Relocate doorbell

[v1ru5879]

Looking to add a video doorbell and the current location is going to hinder the field of view. How much of a pita is it gonna be to move it to the left side of the door?

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[Bert_]

Depends on how pretty you want it to be

 

[wyliesdiesels]

you could pull the exiting wires to the inside of the house, splice them, then run them up over the top of the door and then through a hole on the other side

 

[captaindiode]

If you can carefully remove the interior casing, ther should be room to hide the wires between the back of the jamb and the rough opening. I would do as suggested and go up and over.

 

[Dodge]

take the casing off and run the wire behind that to the other side and reinstall the casing

 

[jdm5]

Not an expert, but I’ve installed a couple Ring doorbells. They include a couple of angled pieces to “aim” it up/down and left/right. Might want to get whatever you’re looking at and see if it’s a problem before moving it.

 

[Dodge]

looks like captaindiode and i had the same idea at the same time!!

 

[PCustoms]

Don't know about the doorbell, but the off center peephole would drive me nuts....

 

[Kaizen]

Assuming the doorbell is WiFi enabled set it up first on both locations and see what you gain. The camera sees far but not well. Really only good on mine within ten feet.
Then if you feel the need take off the trim as instructed above


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[v1ru5879]

The door bell will obviously have a bigger field of view but I took pictures from both sides. As you can see the wall next to the current location blocks quite a bit. I know they have small wedges available to angle it a bit to one side so that's what the last picture is simulating. I was afraid I would need to remove trim to relocate, these things are never easy lol. Now I'm debating on just getting another nest cam instead of the doorbell since that will be a more hassle free install. If you look closely the previous owners must have had the ring doorbell with the battery on the left side

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[The Cobbler]

I added a doorbell to my circa 1950's house that never had one. pulled the inside casing off , drilled a hole in the outer-casing inwards, ran the wire ( between the door jamb & stud) drilled a hole at the bottom into the basement .
Not sure if the video ones need shielded cable or are they are wireless and just use a power feed?

 

[v1ru5879]

As far as I know it uses the same 2 wire setup as regular doorbells

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[wyliesdiesels]

I added a doorbell to my circa 1950's house that never had one. pulled the inside casing off , drilled a hole in the outer-casing inwards, ran the wire ( between the door jamb & stud) drilled a hole at the bottom into the basement .
Not sure if the video ones need shielded cable or are they are wireless and just use a power feed?

Theyre wireless. No need for shielded cable which would make no sense even if they were hardwired.

Only time you need shielded low voltage power wire is for burglar alarms and fire alarms.

 

[Kaizen]

The door bell will obviously have a bigger field of view but I took pictures from both sides. As you can see the wall next to the current location blocks quite a bit. I know they have small wedges available to angle it a bit to one side so that's what the last picture is simulating. I was afraid I would need to remove trim to relocate, these things are never easy lol. Now I'm debating on just getting another nest cam instead of the doorbell since that will be a more hassle free install. If you look closely the previous owners must have had the ring doorbell with the battery on the left side

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Ring doorbell back door. That black thing in upper left is light two feet above doorbell. Just an example. Way different then a normal lense



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[Innovate1]

Really doesn't look like you gain much view on the left of the view from the other side. Just a sliver past the post. Your pictures seem to have very limited field of view too. I would just go with where it is.

Pulling the trim is pretty easy compared to other things that might have to be done.

 

[Innovate1]

Only time you need shielded low voltage power wire is for burglar alarms and fire alarms.

These aren't normally shielded, at least for residential. They have a jacket rather than two loose strands (loose strands is typical for doorbells) but not shielded. Shielded means a conductive tube of some sort around the wires for electromagnetic field interference reduction. A non conducting jacket is not a shield.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

These aren't normally shielded, at least for residential. They have a jacket rather than two loose strands (loose strands is typical for doorbells) but not shielded. Shielded means a conductive tube of some sort around the wires for electromagnetic field interference reduction. A non conducting jacket is not a shield.

Huh? Your reply makes no sense and I know what shielded wire is.

I was responding to someone else who asked if shielded wire was needed for a ring doorbell.

 

[Innovate1]

Huh? Your reply makes no sense and I know what shielded wire is.

I was responding to someone else who asked if shielded wire was needed for a ring doorbell.

You said:

Only time you need shielded low voltage power wire is for burglar alarms and fire alarms.

Many burglar and fire alarms also don't require shielded cable - that's why I thought you might be referring to a cable jacket. I was describing what I usually see for security and fire alarm cable.

 

[v1ru5879]

Really doesn't look like you gain much view on the left of the view from the other side. Just a sliver past the post. Your pictures seem to have very limited field of view too. I would just go with where it is.

Pulling the trim is pretty easy compared to other things that might have to be done.

These were pictures taken with my phone, the doorbell has a much wider field of view

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[ddawg16]

The ring has a battery and depending on how you set it up, you can get a month or more between recharges.

Just please....please don't use the default ring tone.....I HATE that tune.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

You said:

Many burglar and fire alarms also don't require shielded cable - that's why I thought you might be referring to a cable jacket. I was describing what I usually see for security and fire alarm cable.

maybe the ones in your area dont but ive done quite a few and they all did...

 

[v1ru5879]

So I have plenty of attic space to walk up n drop a wire, just wondering if it's worth it to try and fish one of those small wires thought the insulation and out the stucco. I'm also considering stapling one around the trim.

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[Innovate1]

So I have plenty of attic space to walk up n drop a wire, just wondering if it's worth it to try and fish one of those small wires thought the insulation and out the stucco. I'm also considering stapling one around the trim.

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They make super long drill bits - something like 48" to drill up from the door frame into the attic. The also have a small hole in the end to tie the wire to so you can pull it back through. Best to push them through the insulation without turning so they don't chew up any wires in the wall. And make sure there aren't wires above the wall where it will come out.

 

[rsanter]

If you can carefully remove the interior casing, ther should be room to hide the wires between the back of the jamb and the rough opening. I would do as suggested and go up and over.

This is how I would do,it

On the other hand, the video doorbell will come with an angled bracket so you can tilt it to the center which should mostly correct the field of view issue I see,

If you want it on the other side so you can see more to the street or driveway, that's another issue

 

[v1ru5879]

I'm just really worried the angled bracket won't be enough to give a good view since the wall is so close to the current location

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[Innovate1]

In post #10 the first picture shows the view cut off by the wall and only being able to see about half of the post at the edge of the roof on the left side. The second picture only shows about a foot past the post on the left. I initially thought that was limited by the wall but don't see the wall in the picture. If you post a pic from the right side (desired camera location) that includes the corner of the wall we could see how much more view is possible. It won't show the right side view but that's not the issue - you could take another picture angled to the right for that. That's why I said earlier that the view wasn't that much more from the other side of the door but I see now it may be much more.

 

[v1ru5879]

Here is a shot from what I would say is the ideal location for the doorbell. Taken with my phone not the doorbell. Haven't purchased it just yet till I get the wiring situation figured out cam

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[ddawg16]

Here is a shot from what I would say is the ideal location for the doorbell. Taken with my phone not the doorbell. Haven't purchased it just yet till I get the wiring situation figured out cam

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Then put it there.

You can depend on the battery.....or, go through the effort of dropping a wire to that location.

Me? I'd move it there....use the battery feature.....then after a few 'recharge' cycles decide it if it's worth my time to fish a wire to it.

BTW....Nice looking porch.

 

[v1ru5879]

I wish the nest hello was that easy to use either or, if it was the ring doorbell I was looking at that would be different but this one is only hardwired or you can buy the ac adapter

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[Innovate1]

Here is a shot from what I would say is the ideal location for the doorbell. Taken with my phone not the doorbell. Haven't purchased it just yet till I get the wiring situation figured out cam

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Now I see why you want to move it.