Rest In Peace Dewalt Flexvolt.

[Farmall450]

Meh.

So, because Milwaukee's finally taking a baby step in playing catchup to the Flexvolt platform it's all over for Dewalt. Yawn

Better luck next year.

Generally how these posts go

 

[AceofSpad3s]

Gas powered OPE has merit with regular use, but for a homeowner it's hard to justify the maintenance. Let's just say you value your time at $50/hr. A gas powered weedeater or chainsaw can end up costing thousands of dollars over its lifespan in maintenance and repairs for less than 10 hours of use per year. Meanwhile a well designed cordless tool can last decades if kept dry with virtually no maintenance.

I don't really see that number being realistic. I don't have 2 stroke stuff but the most I ever had to do to my gas snow blower and mower was put in a new plug and replace a cable and both are probably 10 years old. We had a gas blower that **** the bed a years ago but back then I wasn't really into fixing everything so I bet I could've fixed that. Just run it dry before putting it away for the season and it's okay.
I think putting a dollar figure on time is silly, should I just throw out my ratchets and buy a new one because it took me 20 minutes to open it up, clean it and service it and it might have cost more than it cost if I value my time at $50 an hour?
If people valued their time that much I don't think any diy people would be here and they'd just hire someone to do things.

If you enjoy doing something then I don't consider it a monetary lose for spending an hour doing something.

 

[firworks]

Off topic kinda, but where in Milwaukee is the factory and do they give tours?

lolol, Guangdong Province I believe. Just make a turn East on Connor St and stay that direction for 10000 miles. Gonna need a hell of a duckboat though.

FWIW Milwaukee is supposedly in the next few years bringing back ~600 jobs to a trio of plants in Mississippi manufacturing/assembling? "cordless power tools and accessories" and another ~500 jobs at their HQ in Wisconsin IIRC.

I suspect they are wanting to mimic Dewalt to be able to put some 'Made in the USA from global materials' badges on some of their products also. That has to be the number one complaint they get these days when piles of their best products are sitting in The Borgs right next to piles of Dewalt boxes of a similar lineup of tools but with US flags all over them

Their headquarters and engineering facility is in Brookfield Wisconsin. Don't know if they offer tours but here's a local news station poking around in there just a bit.
http://fox6now.com/2015/05/21/sneak...the-corporate-headquarters-of-milwaukee-tool/

 

[kctyphoon]

I heard a rumor dewalts coming out with another 20v drill.. ya know - simialr to the 10 different models they already sell alongside each other. I heard they were waiting to see what Milwaukee's looked like first, so they could copy that too.. Milwaukee discontines models after 3 years - Dewalt is still selling the same 18v drills they sold 12 years ago - and calling it support.. lol

 

[American Locomotive]

Milwaukee doesn’t make their own drill chucks, just like most other drill manufacturers.

Most of the keyless drill chucks, and possibly the keyed drill chucks as well, used on Milwaukee drills are manufactured by Yukiwa Seiko. Yukiwa has been supplying Milwaukee with drill chucks since at least the first all metal keyless drill chucks Milwaukee supplied on their drills. I’m not sure, but this might go back to the 1980s or early 1990s.

Almost every new Milwaukee drill I've seen uses a chinese "Jacobs" chuck made by Apex. They also switched to a nonstandard shaft.

High end DeWalts come with Rohm chucks.

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

Only if there was some sort of combustible fluid that we could use to easily power tools that require large amounts of power like chainsaws but are too far away to be used with an electrical cord

I made the mistake of buying a gas powered chainsaw last year. Would have been a hell of a lot better off buying a battery powered one. Gas equipment simply doesn't make sense for many residential users. I've replaced most of my other yard equipment with battery powered and it works much better.

 

[kctyphoon]

I have a gas saw home that hasn't been used in 6 years.. wonder how quickly it'll start lol

 

[sk farmer]

milwaukee? isn't that one of those american sounding names that mfg. uses to make you think it is american made or patriotic sounding? kinda like the hf thing.......

and now for my real thoughts. i wonder why the op feels this constant need to bash dewalt? i mean really, a grown man that thinks it is funny or gets some sort of kick out making comments like he does so frequently. maybe it makes him feel important. if you like milwaukee, great. i don't have any issue with it and i doubt anyone else does either. it reminds me of hf beats (insert brand here). tiring.......

 

[bobcatdan]

Milwaukee pissed me off years ago with **** batteries all under warranty and a $10 credit towards new ones. **** them. Only thing I but from them is sawzall blades for my metabo saw. Dewalt 20v system is so far proving great.

 

[AceofSpad3s]

I made the mistake of buying a gas powered chainsaw last year. Would have been a hell of a lot better off buying a battery powered one. Gas equipment simply doesn't make sense for many residential users. I've replaced most of my other yard equipment with battery powered and it works much better.

I look at it from a more long term perspective that a gas tool is more likely to hold up better 10,15,20 years from now than a electric tool, more importantly outlast the batteries.
If you are already invested in a higher end cordless line then I can see the benefits, but I have a ryobi impact,drill and power caulk gun for cordless and prefer to just run a cord out for any real work with saws or drills.

The chainsaw isn't even that bad in my eyes compared to that cordless lawnmower.

 

[timbitca]

basically the same experience for me....Echo hedge trimmer, Craftsman line trimmer, Tanaka blower, Echo blower, Mantis tiller.....all have been very reliable by simply draining the fuel at season's end, for many years. The Craftsman trimmer in particular has been amazing...that thing is going on 26 yrs with literally no maintenance, other than strings of course. Maybe an air filter but no spark plug...lol.

i can use them for hours on end, no hassle and no power shortage.

Just to add to this from my previous post... I gave my old chainsaw a couple more cranks before tearing into it and the darn thing started. Smoking a little but it works! It's a 1989 that hasn't run regularly in the last 6-7 years since my Grandpa died.

I have a gas saw home that hasn't been used in 6 years.. wonder how quickly it'll start lol

If you only have a use for a chainsaw once every 6 years than you probably don't need to own one at all

 

[davethorik]

and now for my real thoughts. i wonder why the op feels this constant need to bash dewalt? i mean really, a grown man that thinks it is funny or gets some sort of kick out making comments like he does so frequently. maybe it makes him feel important. if you like milwaukee, great. i don't have any issue with it and i doubt anyone else does either. it reminds me of hf beats (insert brand here). tiring.......

Not just the OP but I swear there are some folk getting paid to post here.

 

[kctyphoon]

milwaukee? isn't that one of those american sounding names that mfg. uses to make you think it is american made or patriotic sounding? kinda like the hf thing.......

and now for my real thoughts. i wonder why the op feels this constant need to bash dewalt? i mean really, a grown man that thinks it is funny or gets some sort of kick out making comments like he does so frequently. maybe it makes him feel important. if you like milwaukee, great. i don't have any issue with it and i doubt anyone else does either. it reminds me of hf beats (insert brand here). tiring.......

Milwaukee employs 4,000 people in the USA, and recently announced the expansion of their headquarters and the creation of a few hundred more jobs in the states as a result of their success. What people like you fail to realize that buying their products does support jobs HERE - exactly what you wanted. Same deal with HF - and if the haters ever actually walked in a store and looked - they'd find a lot of made in USA products on the shelves - right down to the HF branded thread lock..

Why do I post this - cause yes, I do think it's funny to see people get triggered so easily, and any person with a shred of common sense can tell it was posted in good fun. If this is so "immature" in your eyes, I suggest removing the stick from your rear.. Milwaukee makes a good light for that I'm sure..

 

[kctyphoon]

Just to add to this from my previous post... I gave my old chainsaw a couple more cranks before tearing into it and the darn thing started. Smoking a little but it works! It's a 1989 that hasn't run regularly in the last 6-7 years since my Grandpa died.



If you only have a use for a chainsaw once every 6 years than you probably don't need to own one at all

Well at Home I use to cut my own fire wood for the house - now I just pay someone to do that for me if I need any. at work - I've probably made a few thousands cuts into utility poles, and I don't get paid to use my own tools. So if I get the cordless, it'll be on some else's dime.. electric saws are much better to use over gas in a bucket truck for utility work - safer too.. cordless eliminates the constant repair of cords too.

 

[kctyphoon]

I look at it from a more long term perspective that a gas tool is more likely to hold up better 10,15,20 years from now than a electric tool, more importantly outlast the batteries.
If you are already invested in a higher end cordless line then I can see the benefits, but I have a ryobi impact,drill and power caulk gun for cordless and prefer to just run a cord out for any real work with saws or drills.

The chainsaw isn't even that bad in my eyes compared to that cordless lawnmower.

If you had Milwaukee, you wouldn't need a cord.. all my power tools at work are cordless. Including the impact used to drill into utility poles, and even the rotary hammers.. there is no longer a need for a cord unless you have the type of job where you literally spend hours drilling holes.. I've done that before professionally, and as much as of an advocate I am for cordless, in hat situation it simply doesn't make sense and is not practical..

 

[AceofSpad3s]

If you had Milwaukee, you wouldn't need a cord.. all my power tools at work are cordless. Including the impact used to drill into utility poles, and even the rotary hammers.. there is no longer a need for a cord unless you have the type of job where you literally spend hours drilling holes.. I've done that before professionally, and as much as of an advocate I am for cordless, in hat situation it simply doesn't make sense and is not practical..

I'm perfectly happy with my several $5 dewalt corded drills, the $10 20 year old usa made Milwaukee side winder (though I need to get a new shoe adjustment lever), my $20 usa made milwaukee sawzall and $100 hitachi miter, my makita orbiting sander, my $15 new ryobi belt sander and my various other corded tools.

It's not practical for me to spend a $1000 on cordless stuff when I can just run a cord out for usage of my cheap corded stuff.

 

[kctyphoon]

People buy things for different reasons. I, personally, dont buy with the idea of saving money in mind. I buy cause I like their stuff, it falls within the medium price point vs other options, and they make my life easier when I do need them. It doesn't hurt that they are CONSTANTLY introducing new tools and upgrading old models.

That's part of Milwaukee's strategy now. Instead of waiting 6 years for a model upgrade, now 3 years is more common, and sometimes less.. it seems to be working VERY well for them, and every m18 tool still works will every m18 battery.

 

[AceofSpad3s]

If you buy it because you want it than that is a fair enough reason. With power tools I focus more on what gives me the best combination of performance and service life for the lowest investment since I have too many things that I'd like to burn money on.

 

[finn]

People buy things for different reasons. I, personally, dont buy with the idea of saving money in mind. I buy cause I like their stuff, it falls within the medium price point vs other options, and they make my life easier when I do need them. It doesn't hurt that they are CONSTANTLY introducing new tools and upgrading old models.

That's part of Milwaukee's strategy now. Instead of waiting 6 years for a model upgrade, now 3 years is more common, and sometimes less.. it seems to be working VERY well for them, and every m18 tool still works will every m18 battery.

We used to call that planned obsolescence.

General Motors was among the first to develop the concept in the twenties.

Change the style and make the consumers believe they can’t live without having the latest model because everyone else has it.

Good way to stoke market demand, I guess.

 

[ItsNemo]

I'm perfectly happy with my several $5 dewalt corded drills, the $10 20 year old usa made Milwaukee side winder (though I need to get a new shoe adjustment lever), my $20 usa made milwaukee sawzall and $100 hitachi miter, my makita orbiting sander, my $15 new ryobi belt sander and my various other corded tools.

It's not practical for me to spend a $1000 on cordless stuff when I can just run a cord out for usage of my cheap corded stuff.

Convenience...I can grab a cordless drill, do a hole, and put it away by the time you've grabbed an extension cord and plugged it in. Long term usage the corded drill is better though. There's a place for both.

I heard a rumor dewalts coming out with another 20v drill.. ya know - simialr to the 10 different models they already sell alongside each other. I heard they were waiting to see what Milwaukee's looked like first, so they could copy that too.. Milwaukee discontines models after 3 years - Dewalt is still selling the same 18v drills they sold 12 years ago - and calling it support.. lol

Milwaukee sells a half dozen different M18 drills too. It IS support and nice that you can still go get a replacement drill after 10+ years. They also sell the 18v batteries still too, so people with good tools can keep using their old stuff for years to come.

Talk about a fan boy trying to get a rise out of people though, they're both quality brands who make good tools...each one has certain tools that are objectively better than the other brand but neither is perfect by any means.

 

[WWheeler]

[...] Talk about a fan boy trying to get a rise out of people though, they're both quality brands who make good tools...each one has certain tools that are objectively better than the other brand but neither is perfect by any means.

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner!

 

[AceofSpad3s]

Convenience...I can grab a cordless drill, do a hole, and put it away by the time you've grabbed an extension cord and plugged it in. Long term usage the corded drill is better though. There's a place for both.

Cordless drills and impacts are nice and that is what I use most of the time for holes and screws, wasn't meaning I ONLY use corded stuff.

 

[kctyphoon]

I don't think it's so much of "have to have it" for Milwaukee.. companies quickly try to catch up when someone else comes out with a game changing tool.. like it or not - Milwaukee is the REASON so many store brands have good cordless impact wrenches now. They are also the REASON there's such a large market in cordless lighting options.. I think all Milwaukee is doing is making sure they always have a competitive option available.. for someone looking to invest in their first, or upgrade a 15 year old system - they are gonna look to see what the best options are "right now". Kinda hard to lure new customers in, and away from other brands they may have been loyal to, when most of your core tools are outdated already and there may be similar or better options available for the same or even less money.. if your drill is 6 years old - and everyone else has moved on to bigger and better - it's hard to justify going with that outdated option..

That's the entire reason many people like myself moved away from Dewalt. Milwaukee had MUCH better options, and many more options.. why stay with Dewalt when I wanted to upgrade, if they are already behind in the times, and I'm looking for another system to get me through the next 15 years..

 

[ItsNemo]

Cordless drills and impacts are nice and that is what I use most of the time for holes and screws, wasn't meaning I ONLY use corded stuff.

Cool Just sayin'

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner!

I don't think it's so much of "have to have it" for Milwaukee.. companies quickly try to catch up when someone else comes out with a game changing tool.. I think all Milwaukee is doing is making sure they always have a competitive option available.. for someone looking to invest in their first, or upgrade a 15 year old system - they are gonna look to see what the best options are "right now". Kinda hard to lure new customers in away from other brands they may have been loyal to when most of your core tools are outdated already and their may be similar or better options available for the same or even less money.. if your drill is 6 years old - and everyone else has moved on to bigger and better - it's hard to justify going with that outdated option..

That's the entire reason many people like myself moved away from Dewalt. Milwaukee had MUCH better options, and many more options.. why stay with Dewalt when I wanted to upgrade, if they are already behind in the times, and I'm looking for another system to get me through the next 15 years..

Both brands are competitive with each other, I would not say either is that "MUCH" better than the other. Milwaukee currently has better impacts/drills. Dewalt currently has better saws. However 10% more performance one way or another is nothing to write home about. The small performance difference isn't enough to sway me one way or another (or bash the other brand like you're doing) instead price, availability, support, personal ergonomics, etc. play into my decisions more.

 

[WWheeler]

Heh, must be regional. Where I live there's not much in the Borgs (Home Depot, Lowes) from Milwaukee. They each carry a few Milwaukee tools on the aisle along with all the others, but Dewalt and what I assume is whichever's store brand (Kobalt or Rigid or Ryobi or whatnot) are the only ones with their own end-of-aisle displays. Don't see a lot of Milwaukee on jobsites around here either. See a whole hell of a lot of Dewalt though.

Edit: Also the pricing is weird on the few Milwaukee tools here. Everything red is easily 25% higher on the shelf than I can buy the same tool for almost anywhere online, but the best deals I've found for Dewalt have been on the shelf in stores. Dewalt is almost always for sale around here for less than even the 'click to see price in cart' prices on Amazon and the like.

 

[kctyphoon]

Convenience...I can grab a cordless drill, do a hole, and put it away by the time you've grabbed an extension cord and plugged it in. Long term usage the corded drill is better though. There's a place for both.



Milwaukee sells a half dozen different M18 drills too. It IS support and nice that you can still go get a replacement drill after 10+ years. They also sell the 18v batteries still too, so people with good tools can keep using their old stuff for years to come.

Talk about a fan boy trying to get a rise out of people though, they're both quality brands who make good tools...each one has certain tools that are objectively better than the other brand but neither is perfect by any means.

You walk into any store, and show me a section filled with NICAD Milwaukee tools, and tools sets for sale - and I will pay your mortgage. Dewalt's cheap nicad stuff is competing with consumer grade Lithium tools to unknowledgeable customers that don't realize what they are buying are 20 year old tool designs, with the worst battery cell technology - and selling kits on price point and brand recognition alone.. those people would be much better off buying Lithium Ryobi, but are just too uninformed to know it.. customers fault for just blindly buying stuff without some research I suppose - and the old stuff still works - but Lithium batteries alone are WORTH going with a different platform over a nicad one.

That isn't just "support"..

As far as pro use brand choice - I can't walk into a jobsite without seeing red everywhere.

 

[kctyphoon]

Cool Just sayin'







Both brands are competitive with each other, I would not say either is that "MUCH" better than the other. Milwaukee currently has better impacts/drills. Dewalt currently has better saws. However 10% more performance one way or another is nothing to write home about. The small performance difference isn't enough to sway me one way or another (or bash the other brand like you're doing) instead price, availability, support, personal ergonomics, etc. play into my decisions more.

So, you feel comfortable stating that Dewalt's and Milwaukee's 12v platforms are "competitive" with each other.. lol. Are there many mechanics sporting 12v Dewalt stuff these days?

 

[ItsNemo]

You walk into any store, and show me a section filled with NICAD Milwaukee tools, and tools sets for sale - and I will pay your mortgage. Dewalt's cheap nicad stuff is competing with consumer grade Lithium tools to unknowledgeable customers that don't realize what they are buying are 20 year old tool designs, with the worst battery cell technology - and selling kits on price point and brand recognition alone.. those people would be much better off buying Lithium Ryobi, but are just too uninformed to know it.. customers fault for just blindly buying stuff without some research I suppose - and the old stuff still works - but Lithium batteries alone are WORTH going with a different platform over a nicad one.

That isn't just "support"..

As far as pro use brand choice - I can't walk into a jobsite without seeing red everywhere.

Can't walk onto a job site here without seeing yellow everywhere.

An uninformed customer buying the wrong tool is not the fault of Dewalt for selling, it's just another option out there. There are a lot of brands of cordless tools out there that nobody should be buying...like ingersoll rand or snap on stuff doesn't make a lick of sense at the price points they're selling at, and yet people buy them and they're still top tier brands in their respective areas.

So, you feel comfortable stating that Dewalt's and Milwaukee's 12v platforms are "competitive" with each other.. lol. Are there many mechanics sporting 12v Dewalt stuff these days?

Dewalt's 12v line is lacking variety but the tools in it are pretty good. Milwaukee's 12v line is currently better overall than Dewalt though yes. Per my criteria though, I could go to any of a dozen stores instead of 2 or 3 and pick up a Dewalt 12v drill for cheaper than the Milwaukee and I've felt both and the Dewalt's are better balanced (less top heavy) and feel more comfortable in my hands.

 

[ItsNemo]

So just for fun, checked to see what I could actually go buy to validate my claims...Dewalt 12v drill kit vs Milwaukee M12 drill kit, both non-brushless just standard kit with 2 batts and charger. I can't find a single major local retailer that stocks the Milwaukee drill here but all the major retailers (cdn tire, home depot, lowes, etc) have the Dewalt. Online there are a couple retailers that have the Milwaukee kit (jccayer, blackrocktools), they also have the Dewalt kit and a few more online retailers have the Dewalt (amazon). The Dewalt kit is currently $109.99, the Milwaukee kit is $179.99 (Canadian prices).

Performance between the two is actually quite close looking at specs too. So if I were going out tomorrow to buy one, I'd be coming home with the Dewalt. If I were going out to buy a 12v cordless ratchet, I'd be buying the Milwaukee though because they actually have one. Go figure eh?

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

I look at it from a more long term perspective that a gas tool is more likely to hold up better 10,15,20 years from now than a electric tool, more importantly outlast the batteries.
If you are already invested in a higher end cordless line then I can see the benefits, but I have a ryobi impact,drill and power caulk gun for cordless and prefer to just run a cord out for any real work with saws or drills.

The chainsaw isn't even that bad in my eyes compared to that cordless lawnmower.

I gave my girlfriend my 23 year old DeWalt cordless drill along with a pair of brand new batteries last year. My oldest gas powered equipment is about the same age and has needed more money spent on maintenance and repairs than it did to buy the new batteries.
Obviously, there is a lot to be considered, and in my case, going cordless is absolutely the better option. I have a bunch of DeWalt 18/20V stuff, a bunch of batteries, and since I wait for great deals, I can spend less than equivalent gas powered options for things like my string trimmer or a chainsaw. Cordless tools last a very long time, and even after the OEM stops making packs, they are still widely available aftermarket or rebuilt.

Not sure about the lawnmower, I trashed my gas powered lawn mower years ago and let someone else deal with the lawn cutting nonsense.

 

[kctyphoon]

This is probably just my own prejudice, but I'd have to watch some SERIOUS amounts of videos online before I'd consider getting rid of a gas mower.. the cordless blower I have is just for supplement to "make life easier" when I just need a blower - cause I'd never get rid of my gas blower and give up the mulching bagging vacuum function. I'd love the day when I'd no longer have to buy gas though.. I think I have 3 gas cans JUST holding old fuel ive removed from stuff - cause I won't use it and I'm not driving an hour to get rid of it either.. not everything needs a gas engine - but a mower - I'm just not sure about. YET..

 

[sk farmer]

Milwaukee employs 4,000 people in the USA, and recently announced the expansion of their headquarters and the creation of a few hundred more jobs in the states as a result of their success. What people like you fail to realize that buying their products does support jobs HERE - exactly what you wanted. Same deal with HF - and if the haters ever actually walked in a store and looked - they'd find a lot of made in USA products on the shelves - right down to the HF branded thread lock..

Why do I post this - cause yes, I do think it's funny to see people get triggered so easily, and any person with a shred of common sense can tell it was posted in good fun. If this is so "immature" in your eyes, I suggest removing the stick from your rear.. Milwaukee makes a good light for that I'm sure..

really? did i say they didn't employ people?

people like me? what kind of person are you implying that i am?

hf hater? did i i say i hated harbor freight?

us made stuff on the shelf at hf? we all know it is there but i think your are dreaming if you think it is a significant portion of their sales.

remove the stick from my rear? what stick is this? someone may have a stick up their's but it isn't me.


hey mods, isn't there something about not insulting other members and don't you get a time out for that?


i wonder if milwaukee makes a troll light?

 

[Farmall450]

We get it, you like Milwaukee. To each his own. At this point people will buy what they're invested in.

 

[seanb02]

We get it, you like Milwaukee. To each his own. At this point people will buy what they're invested in.

Exactly. I'm invested in DeWalt 20v. Sure Milwaukee makes excellent products as well. I can completely appreciate that. At this point, there is nothing over there that I am missing out on with my current line. I don't see the need to go pushing a product line and bashing others when they are both head to head. Unless just being a troll, or perhaps somehow tied into advertising and sales, or some other reason that makes you sleep at night feeling great about who knows what.

 

[kctyphoon]

really? did i say they didn't employ people?

people like me? what kind of person are you implying that i am?

hf hater? did i i say i hated harbor freight?

us made stuff on the shelf at hf? we all know it is there but i think your are dreaming if you think it is a significant portion of their sales.

remove the stick from my rear? what stick is this? someone may have a stick up their's but it isn't me.


hey mods, isn't there something about not insulting other members and don't you get a time out for that?


i wonder if milwaukee makes a troll light?

Lmfao... yes, usb powered troll stick installing light was just announced at NPS 2018.. might work for removing sticks too.. I'll post a link for ya..

 

[bob15]

So, you feel comfortable stating that Dewalt's and Milwaukee's 12v platforms are "competitive" with each other.. lol. Are there many mechanics sporting 12v Dewalt stuff these days?

Who cares what mechanics use? Should we all be basing our tool selection (hand and power) on what the local grease monkey uses?

By your logic it would be Snap On then.......

 

[American Locomotive]

Talk about a fan boy trying to get a rise out of people though, they're both quality brands who make good tools...each one has certain tools that are objectively better than the other brand but neither is perfect by any means.

Seems like a classic case of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

 

[Ign]

Off topic kinda, but where in Milwaukee is the factory and do they give tours?

For cutting tools, yes - although you might have to be media (dunno, don't care)
http://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-hole-dozer-hole-saws-are-made/

 

[PNWguy]

Only if there was some sort of combustible fluid that we could use to easily power tools that require large amounts of power like chainsaws but are too far away to be used with an electrical cord

I love my 2-stroke sawzall and impact gun!

 

[Ign]

Convenience...I can grab a cordless drill, do a hole, and put it away by the time you've grabbed an extension cord and plugged it in. Long term usage the corded drill is better though. There's a place for both.
.

Same is true for chainsaws. For quick limbing my Ryobi 40V is just awesome. No starting, idling, etc. Pull trigger, go. Let off trigger, put it away.

Imagine if we had gas powered drills. Wanna drill a quick hole? Choke it, pull start, let it idle, shut it down.....oh **** forgot about that hole over there.... start it up.again.

And before anyone suggests a sawzall, I do WAY more than limbing w my Ryobi 40V chainsaw on my 35 acres. I have two Stihls but the battery power is just so damn convenient.

Arborist or landscaper in an urban areas? Battery is WAY WAY quieter. Point that out and your clients will appreciate you for it.

Also never understood why corded drills have never been readily available with 2 speed gearboxes like cordless. Most don't have enough torque at low speeds and/or poor trigger modulation