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Hello Thomas,
Thanks for your photos and details.
the Morton system is simple and cool - but something is not allowed in Germany :sad:......

my assistant is sweet and hardworking:

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I have the best wife in the world :thumbup:

I know alllll about those sweet and hardworking assistants...

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Got one myself!! :thumbup: She told me if I whispered in her ear she'd follow me anywhere..........and so she has! 37+ Years and counting. TLC :bounce:

Lucky, lucky, lucky Thomas
 
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Not much stress here (though he does worry more than me)! His family went grey early (even his sisters before age 35) - his hair stayed dark much longer than that. OTOH, my family doesn't grey until much later (in their 70s) (I hope my darker hair doesn't totally change until then).

Chris
 

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All good information MisteR Tee thank you sir. In fact the way you presented it, it's twice as nice! :D When I get back to the UK I'll try to send you a PM in advance and get any information you might have on what is happening around whatever part of the Kingdom I find myself. I suspect you'er rather well tuned in.

Thomas

BTW, you can just edit your second, repeat post and delete it to remove it. ;)

Fixed it for you. ;)

Thanks guys, thought I could delete it but just never got around to it.

Thomas, having been around the rodding & drag racing scene since the early 60s, I guess you could say that, I couldn't possibly comment!!:D

Any time you're over here, just let me know. I will have officially "retired" by the end of March, so apart from my part-time business selling wheel nuts(lug nuts, to you!), valuing the NSRA hot rods for their insurance scheme, maintaining my property portfolio, building & maintaining my own hot rod, crewing for my friend's Super Pro Altered dragster & attending numerous rod shows at home & abroad.....I'm pretty free!!!!:lol:
 

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No I didn't know they had small block Chevys in them. No wonder they're such great cars. If they don't get better milage there than they do here in the States, operating a 327 in Europe would be kind of pricey wouldn't it? Thanks PlekVis. :thumbup:

Thomas

they are, but fortunately, here in the netherlands, cars older than 25 years are road-tax-free, so most people run them on lpg (liquified petrol gas) which is about the quarter of the price of normal gasoline, so that compensates ;)
(but they are planning to change that law, no final version is yet given)

a "modern" car (younger than 25) you must pay very high road-taxes if you wan't to drive on lpg
 

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To Thomas and Chris I have just finished reading your amazing story and pictorial history I hope it dose not finish here I will endeavour to send you some pictures of my sheds and cars although the sheds are small they do the job
I have a holden Kingswood which is powered by a small block chev which you might find interesting so bare with me I will get them posted asap.
 
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Not sure if I threw this one out there before... :)

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Thanks Rick for another day brightener from you! I showed it to a few guys I work with.......... and they didn't get it. Typical pilots. :dunno:

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Thanks guys, thought I could delete it but just never got around to it.

Thomas, having been around the rodding & drag racing scene since the early 60s, I guess you could say that, I couldn't possibly comment!!:D

Any time you're over here, just let me know. I will have officially "retired" by the end of March, so apart from my part-time business selling wheel nuts(lug nuts, to you!), valuing the NSRA hot rods for their insurance scheme, maintaining my property portfolio, building & maintaining my own hot rod, crewing for my friend's Super Pro Altered dragster & attending numerous rod shows at home & abroad.....I'm pretty free!!!!:lol:

OK, note to self; don't go back to the UK until after March when MisteR Tee is retired and will have loads of free time. Got it, thanks! :D Seriously I will let you know when I find my back over and perhaps we can get into an adventure or two.

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they are, but fortunately, here in the netherlands, cars older than 25 years are road-tax-free, so most people run them on lpg (liquified petrol gas) which is about the quarter of the price of normal gasoline, so that compensates ;)
(but they are planning to change that law, no final version is yet given)

a "modern" car (younger than 25) you must pay very high road-taxes if you wan't to drive on lpg

I know all about the high road taxes for "modern" cars but didn't know lpg was so prevalent among older cars. Is that mainly in the Netherlands or continental Europe in general? I'll have to pay more attention next time I'm there.

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I know all about the high road taxes for "modern" cars but didn't know lpg was so prevalent among older cars. Is that mainly in the Netherlands or continental Europe in general? I'll have to pay more attention next time I'm there.

Thomas

LPG is a popular fuel here it used to be much cheaper than petrol (gasoline). used here on older petrol trucks and taxis. I have my 4x4 International on dual fuel (petrol / LPG) and HOTFR8 (the 1948 F4) runs Diesel with LPG injection to burn the Diesel fuel cleaner and hotter giving me a better fuel economy.

LPG here used to be a cheap fuel about half the price of petrol but it is slowly catching up with our petrol pricing.
 
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To Thomas and Chris I have just finished reading your amazing story and pictorial history I hope it dose not finish here I will endeavour to send you some pictures of my sheds and cars although the sheds are small they do the job
I have a holden Kingswood which is powered by a small block chev which you might find interesting so bare with me I will get them posted asap.

A nice welcome to you Kingswood and to the Garage Journal as well. Hope you enjoy yourself here. Since you own a Holden I'll assume you are in Australia?

This is what I think of...

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...when talking about a Kingswood station wagon. A full size Chevrolet with fake wood on the sides! :D Look forward to your pictures and not to worry, this thread isn't finished just yet. I got more "stuff" on the way.

Thomas
 

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The part about LPG-conversion is quite interesting. Here in Norway, it is mostly the larger/newer big-engine cars (mainly US SUVs/pickups) that are converted to LPG. This is due to the fact that a conversion here is quite expensive (due to strict regulations and rules), even with our steep gas prices. It is rare to see older/classic cars converted, we try to keep them original (we have a few of those Magnus showed earlier though:mad:).

However, amongst our guest workers (mostly from eastern Europe), converted cars come in all shapes and sizes. My guess is that the cost is a bit lower down there? It seems that continental Europe has a differing view on this than our mooooost esteeeeeeeemed politicians and bureaucrats.:dunno:
 

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I know all about the high road taxes for "modern" cars but didn't know lpg was so prevalent among older cars. Is that mainly in the Netherlands or continental Europe in general? I'll have to pay more attention next time I'm there.

Thomas

i think only in the netherlands, as far as i know in germany you pay tax on the gas, here on the gas instalation, hence the price difference
 
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SPOUSE Bench - Part I

First off we've seen what a SPOSE Bench is, that's making a Silk Purse Out of a Sow's Ear as seen in the barn...


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...here a Sow's Ear...


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...and this maybe a near Silk Purse?


Now what's a SPOUSE Bench? That would be making a Silk Purse Out of an Ugly Sow's Ear - SPOUSE.

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This is the best before picture of it I could find but you get the idea. It's a crummy looking bench, actually kind of ugly. Here's a little background on it first. In the late 1970's Dad and I went to an auction looking to buy a couple of century old maple cabinet makers benches which we did. At that same auction I spotted this sorry looking bench. Almost all the other buyers looking for benches didn't give it a moments notice especially with all those lovely, hand made cabinet makers benches nearby but you know me, champion of lost causes. :dunno: The top work surface wasn't straight or terribly flat, the back of it tapered so the left side of the top was about 2" (5 cm) narrower than the right side. Also the bench had been built in so the right end surface of the lower cabinet wasn't finished, just raw, rough exposed cabinetry and it had this nasty green paint on the lower cabinet to boot. But looking past all that, the top was made out of oak with no holes drilled in it, the lower cabinet was sound and solid with 7 drawers which weren't worn out, 3 doors that fit their respective openings and overall it was a handy size. I was on a pretty strict budget and had just bought a very nice bench an hour before but thought if it didn't get priced too high I might be interested in it. It turned out to be the last item actioned and most everyone else was busy loading equipment they had purchased earlier so it generally was overlooked. I bought it for $25 was mighty pleased with myself. Fast forward 35 years later and it was now time to make it visually a little more appealing and more useful. The idea of this project was minimal effort with maximum results.

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This is where the back of the top tapers, you can see the cabinet base below it. Just the top must have interfered with wherever it was built in because the base cabinet is square, it doesn't taper.

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Here's another look down the length of the top showing the taper. The new oak piece on the right is a tapered fill piece I made to square the top up. I jointed the filler piece edge that was going to be glued to the existing top so I had a smooth, flat edge to glue to. The existing edge on the top was just cleaned up with a hand plane. All I did was make one very shallow pass to expose some new wood to glue to. Since I couldn't be sure how clean the joint was I also screwed the filler strip to the existing top. It's in the back and not subject to much activity so I didn't get too involved with making a super glue joint.

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The back has now been repaired with a filler piece glued and screwed in and the original painted back splash reinstalled.

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The rear top repair as seen from the other end. The taper in the rear surface can be easily seen.

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This right end had been built into some space and was never finished off so I corrected that, using 3/4" (1.9 cm) plywood.

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The right side had an end cap installed with this odd shape...

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... which I just left as is and worked around it. I applied a thin oak strip to finish off the top edge and trimmed the side out.

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With the top repaired and the end trimmed out I started work on making it visually a little less, ummm unappealing. That will be seen in Part II so please check back. Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 
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These two are what I think of when it comes to the Kingswood Wagons.

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It's interesting how GM uses different products in other areas of the world. When I'm traveling I'm always on the lookout for different cars from US manufactures that we don't see here in the States. That Kingswood script on the front fender looks to be a dead ringer for the one they used on the older Chevrolet wagons. Thanks HOTFR8 for posting those. I really do need to get down your way and tour around a bit. I know I'd like it......a bunch!

Thomas
 
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I love this thread!

Nice roof racks on the Kingswood. :)

Hi rydeshed, glad you like it here. Yup this thread has all kinds of good "stuff" to look at including some nice racks..........

Now Chris hush, you know I was only talking about that pair.........of pictures I mean. :D

Thomas
 

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So Tom, how's the couch in the barn? ;)

You would have to admit he does have the best Dog House if the need does arise... Toys to work on.. Music for Entertainment... Heat, hot water and electricity... Cold Soda on demand... I expect that there is a phone out there for the all important take out orders... Gus for companionship... Still, He might need extra blankets to ward off any chill from the arctic cold front emanating from the Home Stead... :(

The Garage Journal crowd is pulling for you!! :thumbup:

In your spare time maybe you could post some more pictures of the Tool Shed Archeological Dig.. Something to help keep your mind off of the COLD winds... :bounce:
 

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been awhile since i have been on this thread . just now got caught up . really enjoy reading all the post and love seeing the pictures of how the old shop was. Thomas , too bad we couldn't meet up at the Lincoln club meet in Pontiac , mi . you were only 10min away.
 

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Hi perry71. We were there - where were you? My Mark VIII won its third emeritus - two more to go until the second crystal bowl. We might have driven by your house on our tour. It was a great event!

No being banned to the shop for Tom. (noticed how I avoided commenting on "rack") He has enough fun out there when he chooses to go. He escaped to the southern hemisphere instead!

Chris
 

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Hi perry71. We were there - where were you? My Mark VIII won its third emeritus - two more to go until the second crystal bowl. We might have driven by your house on our tour. It was a great event!
Chris

I live a mile east of the PALACE of auburn hills. just couldn't make it over there where you guys were. I did atleast make it to the woodward cruise for a day
 
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So Tom, how's the couch in the barn? ;)

You would have to admit he does have the best Dog House if the need does arise... Toys to work on.. Music for Entertainment... Heat, hot water and electricity... Cold Soda on demand... I expect that there is a phone out there for the all important take out orders... Gus for companionship... Still, He might need extra blankets to ward off any chill from the arctic cold front emanating from the Home Stead... :(

The Garage Journal crowd is pulling for you!! :thumbup:

In your spare time maybe you could post some more pictures of the Tool Shed Archeological Dig.. Something to help keep your mind off of the COLD winds... :bounce:

What, what did I say?? :dunno: Post and run, that's my motto. Right after I posted that I left for Sao Paulo which is where I am at present. This is a much better vantage point from which to gauge how goes it back home. :eek: My Mama didn't raise a fool for a child!

Safe and Sound (for now) Thomas
 

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It's interesting how GM uses different products in other areas of the world. When I'm traveling I'm always on the lookout for different cars from US manufactures that we don't see here in the States. That Kingswood script on the front fender looks to be a dead ringer for the one they used on the older Chevrolet wagons. Thanks HOTFR8 for posting those. I really do need to get down your way and tour around a bit. I know I'd like it......a bunch!

Thomas

Those wagons were called Chev Constantia's in South Africa - sold with either a 4.1 litre straight-6, or a 5.7 V8. Lovely cars in their day, and you still see a few around.
 
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SPOUSE Bench Part II

In an effort to make the bench visually more appealing with minimal effort I painted the the lower base cabinet.


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This is a "one off" bench having been made from scratch. All the doors and drawers fit their respective openings nicely but they might not be interchangeable. So as the doors and drawers were removed...

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...I made sure they would be placed back from where they came. I made a rough diagram of the base cabinet and then numbered the back of each door and drawer as a guide. To store the screws from the hardware I just screwed them into this old computer punch card, note the clipped corner. Old computer punch cards are ideal for storing small screws such as these. They are just the right thickness cardboard and a handy size.

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Real quick for those who might not know, computer punch cards were what we used to program computers with back in the 1960's and 70's. Once a program was keyed in, these cards would be punched and then stacked in order and fed into a card reader which would tell the old main frame what routine to run. The notched corner on the card was how we knew front from back of the punch card to keep them in order. The cards were also color keyed as an aid. The University of Illinois was at the fore front of computer science from the late 1940's on. As such there would always be boxes and boxes of used computer cards sitting by the dumpsters outside the computer lab all the time. Every so often they'd even have stacks of blank ones so I'd dumpster dive and retrieve them for later use as note paper among other things. I got these cards over 35 years ago, maybe even 40 years. I have more but the stash is slowly being depleted.

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So all the hardware was removed...

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...and the bench was moved outside to sand it in preparation for painting. Since the snow blower is mounted on the tractor at present, the dolly I made for it was free and I used that to move the bench around.

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As you know, sanding creates very fine dust which I really didn't want all over inside of the barn. Even though it was a bit chilly outside, note the snow in the background, doing that messy work under the barn carport made clean up extremely easy.

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Once it was sanded it was brought back inside to the heat. I used a tac cloth to clean all the very fine dust...

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... that vacuuming left behind. This is why I installed those outlets in the center of the floor. I find it so handy to have electrical power out in the middle of the barn and not have extension cords strung everywhere. This to me is even handier than that new fangled RoboReel contraption.

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First I stained...

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...and then sealed the oak end cap using Varathane.

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The base was then primed...

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..as were the doors and drawers.

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For the final coats I used a gloss enamel paint which can leave brush marks even when using an appropriate brush.

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Thinning the paint helps and I've found using Floetrol to thin it works out quite well.

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While the paint on the cabinet was drying I cleaned up the hinge hardware. I numbered all the hinges so they would be reinstalled back in the same place as before, note the #3 penciled on this hinge.

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I used a brass wire wheel on the pedestal grinder to remove the old paint. I wasn't sure how soft the hinge material was and didn't want a steel wire wheel to remove any metal or leave brush marks on the hinge. The brass is soft enough to remove only paint and leave the underlaying metal undisturbed. Once cleaned of old paint the hinges were spray painted gloss black.

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Before the drawers were placed back in the cabinet I lubricated the bottom of the runners with bees wax.

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Lubricating wood drawer runners makes an enormous difference in the effort to open or close the drawer and helps minimize wear on the runner and cabinet slide also. I prefer bees wax but household paraffin wax seen in front works well also.

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With the hardware installed...

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...and all the various finishes dry...

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...all in all I think it looks...

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...quite respectable...

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...for what started out as an unloved orphan. I still have a vise to mount on it and a few other odds and ends but it's largely complete.

So that's the story of my barn SPOUSE bench. From a $25 auction bargain special, to being loaned to Dad for 27 years, to my final make-over with minimal effort for maximum effect. It still has loads of warts or rather, "patina" but it'll do just fine for me. I've got some very precious memories attached to that old bench making it priceless to me.

That concludes this portion of our program. Up next is a major powder coating project that I'm in the finishing stages of. Stay tuned for that one! Thanks again everyone, it's great to be home. :)

Thomas
 

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Hah! Those punch cards bring back memories. Dad worked at the power company for years in data processing, and he would bring those babies home by the boxful. Loved going to work on Saturdays with him and watching the cards move through the machine...

(Oh, yeah, the SPOUSE looks fantastic, too!)
 

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SPOUSE Bench Part II

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...I made sure they would be placed back from where they came. I made a rough diagram of the base cabinet and then numbered the back of each door and drawer as a guide. To store the screws from the hardware I just screwed them into this old computer punch card, note the clipped corner. Old computer punch cards are ideal for storing small screws such as these. They are just the right thickness cardboard and a handy size.

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Real quick for those who might not know, computer punch cards were what we used to program computers with back in the 1960's and 70's. Once a program was keyed in, these cards would be punched and then stacked in order and fed into a card reader which would tell the old main frame what routine to run. The notched corner on the card was how we knew front from back of the punch card to keep them in order. The cards were also color keyed as an aid. The University of Illinois was at the fore front of computer science from the late 1940's on. As such there would always be boxes and boxes of used computer cards sitting by the dumpsters outside the computer lab all the time. Every so often they'd even have stacks of blank ones so I'd dumpster dive and retrieve them for later use as note paper among other things. I got these cards over 35 years ago, maybe even 40 years. I have more but the stash is slowly being depleted.

Thomas

Somewhere in the house I still have my Program Punch cards from High School and College... Brings back memories, Fortran 4 Rules...

SPOUSE Bench Part II
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Ummm.... Why is there a 3 pound Mason's Hammer laying on the Beloved Anvil?? :headscrat
 

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He uses it to beat (well, tap) the anvil to hear the tone. You know an anvil is solid if the ring is clear and goes on for a long time - kind of like a tuning fork. In this case, it's a love tap.
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Don't ever think that anvil would be abused - remember, he

takes it for walks!

Chris
 
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He uses it to beat (well, tap) the anvil to hear the tone. You know an anvil is solid if the ring is clear and goes on for a long time - kind of like a tuning fork. In this case, it's a love tap.
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Don't ever think that anvil would be abused - remember, he

takes it for walks!

Chris

...In his powder coated little red wagon.

:bounce:

Seriously....:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Steve
 
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