Redundant Spark Plug Sockets

[Tostal]

What?... no love for the 13/16 spark plug socket?

I've got one that's marked 13/16" - 20.6mm, and I love it.
Hell, I love all my spark plug sockets.
Never met a spark plug socket I didn't at least like.

T~

 

[Tostal]

Changed a set of plugs on a Toyota Auris (Corolla hatchback).
It needed a 14mm plug socket that is 12 point.
(luckily I had bought one ages ago, even tho' I had no need for it at the time- just liked the look of it,
it's 10 inches long, and iirc, was recommended for some Renault/Dacia models over here).

T~

 

[Tostal]

------------------------------ I hate the lawn mower. Everything on it is sharp. No matter how careful I am changing its two easily accessible spark plugs, it's a week before my knuckles grow back. I don't get it.

-Ryan

Maybe try wearing heavy gloves?

I managed to gash my pinkie finger recently while starting my newest weedwhacker - this new one had a plastic lever that you pull to engage the choke (it is automatically disengaged when you open the throttle), the plastic had a sharp edge that did the damage - I'll be wearing heavy gloves from now on...

T~

 

[rockettauto]

5/8 is 15.875mm.
(.6250 vs .6299)
They are not the same, but typically close enough for use on a fastener head.

Yes, im being THAT guy...

Width across flats for hexnuts :

5/8= .932-.938"
16mm= .932-.945"

So many are in fact the same.

Now I'm THAT guy.

 

[rockettauto]

Only now did I realize that I had FIVE 5/8ths spark plug sockets and not a single 16mm WTF is up with that? Two 13/16ths as well.

Only one of the 5/8ths works on my son's dirtbike so thank goodness for variety lol.



And wait... you have a 3/8ths draw? Damn, I need one of those!!!!

There for a while everything you bought came with a spark plug socket or two. I could probably weld furniture up out of the amount of them I've had.

 

[cgrutt]

There for a while everything you bought came with a spark plug socket or two. I could probably weld furniture up out of the amount of them I've had.

Been a lifetime of collecting honestly couldn't say where these came from. Only recall using the Snap-on 5/8ths as of late.

 

[KnurledNut]

Width across flats for hexnuts :

5/8= .932-.938"
16mm= .932-.945"

So many are in fact the same.

Now I'm THAT guy.

Huh?

 

[rockettauto]

Huh?

Oops, I looked at the chart from thread size.

Anyway the nuts themselves at 16mm and 5/8 have standard tolerances of about .011- .013" so being they're only about 5 thou different the majority of the nuts will actually be the same.

Nevermind the probably massive overlap in socket size tolerance. There are probably 5/8 sockets that are closer to 16 than 16s and vice versa.

 

[KnurledNut]

Oops, I looked at the chart from thread size.

Anyway the nuts themselves at 16mm and 5/8 have standard tolerances of about .011- .013" so being they're only about 5 thou different the majority of the nuts will actually be the same.

Nevermind the probably massive overlap in socket size tolerance. There are probably 5/8 sockets that are closer to 16 than 16s and vice versa.

So, in trying to correct accurate information you had to correct yourself.
There is a lot of knowledge here. Try adding water to your concrete before sending it down the chute.
Regardless, welcome to the board.

 

[Dakotadadv8]

Spouse asked me the same questions why do you need more tools, ratchets, sockets, wrenches, etc. I may need it if I lose or break it. She would also ask why do you need Snap On, CM is cheaper at Lowes or HF, I say it may break during a project and I may get injured, my labor is more valuable so I deserve the best. So far this has worked last 20 years.

 

[VolvoRyan]

Maybe try wearing heavy gloves?

I managed to gash my pinkie finger recently while starting my newest weedwhacker - this new one had a plastic lever that you pull to engage the choke (it is automatically disengaged when you open the throttle), the plastic had a sharp edge that did the damage - I'll be wearing heavy gloves from now on...

T~

Ouch! I've been thinking that I should be wearing gloves when doing yard work.... or working on the yard tools. I already cover myself with a nerdy sun hat, sun shirt, pants, and geeky prescription safety glasses.

-Ryan

 

[dnschmidt]

I have a whole box full of 16mm, well in truth I've got a full box of 14mm too, spark plug sockets. Why? Because that's how TOPTUL sells them. But that's pretty pedestrian, What's cool is that I also have both in T-handle. Check these out.

14mm: https://www.toptul.com/en/product-325213/T-Handle-Magnetic-Spark-Plug-Socket.html
16mm: https://www.toptul.com/en/product-325214/T-Handle-Magnetic-Spark-Plug-Socket.html

What's amazing is how much torque you can apply with the T-handle. I often don't need a ratchet to remove plugs. They are even better at removing and installing the plugs post breaking them loose and pre-torqueing them. Obviously they work better on overhead camshaft engines with the plugs on top than they would on a SBC.

 

[Sumboodie]

And the point is? I have at least 20 spark plug sockets most of which I'll never use again as my Toyota takes 14mm (9/16 for those still using the antiquated imperial system) spark plugs.

14mm is .551"

9/16" is .5625"

 

[steel 35]

Do your spark plug sockets all still have the rubber ******

 

[Sumboodie]

My OCD is killing me that 18mm and 3/4 havent been included in this discussion.
I feel much better now.

18mm is a fair bit smaller than 3/4".
19mm is .748"

 

[dnschmidt]

15mm is .551"

9/16" is .5625"

No, 15mm is .5906" 14mm is .5512" 9/16" is the closest Imperial size to 14mm and is 0.0113" bigger than 14mm but will still work fine for changing spark plugs.

 

[rockettauto]

So, in trying to correct accurate information you had to correct yourself.
There is a lot of knowledge here. Try adding water to your concrete before sending it down the chute.
Regardless, welcome to the board.

Water? you mean like out the toilet?

 

[rockettauto]

No, 15mm is .5906" 14mm is .5512" 9/16" is the closest Imperial size to 14mm and is 0.0113" bigger than 14mm but will still work fine for changing spark plugs.

Still, when you account for tolerances in the ANSI standard on nut sizes, they overlap. Then add on clearance that different socket manufacturers use and one brands 9/16 may be tighter on a 14mm than another brands 14mm.

 

[Madjik Man]

I have a whole box full of 16mm, well in truth I've got a full box of 14mm too, spark plug sockets. Why? Because that's how TOPTUL sells them. But that pretty pedestrian, What's cool is that I also have both in T-handle. Check these out.

14mm: https://www.toptul.com/en/product-325213/T-Handle-Magnetic-Spark-Plug-Socket.html
16mm: https://www.toptul.com/en/product-325214/T-Handle-Magnetic-Spark-Plug-Socket.html

What's amazing is how much torque you can apply with the T-handle. I often don't need a ratchet to remove plugs. They are even better at removing and installing the plugs post breaking them loose and pre-torqueing them. Obviously they work better on overhead camshaft engines with the plugs on top than they would on a SBC.

Oh no…here comes another purchase.

Is the shaft and socket all one piece?

Ive never successfully found where to buy Toptul in the US (I know they don’t target this market).

 

[Not So Legendary]

5/8 is 15.875mm.
(.6250 vs .6299)
They are not the same, but typically close enough for use on a fastener head.

Yes, im being THAT guy...

ASME b18.2.2 "Wrench Openings for square and hex nuts" says a wrench for a 5/8 bolt should be between 0.629 and 0.633. So 16mm is in the tolerance range if the socket is designed to this standard.

 

[JradM]

I think it was around $15. Mine was Neiko, I think, but pretty much identical. Locking extensions are probably more versatile, though.

Well that's way less than I expected. I figured that was some sort of Snap-on specialty socket and was going to be closer to $80-120, hence a locking extension made more sense. For $15 it's probably worth having one more spark plug removal weapon in the arsenal.

With often cramped engine bay space, many times I have to mix various sockets, expansions and swivels until I find just the right combo.

 

[dnschmidt]

Oh no…here comes another purchase.

Is the shaft and socket all one piece?

Ive never successfully found where to buy Toptul in the US (I know they don’t target this market).

No, the socket is on a ball swivel. (Look closely at the pictures.) I'll have to check my stock but if you talk to me really nice I MIGHT be willing to sell you one of each as I have a couple of each size 14mm and 16mm. I can tell you what I'd charge you for them which is $20@ plus whatever the USPS robs me for to ship them. The ridiculous price increases that the Post Office has pushed through is one of the reasons I got out of the TOPTUL business. Some of the stuff I was selling on EBay cost less than what it currently cost me to ship it which *****.

 

[Sumboodie]

No, 15mm is .5906" 14mm is .5512" 9/16" is the closest Imperial size to 14mm and is 0.0113" bigger than 14mm but will still work fine for changing spark plugs.

Way a typo. Big fingers and tiny keys.

 

[Madjik Man]

No, the socket is on a ball swivel. (Look closely at the pictures.) I'll have to check my stock but if you talk to me really nice I MIGHT be willing to sell you one of each as I have a couple of each size 14mm and 16mm. I can tell you what I'd charge you for them which is $20@ plus whatever the USPS robs me for to ship them. The ridiculous price increases that the Post Office has pushed through is one of the reasons I got out of the TOPTUL business. Some of the stuff I was selling on EBay cost less than what it currently cost me to ship it which *****.

Ah yes I see that ball swivel. Nice touch.

So what does nice talk mean to you? Flattery? Your posts are eloquent and your proper use of capitalization is much appreciated as a reader.

Hyperbolic compliments? You’re the greatest anonymous poster I’ve ever met.

But for real - if you’re fine with it I would like one 14mm and one 16mm and would be grateful.

Thank you.

 

[dchawk81]

Well, it would be nice. Does anybody benefit from knowing that you have two spark plug sockets? Typically, people come on this board to get an answer to a question, even extremely stupid ones. I have absolutely nothing against you Garcky but you seem to just throw random thoughts out there, which is fine, but I'm a question answering type of guy so you confuse me. What is it that you want to know? Do you wonder if other people have two spark plug sockets of the same size? (I bet many of the evil bastards on this board do.) And, if they do should they be shot at sunrise? It's clear that we have dramatically different personalities and variety is what makes the world go round but I don't understand many of your posts as I don't know what it is that you're asking. Once again, that's OK.

You could scroll past his threads.

 

[KnurledNut]

18mm is a fair bit smaller than 3/4".
19mm is .748"

Yep sure is. Wasn’t inferring they were equivalent. I was saying those two spark plug sizes hadn’t been mentioned yet.

 

[dnschmidt]

Ah yes I see that ball swivel. Nice touch.

So what does nice talk mean to you? Flattery? Your posts are eloquent and your proper use of capitalization is much appreciated as a reader.

Hyperbolic compliments? You’re the greatest anonymous poster I’ve ever met.

But for real - if you’re fine with it I would like one 14mm and one 16mm and would be grateful.

Thank you.

Yea, that was sufficient groveling. I'll PM you with the details on how to complete this transaction