Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop

[ToyMeKaNeK]

The highlight of my day is to check my email and see if I have been notified of someone posting here. I work a job that at times is stressfull but I can take a break and come here to get my mind off of it for a few minutes.

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[markviii]

I'm glad we can help, willy3486. A stress reliever! An oasis (in addition to Center of the Universe and vortex)- that's what our property has become. Not that we have much stress, but that's what it is to us as well.

Chris

 

[BB767]

I'm a little "old school" so Mr Johnson's shop as you may recall has a 400 disc CD changer that drives the ceiling speakers in that sound system This is what I came up with for the barn's sound system.

Originally I was going to replicate the old shop's system with another 400 CD disc changer but my Darling Daughter- "DD" - kindly brought me into the 21st century with an...

...ipod. Shown here in a docking station so its plugged into a wall outlet and I'm not using the battery while it's in the barn, but it is portable as we'll see in a minute. I'd heard of ipods before but didn't really know what they were. For those of you who were like me and don't know, it's a device that can store and display or play among other things, music on its hard drive. As we all know my roughly 3,000 or so LP vinyl records are near and dear to my heart, so I record them to my computer's hard drive and either burn them to CD's or import them to my shiny new ipod. This is all accomplished by.............magic! I have absolutely no earthly idea how it all works, only the steps necessary to make it happen. The ipod at present has about 1,600 songs on it and I keep adding to it as I record more LP's. I can go days if not weeks without hearing the same song twice. Now to those out there who are "new school" this might seem like old news, but to me it was a revelation, honest.

So the ipod inputs to the receiver and on top of that is a switching panel...

... that funnels the music...

...into...

...6 ceiling speakers...

...here you can see 4 of them, the other two are behind me. I don't like to see wires so all of them are hidden in the attic and walls. The sound is very even anywhere in the barn which is why I used 6 instead of 4 speakers. Now I can have uninterrupted vintage music just like the other shop.

One more little trick about the ipod that is very, very important. Darling Daughter also brought to my attention that the ipod can also be used in some of my vintage or newer cars if they have a FM radio installed.

What we see here is a tiny FM transmitter that plugs into....

...the bottom of the ipod. Show here transmitting on 89.6 MHZ for example, but is completely tunable so it can transmit to any FM frequency. It's transmission range is only 6'-8' (1.8-2.4 meters) or so, just enough to reach the car radio. So now when I'm cruising in my '64 Impala or '66 Lincoln Continental, I can have my own tunes play on the car radio without having to wire in a system of any sort. It's a wireless system at it's best. Some of this new "stuff" is all right!

Thomas

 

[Scuderia-F1]

Hi Thomas!

I´m also just introduced to the "great world of iPod", & I really like the possibilities of this technique.

So my question is if you´re now considering sometime in the future to update your soundsystem in the shop for iPod too?

Now for that handy FM transmitter, I really think that I will have to get me one of those.

Now I can´t wait for sam pics of the progress with the Walker!

Regards,

Anders

 

[MetalMangler]

One of the best things that I like about IPods and their more generic brothers and sisters is the ability to take information with me. Like Thomas I have a large musical collection on my IPod, however I find myself using it mostly for what Zig Zigler coined "The Automobile University". I subscribe to informative podcasts, as well as putting books on Tape/CD onto it, and listening to them whenever I have the time. I don't know if Thomas is allowed to use something like that in the cockpit, but I'm sure there's plenty of other times that he could find to use it. After all, it doesn't appear that he sleeps.

MM

 

[Warg]

Now for that handy FM transmitter, I really think that I will have to get me one of those.

Yep, they're handy. But technically they're not legal in Sweden. Anything that transmits a radio frequency signal outside the "free frequency" ranges requires a permit. No matter how short the transmission distance is.

-Paul (licensed to rain on parades)

 

[Scuderia-F1]

Yep, they're handy. But technically they're not legal in Sweden. Anything that transmits a radio frequency signal outside the "free frequency" ranges requires a permit. No matter how short the transmission distance is.

-Paul (licensed to rain on parades)

I thought they changed that to make these gadgets legal?

 

[Warg]

I thought they changed that to make these gadgets legal?

I know there was some talk about it but I haven't heard that there was an actual change of the regulation. Albeit the chance of getting caught is slim to none...

 

[DEnd]

DEnd, both my darling daughter and son have offered to help out with a set up as you suggested. Fairly simple custom programing for them and you maybe, but if they're not around as for Chris and myself.........not so much.

Thanks for the suggestion. We'll give it more thought.

Thomas

Just did some more searching and this might be something like you'd want.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009NWEWA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[markviii]

Thanks, DEnd. That looks more like what I was looking for. That helps narrow my search (and maximizes my time).

Chris

 

[kbeitz]

I should think Elroy may find this of interest among others. The was one lift modification that was done which I left in place while I was restoring that lift.

This is the unmodified left side lift ramp, while opposite it, on the other side....

...you'll see some tabs welded beneath the right lift ramp.

They all have holes in them...

....and for what purpose I have no idea.

They were clearly "field modifications" and not of Rotary Lift origin. At the time my son and I were prepping the lift for paint I was sorely tempted to remove them, but decided to leave them in place. Whatever they once were used for is now lost unless someone here has seen something like this before? At the time I had almost no experience with this lift so I was hesitant to remove them. I didn't want to find out later why they were put there and then have to reinstall them. As you know I repaired the holes in the Walker floor jack saddle but these I left, for better or worse. They don't get in the way so it hasn't presented a problem.

Anyone think of what use they might have had??

Thomas

Ladder attachment... Steel ladder with wheels that lets it follow the floor when moveing up or down...

 

[BB767]

Ladder attachment... Steel ladder with wheels that lets it follow the floor when moveing up or down...

Hello there kbeitz. While that's a possibility, there were no marks on the floor left by any wheels....

...I don't know if it would be used enough to warrant it being permanently attached.

When the lift is at full extension you wouldn't need a ladder underneath it...

I would think it might be constantly in the way...

It's nice having nothing over there to trip over.

BTW, all of the above photographs are with the lift at 1/2 extension.

Thanks for the input. I've got two more sons to ask who might know but sad to say, this modification might be lost to history.

Thomas

 

[Bib Overalls]

May have been used to attach chains so that items could be lifted. Although the gusset suggests a lateral load.

 

[buick64203]

Wouldnt the brackets be for the fold down legs for wheel alignment purposes? The legs would fold down and the lift would be lowered down on them

 

[BB767]

Great thread, took me almost three days to get through all 121 pages of your masterpiece.

Those of us blessed with understanding and supportive wives really are lucky sob's!.....

....That same grandfather also had a walker floor jack ( of which I had no idea the significance until I saw this thread btw). That jack ( identical to yours with the stamped upper cover ) now proudly resides in the big garage and when it gets used on the continental, there is a feeling that all is as it should be.

As for that pesky switch plate, frame a picture of it and that piston and call it a long lost Dali work!

Hats off to you and especially Chris. Without women like her the world would be no place at all.

Lincolncrusier95, may I add my welcome here to both you and your talented wife. You are so right about us being lucky sob's. Chris has been my rock through out this whole program/ordeal/adventure/journey however you want to characterize it. She has never had the slightest negative thing to say about the whole project. Don't think I could have done it without that steadfast support. It's certainly given me more joy being able to share it with her.

Good catch on the Walker and I'll bet grandfather is or would be happy to know it's being given such reverent care. I'm starting to wonder now how many old Walkers have been spared an ignoble end because of various posts on Garage Journal?

As for the switch plate, it is starting to take on a life of it's own. Oh I still look at it from time to time, but I really find myself at peace with it. I've developed a live and let live attitude. It's wants to crooked as all get out at I'm willing to let it be.

Perhaps I'll see you at the LCOC meet in Pontiac this summer? Chris will be there with her Mark and I'll be with the trusty '66 Coupe.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

....In the meantime, let me state that like most everyone else, I'm in awe of what you have done! As if the work that you've done to recover the shop in the first place, the work you've put into making a coherent, informative and enjoyable thread is as impressive.

MM

..... I don't know if Thomas is allowed to use something like that in the cockpit, but I'm sure there's plenty of other times that he could find to use it. After all, it doesn't appear that he sleeps.

MM

A late greetings to you MM. At times when I'm gone flying I can't get on here as timely as I'd like, but everyone seems to understand. As I mentioned early on, when I stared the whole project my daughter and I discussed what an interesting book this would be and did much of the documentation for it if I ever decided to do it. Turns out the Garage Journal Forum serves that purpose. I wanted to share the experience which has truly been fun and that is perhaps why it's been enjoyable to read. Thank you for the compliment.

As for wondering if an ipod is allowed in the cockpit, that would a big resounding NO. Great way to lose one's ticket. Now my drive to the airport is a different matter however.........

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Hi Thomas!

I´m also just introduced to the "great world of iPod", & I really like the possibilities of this technique.

So my question is if you´re now considering sometime in the future to update your soundsystem in the shop for iPod too?

Now for that handy FM transmitter, I really think that I will have to get me one of those.

Now I can´t wait for sam pics of the progress with the Walker!

Regards,

Anders

I could adapt an ipod to the shop very readily but then what would I do with all those CD's?? Seriously, I'll maintain the disc changer till it finally dies and is unrepairable and then replace it. It probably has better fidelity than the ipod but on those small ceiling speakers it probably doesn't matter.

I've got some Walker updates coming........tomorrow.

Cheers.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Yep, they're handy. But technically they're not legal in Sweden. Anything that transmits a radio frequency signal outside the "free frequency" ranges requires a permit. No matter how short the transmission distance is.

-Paul (licensed to rain on parades)

I know there was some talk about it but I haven't heard that there was an actual change of the regulation. Albeit the chance of getting caught is slim to none...

I sometimes fly with guys who are always willing to rain on parades and I might add those flights are always the longest.........

-Paul that sounds like an unenforceable law doesn't it? Just one more needless intrusion into our daily lives, oh, but for our own good mind you. Don't get me started..............Thanks for the heads up to Anders. I wouldn't want him ending up in the clink because of something he read here. I'm in enough trouble with various people not getting sleep and now I hear some people read this thread at work (willy3486). That probably won't end well...... Soon I'll be getting calls from people wanting to "spend some time" in the shop because they're homeless now after getting fired from work and losing their homes.

Thomas

 

[kbeitz]

I have been meaning to get these on here for some time now, but Rick was so enamored with that anvil that I didn't want to just leave him empty handed. Anyway there were several boxes of new...

...planter runner edges...

and...

... new plow points...

I am seeking guidance on the disposition of these.

Are these potential eBay items? Is someone restoring old equipment that these would be useful. I have no idea at all. These are what, over 30 years old or more I would guess? I can't imagine there is anything current being used that would use these, but I really don't know. Any thoughts out there?



Oh. I did have a request to see a better view of the straight peen hammer so.......

... here you go.

Thomas

Amish auction in Pennsylvania... They will fight over them...

 

[DEnd]

Yep, they're handy. But technically they're not legal in Sweden. Anything that transmits a radio frequency signal outside the "free frequency" ranges requires a permit. No matter how short the transmission distance is.

-Paul (licensed to rain on parades)

They technically weren't legal in the US untill 2005ish... or so (I'm probably completely wrong on the year it was changed), and it is still techincally illegal to operate them in a licensed band in an area where that band has a licensed operator. And techincally it's illegal to use them to transmit material that is "offensive," ie songs with curse words in them etc... The regulations were changed to allow non-profit community stations to not have to apply for a license. The plus side to that is it also allows Christmas displays like this

to operate legally. Many of these displays are used as fund raisers for charities, so really it's a win for everyone.

 

[Brian41]

Wouldnt the brackets be for the fold down legs for wheel alignment purposes? The legs would fold down and the lift would be lowered down on them

BINGO- I had the same lift in my first shop back in the 70's. It was an old Nash dealership and the hoist was used as an alignment rack and you would pick the car up and set it down on the 4 legs.This made sure the car was level every time for the proper wheel alignment. The arms were held up by the single hole bracket with a pin so the hoist could go all the way down and out of the way when you used it as a regular hoist. The legs would have had adjustable feet also for leveling the hoist. Mine also had front and rear rolling jacks for lifting the car while on hoist for servicing axles or front end work.


COOL SHOP thanks for posting.... this is the thread that brought me to this site.

 

[Warg]

I sometimes fly with guys who are always willing to rain on parades and I might add those flights are always the longest.........

-Paul that sounds like an unenforceable law doesn't it? Just one more needless intrusion into our daily lives, oh, but for our own good mind you. Don't get me started..............Thanks for the heads up to Anders. I wouldn't want him ending up in the clink because of something he read here. I'm in enough trouble with various people not getting sleep and now I hear some people read this thread at work (willy3486). That probably won't end well...... Soon I'll be getting calls from people wanting to "spend some time" in the shop because they're homeless now after getting fired from work and losing their homes.

Thomas

Thomas, I read you loud and clear... I normally try not to rain on any parades, and I know only too well how it feels to be stuck with people who have a whole lot of rain to dispense. The comment was more of a tongue-in-cheek thing...
I know the regulation is almost impossible to enforce, but there has been at least one case, and all it takes is a cop in a bad mood who knows about that kind of regulations.
It's always good to have a heads up, to keep one step ahead...

At least you don't have to worry about me as I'm already unemployed. No problems though, I'll probably get a job right after I finish my training as an electrician. [touch wood].

-Paul

 

[3bay]

I've got some Walker updates coming........tomorrow.

Cheers.

Thomas

Can't wait...remember...no teasing allowed!

 

[kbeitz]

That hatchety thing, could be used as a small axe of course, chopping kindling?, but, with that snickety there, nail puller? perhaps it is an adze,
or even more remotely unlikely, was it fruit box makers tool for doing apple/ fruit veg/etc., wood crates, nail in with the head, pull out when misshot with inside of blade, trim too wide a side with the axe blade.
Think outside the box ( sorry) thats way over the horizon
I seem to remember using such a tool with that snitch in the back there, cant remember where it came from, or even where it went

Edit;- the handle on that doesn't look like the original, no shaping on the shaft just before the blade?
but hey, its probably handle no 7?

That hatchety thing....

It's a shingle hatchet....

 

[BB767]

After Several hours (!) work the data plate is close to being finished.

Starting with this, the raised lettering was all polished. The data plate is made of aluminum and is quite soft so I couldn't be too aggressive. I used 0000 steel wool by hand. The goal here was to NOT damage the data plate!! Do it no harm! You can see some damage that has been done to it over the years. I didn't wish to have a spanking brand new look so that damage was left in place, war wounds as it were. Where the lettering itself was damaged that made it all the more difficult to "spiff" up. Overall it's amazing the plate is in as good condition as it is. It's like Sigourney Weaver as Ripley, whispered near the end of the first Alien movie, "lucky, lucky, lucky". Then...

...the powder coat was taped off. The gloss background paint was then spray painted. That all wasn't so bad. Next the paint had to be removed from the letters and margins, leaving the background paint intact ....

This was the REAL tedious part. Some of the tools I used to remove the paint, including lacquer thinner. Those extremely small daubers from Griot's Garage were quite helpful.

Doing the "PAT NOS" numbers on the bottom was challenging to say the least. And tedious, did I mention it was REAL tedious?? I mean really, completely, totally T-E-D-I-O-U-S! They are itty-bity little tiny things put there to lear at me I'm convinced. The data plate's not completely done yet I'm still tweaking and touching it up , but I am closing in on it.

This of course is what I stared with, cracks in the handle and all.

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Here's a reminder of what the goal is. The pictured jack is a lighter blue like my original paint Walker....

... since the one I'm restoring is a little newer and they darkened the paint slightly. But the paint scheme is still the same as you'll see. Next will be a post on the powder coating process and how the rest of the handle turned out. Thanks everyone for your patience on this little project. I've been at this one over a year now but it's coming along to my satisfaction. I'm not the speediest guy, but it'll be pretty nice when done I believe.

My thanks to member airbuff101 for the use of the above Walker advertisement from the 1940's.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Amish auction in Pennsylvania... They will fight over them...

OH? Tell me more please.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Thomas, I read you loud and clear... I normally try not to rain on any parades, and I know only too well how it feels to be stuck with people who have a whole lot of rain to dispense. The comment was more of a tongue-in-cheek thing...
I know the regulation is almost impossible to enforce, but there has been at least one case, and all it takes is a cop in a bad mood who knows about that kind of regulations.
It's always good to have a heads up, to keep one step ahead...

At least you don't have to worry about me as I'm already unemployed. No problems though, I'll probably get a job right after I finish my training as an electrician. [touch wood].

-Paul

Well Paul I know your heart is in the right place so no worries at all about that. Never hurts to get that kind of information out. As you said, "It's always good to have a heads up, to keep one step ahead..."

Good luck with the new job prospects and as always thank you for all your thoughtful input here. I appreciate it.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

BINGO- I had the same lift in my first shop back in the 70's. It was an old Nash dealership and the hoist was used as an alignment rack and you would pick the car up and set it down on the 4 legs.This made sure the car was level every time for the proper wheel alignment. The arms were held up by the single hole bracket with a pin so the hoist could go all the way down and out of the way when you used it as a regular hoist. The legs would have had adjustable feet also for leveling the hoist. Mine also had front and rear rolling jacks for lifting the car while on hoist for servicing axles or front end work.


COOL SHOP thanks for posting.... this is the thread that brought me to this site.

Hello Brian and thanks for the comments. I'm intrigued by the elongated holes...

...would that still apply to your wheel alignment theory?

Thomas

 

[kbeitz]

Don, here's a follow up to some of those items you wondered about.

First about the two sized oil can...

I was sure at first it was an oiler like this placed in a larger bottom can.

But upon closer inspection it is indeed one can.

It was obviously two cans that the manufacture combined to keep the tooling costs down and then were able to offer a can with more volume. When you unscrew the top, it has a long pickup tube the goes the length of the can. I wanted to take a picture, but it had oil in it and it would have been very messy to do so.

Next the heating tanks. They were never used for anything special that my friend can remember. He said his Dad was offered them and he kept them "in case" a need for them ever came up. It never did. My buddy did make a hog roaster out of one of them. He said they were the perfect size for that.

Now about that weight...

...the one with the cast in handle. Here it is after I had it powder coated.

It has US STANDARD cast into it. I could find no other marking on it. I believe it's a 50# weight. I don't know what it's original use might have been. There were no other scales on the property except for the one pictured earlier.

Lastly the stone bush hammer...

That makes much more sense. What Mr. Johnson used it for...who knows? Note from this view that the handle is off set. There were no markings on it. Once it's cleaned up. perhaps something will show up.

Now Don, don't get sun burned in sunny Devon, OK? Thanks for your interest.


Thomas

The true use of the standard weights is for testing scales...
Any Scale company has them and take them with them to calibrate scales.
You probably added some weight to your when you powder coated it.
Elevator company's also use them to test elevators for the drop test.

 

[kbeitz]

Thomas,

Try here, Rivets

You are correct, on the difficult to find part.

Scott

Another placr to try...
Lots to look at...

http://www.mcmaster.com/#uni-tap-rivets/=b7xqma

 

[GreyOwl]

BB767, on the identity of your "tall oil can" here are a few pics that should clear up the original use. You will also see that the upper section does indeed separate from the lower can as just the lower can portion is changed when empty. This is fro 3M but I suspect others used the same idea.

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Charles

 

[kbeitz]

OH? Tell me more please.

Thomas

Check it out... I go twice a year... I live only 12 miles from this auction...
So much to buy ... I dont have the 2011 dates yet. I can post them later.
Picture it: 25-30 Amish auctioneers in one place, selling dozens of items at one time, and acres and acres of “stuff” to choose from – including household goods and nursery stock to live animals (peacocks and horses!) to tractors and antiques.

And the food, oh the food. Homemade fruit pies and whoopie pies, hot sausage sandwiches and hamburgers, and the best thing of all: BBQ chicken cooked over an open fire. It’s so good that a line will usually start forming by 9 or 10 am, because really, what’s not to love about BBQ chicken for breakfast AND lunch? I can taste it now – the saltiness, the smokiness – YUM. It’s pure joy.


WASHINGTONVILLE — An estimated 6,000 Amish and those they call “the English” from across the commonwealth flocked Saturday to an auction to benefit four one-room Amish schools in the Valley.



http://dailyitem.com/0100_news/x563624681/Buggies-bikes-and-cars-converge-at-Montour-County

http://dailyitem.com/0100_news/x994...d-cars-converge-at-Montour-County?start:int=0

Pictures...

http://susquehannavalley.blogspot.com/2010/04/beaver-run-amish-consignment-sale.html

More pictures...

http://dailyitem.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=982605&CategoryID=37346

 

[kbeitz]

Hello there kbeitz. While that's a possibility, there were no marks on the floor left by any wheels....

...I don't know if it would be used enough to warrant it being permanently attached.

When the lift is at full extension you wouldn't need a ladder underneath it...

I would think it might be constantly in the way...

It's nice having nothing over there to trip over.

BTW, all of the above photographs are with the lift at 1/2 extension.

Thanks for the input. I've got two more sons to ask who might know but sad to say, this modification might be lost to history.

Thomas

Our local shop has one... The ladder is used to get in the car when it's up on the lift. The end of the ladder has rubbers wheels and the ladder is never strate up and down. The ladder is bar stock with pipe like rungs.
A flat 4" bar goes under the lift to the attachment hinge.

 

[Amitygravel]

Hello Thomas

Here's a photo of a 'shouldered' oil can. Sawthis one while doing some work out at Clifford - Jacobs. Seems to be fairly new.


By the way , if they are still around I would like to have one of the 'Planter Runner Edges'. However , you will get it back. Slightly altered.


Craig

 

[BB767]

Hello Thomas

Here's a photo of a 'shouldered' oil can. Sawthis one while doing some work out at Clifford - Jacobs. Seems to be fairly new.


By the way , if they are still around I would like to have one of the 'Planter Runner Edges'. However , you will get it back. Slightly altered.


Craig

Craig, note the manufacture of your pictured oil can...

...and this one from the shop lift oil drain from 1954.

It's hard to read since there's so much "gunk" on this water can below...

... but it's from Brookins also. Time span between these items is over 50 years apart. They have been suppling material for shops and garages a long time and still use the same logo. Good quality equipment too.

I'll make sure to save a planter runner for you. Stop out any time.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

They technically weren't legal in the US untill 2005ish... or so (I'm probably completely wrong on the year it was changed), and it is still techincally illegal to operate them in a licensed band in an area where that band has a licensed operator. And techincally it's illegal to use them to transmit material that is "offensive," ie songs with curse words in them etc... The regulations were changed to allow non-profit community stations to not have to apply for a license. The plus side to that is it also allows Christmas displays like this

to operate legally. Many of these displays are used as fund raisers for charities, so really it's a win for everyone.

Thanks DEnd, I wouldn't want to be a scofflaw using it. I don't think offensive material ever comes out of mine.........unless it's Larry Verne's "Hey Mr Custer" from 1960.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/lyrics2/nov_mrcuster.html

Thomas

 

[Brian41]

Hello Brian and thanks for the comments. I'm intrigued by the elongated holes...

...would that still apply to your wheel alignment theory?

Thomas

1st off there should be more than 1 of these on the hoist, mine had 4. I have also seen them with only 2 but they were closer to the cylinder on each side.2nd these should be on the inside of the ramps ruling out the ladder theory. The elongated holes are so when you release the pipe (stand) it drops down and swivels under the pocket and as you let the hoist down the top of the pipe recesses up into this pocket making it more stable and keeps the hoist more accurate to level by hitting the same spot every time.




UPDATE

I just reread your original question and now I see you only have 1 of these on your hoist and it appears to be close to the cylinder. I would bet that it was a safety stand to used when hoist was in full up position only.

 

[Chateau Slate 66]

I agree with the above on the safety stand theory. See how there appears to be a round hole cut in the top of the bracket with the two slotted holes? I bet when the pipe was in the vertical position, after the hoist was set on the stand the pipe would slide up in the slot until it fit into that hole, locking in into place. I would assume the other single tab was to latch the pipe in the horizontal position for storage.

 

[BB767]

I seem to remember a pic of a 5' pole that was a safety stop, to keep the lift from settling.

I think that these brackets are the same thing on a smaller scale.

If you used a 4x4 out of steel or pressure treat, the slots on the pair of angles would let you turn the post either horizontal or vertical, and because of the slotting, the 4x4 would have contact with the underside of the tire channel.

The third angle lets you put in a pin to keep the leg horizontal.


Nuts aka Doug

Elroy would venture to say Doug the sly Nut Case has laid his finger on it with one slight modification. The safety stop would actually be round. Notice the slotted ears in the tab. This would allow the this safety support to be pulled downward which would disengage the pipe from the round "nest" that is incorporated in the bracket.

Doug is also spot on with the tab being incorporated as a storage feature.

You get a load on that lift for an extended period of time you can swing the pole down then lift it up to engage the pocket. The support is then prevented from swinging away

That ole guy was pretty smart!

I believe Nuts aka Doug and Elroy had it pegged on page 101, posts #2014,#2016 as part of a safety device. If you look at the following picture...

... you'll see to the right of the floor fan one of the 5' long poles, ( 1 of 2 such poles) that Doug was referring to. These poles are what was used as a lift safety device by the time I bought the shop. Doug and Elroy's description of the function of that bracket really seems the most likely. Perhaps I can get confirmation from one of the older sons. My buddy has no idea and suggested I ask his older brothers.

Here are those two stands now with a couple of modification I did to them. It might be a coincidence but...

When one of them is positioned under the bracket in question...

...it just happens to fit the hole in the bracket above.

So it wouldn't be a stretch at all to have a similar pipe used as those two gentlemen suggest. I did check and nether pipe has holes where a bolt would have gone through to install on the bracket. That would have been nice wouldn't it?

Also in the top picture, just behind the fan, leaning up against the shelves and in and the picture below...

... is part of an extension ladder that was used to get into cars when the lift was in the up position. I still hope to uncover an old photograph showing that bracket in use.

Thanks everyone for all the helpful ideas. I'm convinced we may yet have definitively solved this one.


Thomas

 

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Another placr to try...
Lots to look at...

http://www.mcmaster.com/#uni-tap-rivets/=b7xqma

Thanks kbeitz for that and all your other suggestions.

For rivets I had a member from another forum kindly send me several of various sizes and styles to choose from.

I'm all set now.

Thomas