gordyy
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Thomas I have to ask have you tried any of these gutter chains to turn or move it sideways? just a quick thought in my warped and weird mind
Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Continuing with the WSS for the old shop.
These are the shelving units after being powder coated.
One unit will be installed here, by and over the solvent tank and the other...
...over the air compressor.
To fasten the unit by the solvent tank to the wall...
... I used similar looking lag screws as these, 1/4" (.63 cm) dia. except the ones I used were 4" (10.1 cm) long, topped with a stainless steel washer and acorn nut. The shelves over the compressor used 5/16" (.79 cm) X 3.5 " (8.8 cm) lag bolts.
Some of the wood shelves needed the corners notched and all of them needed banding installed on the edges. Note the dark, long shelf board on top. I had some used 3/4" X 4' w X 10' long walnut plywood that I had salvaged out of a dumpster over 30 years ago. I finally put it to use.
Here's a better look at the walnut plywood with the banding installed but prior to sanding. It had some scuffs and blemishes but overall very nice material and extremely flat.
Here you can see the corner notches and walnut banding in place on one of the lower shelves.
With that all done the shelves were stained with the appropriate stain and then finished with polyurethane.
The shelf frame was installed on the wall...
...and the shelves put in place. Since the top shelf had no notches to hold it in place, a couple of flathead self-tapping screws were used to screw it the metal frame. This was done on the top surface where the screws won't be seen.
The stain is a pretty good match for the walnut banding.
Here's the one of the corner's.
Stainless steel acorn nut/lag screw detail holding the frame to the wall. Those were all placed so I was lag screwing to wall studs, that's why they were 4" long.
Since this is the area where Mr Johnson had placed his bulk oil tanks, I thought I'd keep all my oil and other fluids...
...on these shelves. I had a friend nearby, cleaning out one of his barns and he gave me a whole case of unopened Bardahl Additive Motor Oil in metal cans he couldn't use and thought my shop would be the place to display it. I couldn't disagree, it looks right at home.
I have some other old unopened oil cans to go with it. The lowest shelf is sized for 1 or 2 gallon containers.
Once I get everything stored in place I'll post it.
Overall the project turned out splendidly I think. Nothing elaborate, just a simple shelving unit inspired by Mr Johnson's original shelves in the lift room and custom fitted to the space available. It fits right in and should look good for years to come.
Thomas
These are the shelving units after being powder coated.
One unit will be installed here, by and over the solvent tank and the other...
...over the air compressor.
To fasten the unit by the solvent tank to the wall...
... I used similar looking lag screws as these, 1/4" (.63 cm) dia. except the ones I used were 4" (10.1 cm) long, topped with a stainless steel washer and acorn nut. The shelves over the compressor used 5/16" (.79 cm) X 3.5 " (8.8 cm) lag bolts.
Some of the wood shelves needed the corners notched and all of them needed banding installed on the edges. Note the dark, long shelf board on top. I had some used 3/4" X 4' w X 10' long walnut plywood that I had salvaged out of a dumpster over 30 years ago. I finally put it to use.
Here's a better look at the walnut plywood with the banding installed but prior to sanding. It had some scuffs and blemishes but overall very nice material and extremely flat.
Here you can see the corner notches and walnut banding in place on one of the lower shelves.
With that all done the shelves were stained with the appropriate stain and then finished with polyurethane.
The shelf frame was installed on the wall...
...and the shelves put in place. Since the top shelf had no notches to hold it in place, a couple of flathead self-tapping screws were used to screw it the metal frame. This was done on the top surface where the screws won't be seen.
The stain is a pretty good match for the walnut banding.
Here's the one of the corner's.
Stainless steel acorn nut/lag screw detail holding the frame to the wall. Those were all placed so I was lag screwing to wall studs, that's why they were 4" long.
Since this is the area where Mr Johnson had placed his bulk oil tanks, I thought I'd keep all my oil and other fluids...
...on these shelves. I had a friend nearby, cleaning out one of his barns and he gave me a whole case of unopened Bardahl Additive Motor Oil in metal cans he couldn't use and thought my shop would be the place to display it. I couldn't disagree, it looks right at home.
I have some other old unopened oil cans to go with it. The lowest shelf is sized for 1 or 2 gallon containers.
Once I get everything stored in place I'll post it.
Overall the project turned out splendidly I think. Nothing elaborate, just a simple shelving unit inspired by Mr Johnson's original shelves in the lift room and custom fitted to the space available. It fits right in and should look good for years to come.
Thomas
Boosted1
Well-known member
That is Excellent work Thomas!
So much that you run the risk of having to re title your thread to something w "craftsman" in it.
As always, I enjoy your updates.
Thanks!
So much that you run the risk of having to re title your thread to something w "craftsman" in it.
As always, I enjoy your updates.
Thanks!
Vernmotor
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Very Nice 
Boosted1
Well-known member
On second thought, that comment doesn't do your place justice either.
It is clear you had / have a vision, committment and the craftsmanship.
Some of the projects within your project are more than most people would commit to. Like restoring the lift.
Thanks again.
It is clear you had / have a vision, committment and the craftsmanship.
Some of the projects within your project are more than most people would commit to. Like restoring the lift.
Thanks again.
I really like those new brackets and shelves, and putting a scrap of walnut (found in a dumpster!) to work suits my frugal nature perfectly!
I hope you don't mind, but I decided to post a couple of pics of the rainchain I installed last summer. This is a real popular idea in Portland, and there is plenty of opportunity to see it in action and to fine-tune the water dispersion.
I used a real heavy chain, (the wire is about as thick as my little finger); the copper fittings and fixtures to handle the direction change and the splash apron cost more than I would have liked, but once you get started on something like this, logic flies out the window. (disregard 'frugal nature' comment above, ha ha)
Anyway, didn't mean to hijack, but since you posted a pic, I thought I might do the same.....
As you can see, some of the monsoons we get in the spring and fall totally overwhelm the capacity, but I'm liking the photo-ops presented to me during the extreme weather we've enjoyed this winter...
I hope you don't mind, but I decided to post a couple of pics of the rainchain I installed last summer. This is a real popular idea in Portland, and there is plenty of opportunity to see it in action and to fine-tune the water dispersion.
I used a real heavy chain, (the wire is about as thick as my little finger); the copper fittings and fixtures to handle the direction change and the splash apron cost more than I would have liked, but once you get started on something like this, logic flies out the window. (disregard 'frugal nature' comment above, ha ha)
Anyway, didn't mean to hijack, but since you posted a pic, I thought I might do the same.....
As you can see, some of the monsoons we get in the spring and fall totally overwhelm the capacity, but I'm liking the photo-ops presented to me during the extreme weather we've enjoyed this winter...
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hi all. i started reading this back in dec 13, and now have gotten to the a. t.p. point . great thread rusty
rmalkow2
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Continuing with the WSS for the old shop.
These are the shelving units after being powder coated.
One unit will be installed here, by and over the solvent tank and the other...
...over the air compressor.
To fasten the unit by the solvent tank to the wall...
... I used similar looking lag screws as these, 1/4" (.63 cm) dia. except the ones I used were 4" (10.1 cm) long, topped with a stainless steel washer and acorn nut. The shelves over the compressor used 5/16" (.79 cm) X 3.5 " (8.8 cm) lag bolts.
Some of the wood shelves needed the corners notched and all of them needed banding installed on the edges. Note the dark, long shelf board on top. I had some used 3/4" X 4' w X 10' long walnut plywood that I had salvaged out of a dumpster over 30 years ago. I finally put it to use.
Here's a better look at the walnut plywood with the banding installed but prior to sanding. It had some scuffs and blemishes but overall very nice material and extremely flat.
Here you can see the corner notches and walnut banding in place on one of the lower shelves.
With that all done the shelves were stained with the appropriate stain and then finished with polyurethane.
The shelf frame was installed on the wall...
...and the shelves put in place. Since the top shelf had no notches to hold it in place, a couple of flathead self-tapping screws were used to screw it the metal frame. This was done on the top surface where the screws won't be seen.
The stain is a pretty good match for the walnut banding.
Here's the one of the corner's.
Stainless steel acorn nut/lag screw detail holding the frame to the wall. Those were all placed so I was lag screwing to wall studs, that's why they were 4" long.
Since this is the area where Mr Johnson had placed his bulk oil tanks, I thought I'd keep all my oil and other fluids...
...on these shelves. I had a friend nearby, cleaning out one of his barns and he gave me a whole case of unopened Bardahl Additive Motor Oil in metal cans he couldn't use and thought my shop would be the place to display it. I couldn't disagree, it looks right at home.
I have some other old unopened oil cans to go with it. The lowest shelf is sized for 1 or 2 gallon containers.
Once I get everything stored in place I'll post it.
Overall the project turned out splendidly I think. Nothing elaborate, just a simple shelving unit inspired by Mr Johnson's original shelves in the lift room and custom fitted to the space available. It fits right in and should look good for years to come.
Thomas
Great job of bringing old and new together. Paying some honor to Mr. Johnsons design and updating it with quality materials and of course toe powder coating. Thanks again for showing us the process.
Kevin54
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Thomas.....any plans on refurbishing the Lubesters? With as neat and clean and new looking that you have everything, the old "patina" looks out of place.
Thanks Rom's. I bet in France you have to be careful who you're talking to when you start saying they have nice oil cans don't you? It could get misunderstood in the translation.
BTW, very nice garage you have yourself. Great attention to detail!
Thomas
Thomas.....any plans on refurbishing the Lubesters? With as neat and clean and new looking that you have everything, the old "patina" looks out of place.
Kevin that's a fair question. At this point no I don't. Just looking at them in the picture doesn't do them justice I don't think. When you're in the shop it's not all shiny/new/restored everywhere, honest. There are some rough edges here and there in the shop that I like. The Lubester on the far left, closest to the solvent tank, doesn't have much paint left on it any more. It really took a beating over the years sitting right next to Mr Johnson's solvent tank. I haven't cleaned it and in person you can see pretty thick grim that has accumulated and built up on it over the years which has a certain appeal to me. It's a good reminder of what once was.
Here is that same spot about 9 years ago. I've been the proprietor of that shop for so long now it's getting harder all the time to remember what it use to look like. Having those Lubesters sitting there as they are is a touchstone to the past for me I guess.
Thanks Kevin for your continuing interest in the shop all these many years. I do appreciate it.
Thomas
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Sweet Old Bill
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Thomas & Miss Chris,
The prior post is ripe with the thought of an upcoming 10 year Anniversary! A splendid reason for a party.
Just a suggestion.
The prior post is ripe with the thought of an upcoming 10 year Anniversary! A splendid reason for a party.
Just a suggestion.
Now there is an interesting thought. The actual anniversary would be in November, 2015 which is far too cold, but early that fall, Septemberish can be a lovely time of year here. Lots of time to plan ahead. By then the tool shed would be cleaned out but Joe might want to come anyway. Hummmmmmm.
With a Gleam in His Eye Thomas
A35Plt
Active member
Greetings to you A35Plt and welcome. If you've got the patience to become an A&P, doing detail work is all "part of the deal" isn't it? Many thanks for the terrific Bardahl P51 picture. Beautiful machine in eye-popping livery that I'd love to take around the patch!
Bardahl has enjoyed a long history as a racing sponsor.
Shown is a Kurtis 500B Bardahl Special driven in the 1955 Indianapolis 500.
Here's a little history of that car, chassis number 363:
Commissioned by Andy Granatelli for driver Freddie Agabashian to run in the 1953 Indy 500 this car, chassis number 363, was a contender for the outright victory, and one of the fastest cars at the speedway that year.
Weighing in at only 1800 lb, sitting on a 96.5-inch wheelbase and powered by a 270 Offy made this a very potent package. Agabashian qualified in second position at a speed of 137.546 mph. Bill Vukovich started on pole and dominated one of the hottest 500s in history. Agabashian ran strong dogging Vukovich until the 102nd lap - exhausted by the extreme heat - in a year when only five drivers went the distance - he was relieved by Paul Russo. Officially they finished in 4th position but Granatelli was convinced they had actually finished in 2nd. The speedway's general manager Wilbur Shaw acknowledged the scoring error but persuaded Granatelli not to protest for the good of the speedway.
For 1954, Granatelli entered the Kurtis for driver Jim Rathmann. In practice the car was very fast, but a qualifying error erased their first attempt with what Granatelli insists would have been the speedways first 140 mph lap. Rathmann did not raise his hand to signal he was attempting to qualify and his run was not allowed. Granatelli protested the ruling. As the argument went on the engine was kept running and because Granatelli did not want competitors to see his new ram air induction system the hood was not opened which resulted in the engine overheating. The one of a kind 404-hp engine could not be repaired in time to qualify for th erace.
Discouraged, Granateli sold the car to Racing Associates who entered the car in the last 500 in 1955. Driven by Cal Niday, the car qualified ninth at 140.302 mph but crashed out of the race on lap 170.
The car was stripped of its mechanical parts and stored for the next 30 years in Southern California. In the mid '80s the car was discovered and a complete restoration began.
The car was finished in 1996 the car took third place in the racecar class at Pebble Beach, and was shown at the Indianapolis Museum Hall of Fame.
Bardahl history for those interested:
It was in 1939 that Ole Bardahl started the Bardahl Manufacturing Company in Seattle, Washington USA. He had an idea that shifted the limits of engine performance. He came to the conclusion that the molecular construction of motor oils could be modified with an additive, which would make it cling to moving parts.
To lubricate, oil is splashed or sprayed against metal surfaces but being liquid drains away from even the microscopic peaks and valleys that are always present even on the smoothest or surfaces. Friction occurs together with added heat and wear. Ordinary hydrocarbon oil molecules are electrically neutral, as there is no positive or negative charge present to hold them against the molecules in the metal.
Ole Bardahl changed all that with the discovery of ‘Polar Attraction Formula’ such that these regular hydrocarbon oil molecules are combined with other base elements to alter their molecular structure. Molecules take on an electrical charge and fasten themselves tightly on any oppositely charged metal molecule.
In this way a microscopically thin, but extremely durable film of lubrication is held magnetically in place against the metal, thereby insulating the surface against friction, heat and wear.
The Bardahl company built a (motor) industry business and racing reputation upon this principle. It has been used ever since by racing champions and ordinary motorists alike gain that winning margin of extra performance, reduced wear and longer engine life.
The above is courtesy of the Bardahl Manufacturing Company.
Thomas
Never a worry about hijacking here oberst, we're all friends sharing. It's interesting gutter chains are common out there. Mine are the only one's I've ever seen locally. Thanks for posting them.
BTW, your book idea with Beltsville Shell was terrific. We've had 20 folks read and sign off on it so far and everyone's enjoyed it. I expect it back in a couple of days before Chris and I head out to see Cary Thomas. When we get back I'll put it back in circulation so if someone wants to read it next, PM me anytime. I'll keep everyone posted.
Thomas
Hello rusty and welcome to you sir. I wonder if the thread turned out to be different than what you thought it might be when you started reading? I've been hearing that from time to time. As you noted it's just A Temporary Pause, there's more coming.
Thomas
Thanks rmalkow2 for your thoughtful comments. It's always a balance trying to make things fit in without being overtly obvious about it. When I was younger I often wondered how things were made or done so that's why I post so many pictures during a project.
Thomas
GT-TX
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Tom:
This could be the answer to your short runway situation next door. Ever flown an Air Cam?
Fred
http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381
This could be the answer to your short runway situation next door. Ever flown an Air Cam?
Fred
http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381
There are some simply amazing machines out there right now, no doubt about it. The video is captivating. No I've never flown one but with that cockpit waaaaayyy out front there I imagine it's quite a different sensation from what I'm use to. That would take a little getting use to.
Thanks Fred.
Thomas
WarrenJ
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As a former Seattle native/resident, the name Bardahl was well known. Right up at the top along with Ivar's.
To show how we all have our own frames of reference, when you mentioned well known Seattle names,"Right up at the top along with..." I was thinking...............Boeing.
Thanks Warren.
Thomas
I hope he's not too upset about the lost book sales!
I thought about that but you know what, he's just happy it's still being read and enjoyed. I suspect and will find out when we get together, but I think it was a labor of love more than anything. We're getting together at his house and will get to see his current Corvettes as well. Clearly a life long passion for him.
Thanks again for the initial idea. It has certainly given a shared experience for this group. Now once everyone descends on the shop next year for the anniversary party; talk about a shared experience................
Thomas
hobbitss
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I hope he's not too upset about the lost book sales!
http://smile.amazon.com/Beltsville-Shell-You-What-Drive/dp/0974575704/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393900266&sr=8-1&keywords=beltsville+shell
And notice the reviews, every one of them 5 stars. Not a bad one in the bunch. That's my feeling too and apparently everyone who has read our copy. It's just in a word, FUN!
Thanks Joe.
Thomas
tkbowman
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As a virtual lifelong Seattle area resident, Bardahl is legendary in boat racing as well. Thanks for posting the race car pictures.
Then there are the other legendary names originating here like Boeing, Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks, and many more.
Then there are the other legendary names originating here like Boeing, Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks, and many more.
I selfishly did not want to wait to get in the book ring, so I bought a used copy for myself. Turns out it is a signed copy by Cary to someone. Their loss is my gain! Excellent read, especially if you were "there". My thanks to this group for making me aware.
Ron
Ron
Bob Heine
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When Thomas first posted about Beltsville Shell it pushed so many of my buttons I had to have my own copy. You can buy the book through Amazon but I chose to go to http://www.beltsvilleshell.com/index.html and buy a personalized copy from Cary. It's only $16.95 delivered and the site says he still has about 50 copies left.
Great Bob, thanks for that update. I too prefer to buy it direct from the author. I think it's a book you can come back to again and again. It was about three years since I had read it last and I enjoyed it just as much as the first time.
While we're on the subject of Beltsville Shell, Hemihead2 is the next person in line to receive it after Chris and I get back from San Diego with it.
Thomas
coljar
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I've peaked at your thread at least 3 or 4 times a week since I've been on here and always enjoy it. I was reading about Beltsville Shell in your last posts and decided to order it because it sounds interesting. I usually try to order from the author, but when I looked at Amazon's site, it showed only one book remaining, so I didn't want to take any chances. I've read Burt Levy's "Last Open Road" series of books and have enjoy them as well.
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markviii
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I have (and have read) all of Burt Levy's books - he has a booth at Road America where I bought them. He signed each one. I enjoy my yearly conversations with him - he's quite the character!
Chris
Chris
coljar
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That's funny. We go to the Vintage Gran Prix at Mid Ohio every summer and I've bought all of mine from him at his booth there, and of course, he signs them. We always have an enjoyable conversation and not just about cars and racing. He told me his next book is not going to be car related.
WarrenJ
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To show how we all have our own frames of reference, when you mentioned well known Seattle names,"Right up at the top along with..." I was thinking...............Boeing.
Thanks Warren.
Thomas
I guess I was thinking more about the "local" flavor. Or, maybe I was thinking about food!!
MonoxieChild
Well-known member
Great thread. Just spent a few hours going through it. Absolutely love the garage. I know ive seen the garage in print in the past at some point. Im sure you mentioned it in the thread at some point and i missed it. But think its pretty awesome to see a garage i saw years ago somewhere on this forum right after joining.
I wanted to show the 2nd shelving unit over the air compressor.
The 2 shelf frame work was installed with 5/16" x 3.5" long lag bolts.
I had some beautiful, flat 3/4" maple plywood left over from the Barn Bench Build, BBB that I used here. This shows just a natural stain but you can see why I like to stain wood. It really brings out the wood grain, even if it's on the top of a shelf surface and would normally never be seen.
For these shelves I banded them with sycamore which is a light colored wood. The shelf on the right is the top shelf and is not notched in the corners like the lower shelf on the left.
Nothing glamourous but highly functional, sturdy and well finished.
Since the top shelf wasn't held in place by the corner notches, it was screwed to the frame from below using lag screws.
Because these shelves are over the air compressor and items on it might vibrate off when the compressor is operating , I put a 1/16" lip...
...on the front edges and sides of both shelves to keep those items in place.
So there we have it now and...
...that corner as it once was a few short years ago.
Thanks again everyone.
Thomas
The 2 shelf frame work was installed with 5/16" x 3.5" long lag bolts.
I had some beautiful, flat 3/4" maple plywood left over from the Barn Bench Build, BBB that I used here. This shows just a natural stain but you can see why I like to stain wood. It really brings out the wood grain, even if it's on the top of a shelf surface and would normally never be seen.
For these shelves I banded them with sycamore which is a light colored wood. The shelf on the right is the top shelf and is not notched in the corners like the lower shelf on the left.
Nothing glamourous but highly functional, sturdy and well finished.
Since the top shelf wasn't held in place by the corner notches, it was screwed to the frame from below using lag screws.
Because these shelves are over the air compressor and items on it might vibrate off when the compressor is operating , I put a 1/16" lip...
...on the front edges and sides of both shelves to keep those items in place.
So there we have it now and...
...that corner as it once was a few short years ago.
Thanks again everyone.
Thomas
Sunbimmer
Well-known member
Looking at these before and after pics I always have a moment of 
It still is amazing what you did with the place.
Love the oil cans on the shelf.
Thanks for sharing Thomas every day again a good read
It still is amazing what you did with the place.
Love the oil cans on the shelf.
Thanks for sharing Thomas every day again a good read
vettelvr75
Active member
Thomas,
I discovered this thread about 2 weeks ago and have been absolutely mesmerized by it. I have been reading it daily on my lunch breaks at work and every moment I have had at home when I'm not doing homework or other things. I have thoroughly enjoyed everything, I'm only 20 but I have always had a dream to have a property exactly like yours. It has given me way too many ideas. I have just reached page 300, but couldn't wait to look at 93 more pages to post and tell you how awesome it is.
I live in Southern California but I am transferring to University of Oklahoma in July, and my Dad and I are planning on taking a trip soon in a 1975 Vette that I spent the last 4 years restoring. We are going all the way across Route 66 to Chicago and then going down to Bowling Green to go to the National Corvette Museum. As luck would have it our drive from Chicago to Bowling Green passes through the center of the universe! I would love to stop by and see the place. And maybe be one of the lucky few to see the infamous tool shed...
I discovered this thread about 2 weeks ago and have been absolutely mesmerized by it. I have been reading it daily on my lunch breaks at work and every moment I have had at home when I'm not doing homework or other things. I have thoroughly enjoyed everything, I'm only 20 but I have always had a dream to have a property exactly like yours. It has given me way too many ideas. I have just reached page 300, but couldn't wait to look at 93 more pages to post and tell you how awesome it is.
I live in Southern California but I am transferring to University of Oklahoma in July, and my Dad and I are planning on taking a trip soon in a 1975 Vette that I spent the last 4 years restoring. We are going all the way across Route 66 to Chicago and then going down to Bowling Green to go to the National Corvette Museum. As luck would have it our drive from Chicago to Bowling Green passes through the center of the universe! I would love to stop by and see the place. And maybe be one of the lucky few to see the infamous tool shed...
56vette461
Well-known member
Be very careful grasshopper, er, ahhh, I mean vettelvr75.
A trip to the center of the universe is a dangerous venture for a young man. You may become prematurely addicted to all things from a classic period of American hard working history just seeing the place for real. The tool shed addiction has it's own non curable affliction that is only staved off by copious and repeated treatments of rust, parts cleaners and the smell of welding rod and gas.
Congratulations on the vette restoration and more importantly a move to SOONER country. That too has it's own form of life changing addiction. I've lost a sister and a nephew to that incurable disease. I am proud to see you have the real corvette fever, ... one with chrome bumpers.
Sorry Chris and Thomas, just could not resist myself here. aj
A trip to the center of the universe is a dangerous venture for a young man. You may become prematurely addicted to all things from a classic period of American hard working history just seeing the place for real. The tool shed addiction has it's own non curable affliction that is only staved off by copious and repeated treatments of rust, parts cleaners and the smell of welding rod and gas.
Congratulations on the vette restoration and more importantly a move to SOONER country. That too has it's own form of life changing addiction. I've lost a sister and a nephew to that incurable disease. I am proud to see you have the real corvette fever, ... one with chrome bumpers.
Sorry Chris and Thomas, just could not resist myself here. aj
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Ohhhhhhh, looks like the vortex has snagged another one Chris! There can be no clearer demonstration that, resistance is futile!
Hello vettelvr75 and a warm welcome to you sir. I see you too have come to the conclusion that, we are indeed The Center Of The Universe. As such you and your Dad are obligated to stop by for a visit on your way south to the National Corvette Museum. Not sure what might be going on here at that time but we would be delighted to set up a shop visit and a peek into the tool shed if you think you'd be up for it. Be forewarned, just as 56vette461 cautions, it's not for the faint of heart!
Send me a Private Message (PM) once you get some dates in mind and we'll try to make it happen.
As 56vette461 wisely points out, passing through here at your young age could very possibly be hazardous to your future development. Proceed with caution.
Look forward to seeing you both on a true dream cruise. The adventures you'll have will last a lifetime.
Thomas
No worries aj, I consider it one's civic duty to warn others of the inherent dangers that lie in TCOTU. You are to be commended for your bold act of bravery.
Thomas