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So, what is the toggle switch for in left hand plate?

Being a long time Vette owner I do know it is not something from the factory. The exact use my be known to Thomas. It's all part of the discovered use of these cars.:beer: Dennis

Kill switch? :shocking:

That is the trim plate on the left and the VIN plate on the right. The gentleman I bought the car from told me that switch was in the car when he bought it in 1971, nothing was told to him about it. He traced the wires and found they ended up, unhooked, near the coil. He just left everything as it was. When I was doing my work under there I removed the wires but left the switch, if nothing else to fill the hole. As Dennis mentioned, old cars have tales to tell and as you go through them you get to "discover" traces of past ownership. No question that switch served as a 1960's version of anti-thief protection.

Sharp eyes and a fair question, thanks. ;)

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On these drive on lifts there were fold down legs to set the hoist at about 2' off floor for doing front end alignments. They had adjustable feet to level it also, since a bubble level guage was used for checking caster and camber.
Do you have the turntables for the front wheels? By the way the shop looks great!

Dr Dave, I wish I could say I do but I don't believe that was ever an option with that lift. It's too old for that. Any Rotary Lift literature I have or have seen from that era (late 1920's to early '30's) never mentions front end alignment equipment as an option. I am acquainted with what you described but Mr Johnson's lift isn't one of them I'm afraid.

Thank you for your compliment about the shop. It was all worth the effort. I am really enjoying using the shop as I had envisioned.

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People are aware that you can reply with a quote without including every picture again, right?

Do you mean we don't have to repost the same 42 photos all over again just to say, "nice job". Amazing!

Now play nice everyone. :eek: We all have different computer skills. The point is well taken but here's a helpful suggestion to some who may not know how to do that. When you want to reply to a post and click on the quote tab on the bottom of a post, everything contained in the post being quoted will appear in the reply box where you type in your remarks. Since I'm guilty of using multiple pictures in my posts if you click the quote tab you're gonna get tons of pictures repeated. To remove all or most of the pictures, just highlight the picture address (it will normally be in [ ] brackets and will start and end with [IMG....IMG] Here's an example of a picture address will look like...

[IMGhttp://i171.photobucket.com/album/u288/5555/Cars/1966Corvette/Radio/IMG_40167.jpg[/IMG] .

There will be one of these addresses for each picture in the post. After that picture address is highlighted you just use the delete key on your keyboard to remove it. That way when you post in a reply using the quote tab we don't have the same string of pictures repeated over and over, much as I know everyone likes them. :wtf:

Lastly try to make sure you don't remove [QUOTE from the begining of a quote or [/QUOTE] from the end. That way the written words will remain and be highlighted. This thread already has waaaay too many pages and that would help keep the page count down. Blame me, I find a picture is worth a 1,000 words so I tend to use a bunch of them. I'm just trying to spare everyone some reading is all. :dunno:

I hope this hasn't been too confusing, my computer skills are sadly lacking as well (just ask my Darling Daughter if you don't believe me :sad:) Practice it a time or two when quoting and then preview your response before submitting it. If you don't do it correctly you can always start over. As always I invite anyone and everyone who can add to this or do a better job describing it to jump in here.

Don't forget I do appreciate the feedback all the replies have given me here. It has helped shaped this thread and also what and how I post. Without your input who know what nonsense I might have posted. :D

Grateful Thomas
 

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When I bought my '61 Bonneville there was a toggle switch under the dash that was wired into the charging circuit to disable the generator, to save a few horsepower during a street race. The switch in the Corvette could have been the same thing.
 

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I do have a few projects ongoing at present. The only one that I have pictures of showing real progress are, I'm afraid, of the Corvette and I didn't know how interesting that might be.

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I didn't know how interesting doing maintenance work like this would be, but it does show the shop being put to use. There's another barn bench project almost done as well as some equipment projects that are well under way. Those will be coming up.

Thomas

Thomas, I found all of this to be very interesting and fun to read and look at. Please don't hesitate to keep on posting!
 

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Well, Tom was told before leaving Newark that the hotel in Birmingham, Eng., does not have internet service. The Steam Engine museum he remembered is actually in another part of England where he use to fly. He's going to try to find the Motorcycle Museum (if it's not too difficult to get to from the hotel). If the weather is not very warm and the venue is not easily accessible by public transport, he won't be going anywhere.
Sorry for getting some GJ members' hopes up. He won't be able to respond to any PMs sent. A meet-and-greet will only be by happenstance on this impromptu visit at company expense.

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First off, a heads up to our UK friends, particularly if anyone is in the Birmingham area. The nasty weather here on the east coast has caused my Brazil flight to be canceled and the company decided I should tour Birmingham, Uk instead. So in the name of cross Atlantic good will I will find myself in Birmingham proper this Sunday, Feb 10th for the day and evening. We depart back to the States, Monday the 11th. If anyone is nearby and would like to try to meet up I'm all for it. If not I expect I'll spend some time at the steam engine museum. I haven't been there in about 10 years or so and I found it fascinating. I hope it's still open.

If there is any interest, drop me a PM and I'll see what we can do. It's a last minute, short notice situation so I'd be surprised if it works out, but you just never know.

Thomas

Nasty Weather??? What Nasty Weather... I had to drive home in it last night.. It is just white everywhere and COLD without electricity... Good thing I've been insulating, had to work tonight so I'll finish digging out tomorrow and get some heating going before the house freezes... :willy_nil
Hurricanes in the Summer and Nor'easters in the Winter, just waiting for the Fault running up the coast to do something big and unexpected so we can really claim to have more interesting nature related issues than the west coast... :wtf:
 
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Much as I try to be on top of everything, my job still contains some surprises. We are actually not in Birmingham proper, rather the company has us staying close by in Stratford Upon Avon, William Shakespeare's home town. In decent weather it's all very charming and there is a McLaren car dealership nearby which had a few of their cars in the show room as we drove by. Also turns out the hotel doesn't have WI FI but they do have ether net so I'm able to send this post. I expect with a little snooping around one could find some very interesting and very old shops around here no doubt.

The weather in the New York/ New Jersey area isn't too bad and we're running normal flight ops there so I should be back on my normal north/ south flying shortly. Never a dull moment in this business. Thanks again everyone, I've got some material for you coming up.

Thomas
 

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Probably too late now but should you get snowed in at Stratford (as you know, it'll take around 1" to grind the UK to a halt) the Heritage Motor Museum at Gaydon is not far away. I work in Derby, not far North but you should be well on your way with a bit of luck by then. ;)
 

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Greetings Bogdan M and welcome to our expanding circle of friends here. You might very well be the first to post in from Romania. Chris should be updating that information soon I would guess. I keep hearing that we're going to start service flying to Bucharest one of these days. I've never been there but would very much like to visit.

I don't know at what point we can consider this old shop as "being seen all over the world" but I think we're getting close. I've already got fellow in Cape Town, South Africa following along so all we need is Antarctica to post in and we'll have all the continents covered! What would Mr Johnson think of that?! :)

Thomas

A friend of mine sent me a link to this post. You have really done an outstanding job with that garage. I really enjoyed the pictures. I am writing this from Mcmurdo Station Antarctica so now your garage has been viewed from all the continents. It's a good thing he sent me the link we he did, we may be heading home as early as Friday.

Cheers,
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Thanks, Brian! All continents now accounted for (and page 97, post #1921) updated. Glad to include you before you vacated the premises. Happy travels home, wherever that may be.

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A friend of mine sent me a link to this post. You have really done an outstanding job with that garage. I really enjoyed the pictures. I am writing this from Mcmurdo Station Antarctica so now your garage has been viewed from all the continents. It's a good thing he sent me the link we he did, we may be heading home as early as Friday.

Cheers,
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A most warm welcome to you Brian. Many thanks for taking the effort for your post! Never, ever thought someone in Antarctica would be looking at this thread and posting in! Perhaps we need a new Thread header, "Restored 1930's Auto Shop, Seen Around the World" Not sure but I suspect this is a first for Garage Journal, to have a thread viewed and posted from all 7 Continents! Garage and auto enthusiasts are the same the world over no question.

What indeed would Mr Johnson think now? :D

Safe journeys my friend and thanks again. Come see the shop in person.

Thomas
 

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A most warm welcome to you Brian. Many thanks for taking the effort for your post! Never, ever thought someone in Antarctica would be looking at this thread and posting in! Perhaps we need a new Thread header, "Restored 1930's Auto Shop, Seen Around the World" Not sure but I suspect this is a first for Garage Journal, to have a thread viewed and posted from all 7 Continents! Garage and auto enthusiasts are the same the world over no question.

What indeed would Mr Johnson think now? :D

Safe journeys my friend and thanks again. Come see the shop in person.

Thomas

So now that we have conquered Antarctica... ...does anyone know an astronaut?
 

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There's a drag strip near Stratford, called Shakespeare County Raceway! Nothing going on there at the moment obviously, just thought you might like to know!!
 

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I see we are both working on the same project. I have my dash out on my 66 vette convertible. It started out with new carpet, seat covers, and now refurbishing some of the dash items. Once we had the old seat covers off we did find some repair necessary on the seat frames. I am enjoying my car as you are..........a driver but I still like to keep it looking nice.
 

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Thanks, Brian! All continents now accounted for (and page 97, post #1921) updated. Glad to include you before you vacated the premises. Happy travels home, wherever that may be.

Chris

You can add Krakow, Poland to the list. :rocker: I've been browsing this thread from there just last week, and will likely soon do do again. I've actually shown this thread to some of my colleagues there - turns out to be quite a few petrolheads there - so you may well get more visits from there.
 
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So now that we have conquered Antarctica... ...does anyone know an astronaut?

Interestingly enough, in fact I do. I never thought about the space station. Hummm? Not sure what protocols would be involved with that. Let me make some discrete inquires about it. Many of those fellows are true car guys also (not real sure about the gals though). I'll have to get back with you on that one. That would really be a hoot too wouldn't it? Watch this spot for more information. ;)

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There's a drag strip near Stratford, called Shakespeare County Raceway! Nothing going on there at the moment obviously, just thought you might like to know!!

MisteR Tee I didn't know that so many thanks for passing it on, yes I glad to know. I'd have never guessed that's what they'd call it though, who would have thought. :dunno: I'm guessing they start racing around May or so?

Thomas
 
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I see we are both working on the same project. I have my dash out on my 66 vette convertible. It started out with new carpet, seat covers, and now refurbishing some of the dash items. Once we had the old seat covers off we did find some repair necessary on the seat frames. I am enjoying my car as you are..........a driver but I still like to keep it looking nice.

Mark there are always certain items you want to tend to and refurbish with older vehicles. At times it's difficult to know where to draw the line between maintaining them and being drawn into a full blown restoration effort. Just need to take a disciplined approach. Those mid year Corvettes can be a challenge with all the tight quarters can't they! Keep 'em looking nice but drive 'em!

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Continuing now with some additional information involving the '62 Impala.

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As previously mentioned the car is largely original with about 31,000 miles. Here it is seen just after the original owner's daughter opened the garage door after it was purchased and I went to pick it up several years ago.

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This is the garage that car has always been garaged in since new in December 1961.

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Several years after her parents had passed away she finally decided it was time to let it go to another new home. I knew it would be difficult for her seeing it leave and it was. We spent a couple of hours together talking about her memories of it and looking at any pictures of it she could find. She put together all the old paper work associated with it including the original bill of sale, dated December 23, 1961. It was a Christmas present from her father to her mother and was her mother's car.

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Back then I only had an open trailer to move cars with...

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...so here is, the 1962 Impala Super Sport on its way back to Illinois. This was in October I believe.


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Since it's so original I have every intention to keep it that way. It still needs to be maintained to function correctly. In 1962 they never bothered with putting much paint on the engines so over the last 1/2 century (the car is now 51 years old if you can believe it!) this is what an original engine compartment from that era will look like. Hardly shiny but it has a patina that many find endearing. I've been cleaning it as best I can without removing any original paint. It's only original once. BTW, some of the components pictured are incorrect, notably the oil filler tube cap and brake master cylinder. Those and other items are being addressed and corrected with proper 1962 parts as I continue work in the engine compartment. Over the years as the car was maintained "back in the day", people weren't too concerned with correct factory appearance, only that it operated correctly.

Some of the original gaskets were leaking so I've been working my way through the engine and maintaining it as necessary. I did a compression test and 6 of the cylinders showed identical readings of 176 psi (pounds per square inch), one at 174 and the last at 173. Internally the engine is sound with regular maintenance such as oil changes having been performed on a routine basis.

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Since I was going to replace the intake manifold gasket I had to remove the distributor. Note the orange over spray 3/4's of the way up the shaft. That's correct factory over spray.

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With the distributor out and I made use of the Sun 600 distributor machine.

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After the distributor was cleaned, new points, condenser and rotor cap were installed.

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The distributor was clamped in the Sun and tuned up setting the points, dwell and checking the advance. Utilizing the Sun machine makes that type of work so much easier and Bob T's overhaul of the Sun machine last year worked like a champ.

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With the manifold gasket replaced and the distributor all tuned up and ready it was reinstalled in the '62.

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Chevrolet put those distributors at the back of the engine near the firewall, not a very handy spot. One advantage of 60's Chevy Impalas however, is the engine compartment has ample room. As you can see I really get into my work! :D It really was easier to just stand next to the engine, rather than lean over it.

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My buddy Lou, of Bonneville Salt Flats speed record fame, was in town visiting so he willingly lent a hand. Speaking for myself, doing a project like this is so much more enjoyable with a friend. Not only is it nice to have another pair of hands but I find the comradeship between friends, the shared bond of doing a project together has an intangible quality I find most satisfying. This isn't work, it's going through the journey of life and making the most of it.

To be continued.

Thomas
 
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You can add Krakow, Poland to the list. :rocker: I've been browsing this thread from there just last week, and will likely soon do do again. I've actually shown this thread to some of my colleagues there - turns out to be quite a few petrolheads there - so you may well get more visits from there.

"petrolheads" are universal I'm finding out. We all share that common bond that those who "don't get it" will never understand. Thanks for sharing the thread with your colleagues there. I look forward to hearing from them. :thumbup:

Thomas
 

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When you show us pictures of your gleaming beautiful Impala I can't keep myself from showing pictures of the faith of it's brothers and sisters. For some reasons these cars, together with Plymouth Valiants and Chevrolet Caprice are favourites among the redneckiest of rednecks in Sweden. Used and abused, mostly in the countryside under the name of 'Pilsnerhäckar'. 'Pilsner' you understand and 'häckar' is best without translation. And don't blame me for the cars, I'm not responsible for my compatriots!
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It's almost a cross between a low rider and a rat rod. Kinda sad to see one in that kind of shape but to each their own I guess.
 
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When you show us pictures of your gleaming beautiful Impala I can't keep myself from showing pictures of the faith of it's brothers and sisters. For some reasons these cars, together with Plymouth Valiants and Chevrolet Caprice are favourites among the redneckiest of rednecks in Sweden. Used and abused, mostly in the countryside under the name of 'Pilsnerhäckar'. 'Pilsner' you understand and 'häckar' is best without translation. And don't blame me for the cars, I'm not responsible for my compatriots!
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those are still in a pretty decent shape for "pilsner bilar" compared to this:
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Truly a sad state of affairs isn't it? :sad: While to each his own...

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...how could you not want to keep it as Chevrolet built it 1964 in this case...

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...or 1962?

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Take pride in your ride. :)

Thank you gentlemen for making me appreciate even more having been brought up and taught to respect and maintain older machinery....responsibly.

Thomas
 

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Oh the travels I undertook in a 63 Impala Convertable that one of my friends had
we repaired and painted it all up an SS with a 396 what a beauty
 

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They say "many hands make light work", but in this household, it seems that many hands make more projects (and, thus, more work). So I don't think adoption is a great idea from our end. In your mind, it may seem like a good deal for you, but, trust me, you have no idea what you'd be signing up for. If you've gotten tired just watching what's going on here on GJ, you don't know the half of it. Glad you're all having fun, though, because we certainly are!

Chris

(And HOTFR8 - it would ALL be free labour, but we do provide meals!)
 
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Much earlier in the thread, when talk began about landing/drag strips and helipads, I could see that everyone was helping out in finding ways for me to stay busy with a hotel/B & B concept (as if I'm not busy enough!). It definitely rekindled the discussion after we bought the adjacent farm. But, noooo, we won't become a "destination" and upset the balance in The Center of the Universe, though we really do enjoy our visits with GJ members/families at the Restored 1930's Auto Shop. Thanks for all the kind thoughts from our ever-widening group of friends.

Chris
 
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