pre-drilling everything on site. They used electric drills and saws, but chiseled the pockets by hand. Amazingly the entire frame went up in a single day and everything fit. There are no nails in the framing, only pegs. There was no formal drawing or plans for the framing (not required for less than thousand square foot outbuildings and this is 999).

Anyway, I thought you guys might enjoy something different from usual pole barns and stick buildings...

 

[91FE]

Simply badass!

 

[KCarGuy]

That is Cool...
Craftsmanship and Pride!
Taking the Time to do that right. I Love the Look of that. Thanks!

 

[Ray Kelly]

I love those structures that are built that way. So cool!!

 

[ADSR]

Craftsmanship and Pride!

This ^^^^

 

[Steevo]

It is good to know that this kind of skill and craftsmanship is still alive and well.
What will go on top of the roof?

 

[jwith68]

That's a thing of beauty! More photo's, please!

 

[bullnerd]

Very cool but you have a dead post?

The one holding the roof should be inline with the one going to the foundation to transfer the load.

 

[aka Larry]

Very impressive work!

 

[NUTTSGT]

This stuff has always amazed me with the detail and craftsmanship. Thank you for posting those pictures and don't be afraid to post more of them.

 

[rbonitz]

Here's another picture. You can see the cedar shake roof in progress. This is going real slow as they use real hammers not nail guns.

I'm not sure why they didn't line up that post... These guys build exactly how they think things should be and don't talk much (they don't drive either). They do everything the way they have always done it and the bank barn in the background from early 1800s has very similar construction.

I'll try to post more pictures....

 

[NUTTSGT]

Umm, I see a nice place there in the background. Bank barn ? It doesn't appear to be built into a bank, but hell, I think we need MORE pics of this place.

 

[rbonitz]

It is a bank barn...(with a pole barn next to it) but my pictures ****. I started to post a thread a while back but lost momentum.

 

[nolimits76]

Wow, cool stuff. It's rare to see this around here, but it does exist.

I'm guessing you hired some Amish builders. Around here they farm, cook, build, etc on natural resources. No cars, no electric, etc. Several of the farms are well known for opening their basements and turning large crowds for dinner service. All home grown and cooked stuff. Inside lighting is gas fed. A few of them offer construction services for things like you are taking on.

 

[NUTTSGT]

It is a bank barn...(with a pole barn next to it) but my pictures ****. I started to post a thread a while back but lost momentum.

Ahh, so it is. I was looking at the surrounding area and it appeared to be all flat. I think you need to regain that momentum.

 

[bgarrett]

this is a good one for the barn forum

http://justbarns.proboards.com/

 

[upndown]

There's a guy on the way to my cabin that does that type of work, He has a saw mill..makes his own natural edge siding, hand carved beams..etc.

I take him a 30 pack of his favorite beverage and we load up my truck and trailer with cutoffs and scraps for my firepit. Beautiful looking place you've got there!

 

[Garage Dog]

There is an art to getting joints to fit like that - the simplicity is deceiving...

It is pleasing to see that sort craftsmanship is still alive - please pass my compliments along to your crew...

Very Cool - Thanks for taking the time to share with us!

Just curious:

How old are the builders and what is the "carriage shed" going to be filled with?

 

[rieferman]

Wow, love it. My old barn is similarly joined and I thought it was so beautiful that I kept the beams exposed when I finished the interior. It's an art for sure, and a strong way to build - but it's slow and time is money, therefore you don't see as much of it anymore.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[nmcqueen469]

Wow, how awesome! Your bank barn/pole barn is similar in structure to mine (in my avatar.)

We need more pics!

 

[KULIWOBBY]

Very cool! Nice work and craftmanship.

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

+1 for more pics, please!

Not only is the joinery a thing of beauty, but the stonework looks to be well-laid and hand fitted. I'd love to see some close-up pics of the wall corner work.

 

[rbonitz]

Thanks guys... I don't want to hijack my own thread, but there are some pictures of the "showroom" side of my pole barn here.... My shop is the other side of the pole barn and nowhere near as clean. I've used a lot of garage journal wisdom in getting it in shape.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21482852@N05/sets/72157632708236505/

I was going to move my truck and tractor to the carriage shed - to free up room for more cars - but it is too nice for that and I think I will put cars and some my collection of old gas pumps and other junk there. I was also going to put in a floor and loft - but now I think I'll leave it open to expose the beams etc.

The stonework for the shed is very well done - it matches my barn almost exactly and all of the stones were well weathered from sitting in piles (after being picked from the fields over the years).... I'll try to take some better pictures - but here are a few more.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21482852@N05/sets/72157634816196103/

 

[geaugafletcher]

Fantastic. Brings a tear to the eye - when one speaks of living history, this is referenced.

 

[jwhcars]

Very nice !! You have something to be proud of & you built a new piece of history.

 

[1/2 Cup]

This ^^^^

Awesome

 

[kentenn]

That is really cool! The design/craftsmanship is over the top. WOW!!!

 

[Thumper68]

Beautiful!!

I took a 6 Saturday course taught by a Amish father and son about 15 years ago. I still have all my notes from it with sketches of all the joints. Every few years I take it out and look through it someday I will build a post frame building.

 

[RickP]

I love to see woodworking like that. The things those old-style carpenters can do just amazes me. Nice build!

 

[Lippyp]

That is Fantastic work and lovely to see on a new barn.

The inside of the old part of my house is just like that as it started life timber framed in oak, some of which is salvaged from old sailing ships as it was built in 1630. My roof in France is also very similar with hand (see sawn) timbers but possibly in sweeet chestnut. Over here in the UK oak framing has made a bit of a comeback and we've recently had a quote to have a green oak framed extension to the house built, the guy that came to quote has been making oak frames for about 20 years and made me feel tiny and thats tough as I'm a solid 6'3" with a 50" chest, the guy was a man mountain!

 

[rbonitz]

I'll post some more pictures as this project goes on. The builders are not amish - but they are from a sect with similar beliefs.... Before going with them I did have this project specced with a modern company that used CAD and computerized milling etc. - They would have brought pre-cut lumber and built on site. Their price was around 40K. With these guys, using my own trees it is going to come in around a third of that.

These builders are all from same huge family - an older gentleman in 60s with around a dozen sons - Two of the sons have done most of the work. Rates are extremely reasonable but you have to pay a driver to bring them and pay each seperately. They also have their own saw mill and do mill work and cabinetry.

Unfortunately there is some sort of blight that is killing oak trees in our area -so we didn't cut any live trees....hopefully oak beams like this will not become rare like chestnut in the next century.

 

[kidatari]

What a fantastic build. The craftsmanship is fantastic, I'd love to be able to support artisans like that.

 

[Burl]

An Amish build?

 

[Bull]

Love: I am in it.

I like the aggressive slope of the front portion of the roof; I haven't seen anything exactly like that before.

 

[walrus]

Beautiful building, those oak beams make that one rugged building. Don't think they lifted those in place by hand. Cedar shakes will last a life time if they can dry out after it rains. Good stuff

 

[hh76]

And people say us garage folk can't appreciate art! Every aspect of that building is pure art.

I see you have about a 10kw PV system also, looks nice.

 

[gbh]

Thank you for posting. That truly is beautiful. It must be nice to know that you're part of something that will be around after we are all long gone!

 

[polexican23]

She's a beaut Clark. I wouldnt enclose it or cover any of that craftsmanship.

 

[macattak]

Wow! That is very cool. Thanks for sharing with us.

 

[jwith68]

So, umm, any updates? (hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge...)