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Chris, if I may...



...those Business Entrance signs (there were 2, one for each direction) were posted on the road in front of the shop near the shop entrance. Presumably to warn people that there could be equipment coming and going out of the shop especially since that entrance was near the top of a hill. This one in the Tool Shed was in its present location when we purchased the property and hasn't been moved yet. My buddy removed it from the roadside a few years after his dad, Mr Johnson, had pasted away since he felt it was no longer needed and placed it in the Tool Shed. The other sign, on the opposite side of the road, was bolted to a power pole and was still there when we bought the shop in 2005. A few months after our purchase it disappeared and I'm pretty sure who removed it but I've never asked about it since we already had this one.



I think Chris, you're thinking of the Slow Dangerous Hill sign that the village let us keep. :dunno:

As for your suggestion Craig about the sign placement.......well I'll have to give that some additional thought and it is an inspired, original suggestion at that. :D Sunday would be fine for the fender pickup BTW. London's rock pile is still where she left it.



I've come across boxes and boxes of NOS parts still in their original boxes. I've just been gathering them up and setting them aside for further evaluation. I'll get them into the barn and this winter where I'll be able to clean them up and see if they warrant retaining them. Some of the boxes themselves are very cool. Additionally I came across some cool Go Kart material from the early sixties but I didn't take the time to photograph it. That brought back a bunch of memories for me. :thumbup: I'll see what tomorrow might bring. Thanks everyone.

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Oh, those little details! Too many to keep up with (and really I just glanced at that picture). I'm keeping that in mind for the eventual quiz. Really, no long-term memory or studying necessary to complete the "evaluation".

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Hello Thomas and Chris,

I just caught up on the website, having just read all entries since May (forgive me for falling behind).

1. It was great visiting with you guys again, getting to spend a day screwing around, seeing Bloomington Gold, visiting with some of your family, and getting to spend a night sleeping in the center of the universe (i felt weightless, as gravity was pulling equally from all vectors).

2. Happy belated anniversary!

3. Please put me on the list for Beltway Shell, if the list is still open.

4. I solved my oil leak issue. Turns out Yamaha issued a service bulletin decades ago explaining that the dipstick specified too high of a level. I also rerouted the breather tubes and terminated them in a PCV type cone filter within a cutoff plastic bottle. Zero leakage.

Attached are the photos of
-me arriving at your house
-heading off into the drizzle which morphed into an hour of nearby lightning strikes and the hardest rain of my 44 year riding career
-part of my family at the lake in Kansas
-safe arrival back in Baltimore after 19 days and 3,000 miles

Gotta think up another trip for next summer where we can meet up again. Maybe Road America Vintage again?
 

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Go Kart Material

I'll admit it, after all these years I still have a soft spot in my heart for Go Karts. As you might remember Mr Johnson built my first Go Kart in his shop in the early to mid 1960's.

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It was almost identical to this one which was in the shop when I purchased the shop. Perhaps that's what started me off on the road to ruin and my life-long passion for all things automotive. So it was with great delight as I was sorting Tool Shed items that I came across a the following brochures, pamphlets and ads. Most of it was dated late 1959 to 1962.

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This is just some of what I came across. I'll post more shortly. I'd love to have a few of those seen above. As I said I just have this soft spot for them, guess I never really grew up. :D

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Totally awesome find great vintage stuff
in the words of the count of counting cars and pawn stars these are the things we broke our first bones on
 
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Hello Thomas and Chris.....

1. It was great visiting with you guys again, getting to spend a day screwing around, seeing Bloomington Gold, visiting with some of your family, and getting to spend a night sleeping in the center of the universe (i felt weightless, as gravity was pulling equally from all vectors).

2. Happy belated anniversary!

3. Please put me on the list for Beltway Shell, if the list is still open.

4. I solved my oil leak issue. Turns out Yamaha issued a service bulletin decades ago explaining that the dipstick specified too high of a level. I also rerouted the breather tubes and terminated them in a PCV type cone filter within a cutoff plastic bottle. Zero leakage.


-heading off into the drizzle which morphed into an hour of nearby lightning strikes and the hardest rain of my 44 year riding career

-safe arrival back in Baltimore after 19 days and 3,000 miles

Gotta think up another trip for next summer where we can meet up again. Maybe Road America Vintage again?

Hello Rick, thanks for the update. For those who may not remember, Rick showed up at the shop last year for a shop tour, during what eventually turned out to be (correct me if I'm wrong Rick) about an 8,000 mile (12,875 Km) road tour of the United States. He did it all in...



...this Superformance Cobra he built. It had no convertible top BTW, he was exposed to the elements for about 3 months of driving. Next thing I know a year later he shows up this past summer on this...



...650 Yamaha as part of his 19 day, 3,000 mile (4828 Km) jaunt across the US.... again. He was here less then 24 hours, just enough to experience the joy of a night spent in TCOTU. :) He was up early the next morning...



...packed and then riding off at the crack of dawn...



..into the teeth of a huge, severe thunderstorm. We looked at the radar before he left but still, he described the lightning strikes and rain as the most intense and heaviest he had ever experienced in his 44 years of riding experience. Chris and I just stared in amazement as he rode off in the rain.

He is by all accounts, a most interesting fellow who clearly is enjoying life to the fullest. Without the shop, Chris and I (and all my friends here) would not have know him. It's fun to know there are folks out there among us who just do their thing....regardless. :thumbup:

Rick, you definitely need to get another trip together as an excuse for us to meet up. You are a MAN among men! :beer:

Thomas
 
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Go Karts II

Here's some additional material you might be interested in seeing. Since Mr Johnson made Go Karts in the shop starting in the late 1950's (I don't have the faintest idea how many he made nor do any family members) perhaps he was looking for different construction ideas as Go Karts were just starting to evolve. I don't remember there being so many different manufactures.

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Personally I see many design features in this Track Master as seen above...

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...that were used in Mr Johnson's karts. Not terribly sophisticated but this was still an evolving industry.

Of course during that evolution we saw...

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...ads like this. Look at the steering wheel used in the ad in that dragster. For those that don't know it was called a "buttery fly" steering wheel. Being young and highly impressionable, my buddy and I decided that if it was used in dragsters it was just what we needed on our karts. For the sake of saving money we decided we could make our own. Besides there was alllllllll that scarp steel just laying around the shop so...

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...this is what we came up with. We just made this one to start with to see how it would work out.

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It was actually a rather nice piece consdering how young were we at the time.

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We used heater hose to wrap the hand grips...

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...and then wrapped the heater hose with black electrical tape for a real racy look plus we were convinced we'd get a better grip. We never did get around to fitting a hub and mounting it on our karts. I don't recall why not. I hadn't seen that steering wheel in close to 50 years when I found it along with some other Go Kart equipment in the Tool Shed clean out this week. Boy did that dredge up some great long ago memories. :3gears: I am so blessed I was able to purchase this property and be the one to clean it up. I wouldn't have traded the experience for anything. When I tell people I'm living the dream I'm not kidding! Thanks everyone for your understanding of my indulgence here.

Thomas
 

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Thanks Thomas for those cool Go-Kart memories. Love that steering wheel.

You are indeed blessed but without your vision and very hard work none of this would have happened. You and Chris have done an outstanding job.

Keep it coming!
 
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You are most welcome Denny. Here's a little more information on the fabled Tool Shed.



These are not the latest inside pictures...



...but they do show progress out there. In fact it's much cleaner now than what you see here.



I doubt this old cabinet makers bench has been this clean in over 60 years.



It is in very rough shape. Originally I though I'd give this away to some poor, overly ambitious woodworker but now I'm not so sure anyone would want it. It's really ragged and in poor overall condition. The top isn't even flat, it's got a heck of a swale in it. Anyone out there interested in a free, turn of the century cabinetmakers bench with two tail vises? As they say, "always garaged, ran when parked but needs work!" :eek:



Mr Johnson's old blacksmith vise has been removed and is waiting cleanup, reconditioning and later installation on another bench. Who knows what has been crafted on it over the decades? You can see some of the bench dogs near the front edge. Amazingly enough it has all it's bench dogs still with it.



Tomorrow morning the final scrap steel clean out has been scheduled. It's suppose to be dry so by this time tomorrow afternoon almost everything be be gone. I'll keep you posted on this historic event! :D


Thomas
 
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A whole lot of progress going on at the center of the universe.
Glad to see that the Beltsville Shell is back on the road again.
This is a favorite place on the net for me to check our almost every day.
Thanks again for sharing your goings on with the rest of us. :thumbup:

Vince
 

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I borrowed the Simplex add from your post for Throw Back Thursday on fb. I raced one in 1957!
Thank you both for caring about this stuff and sharing.
 

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It would appear the swale on the bench is because the legs rotted away.. I'm sure it could come back with a new undercarriage.... & some BLO clear up etc

(plants seed in Thomas's brain... steps back...)
 
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A whole lot of progress going on at the center of the universe.
Glad to see that the Beltsville Shell is back on the road again.
This is a favorite place on the net for me to check our almost every day.
Thanks again for sharing your goings on with the rest of us. :thumbup:

Vince

Hi Vince, yup there's a bunch going here, I just haven't had the time to post it all....yet.
Beltsville Shell is just about ready to go to redcar in South Carolina. I got an email from the present reader a few days ago. In part he told me..."About 1/3-way through it already. I like the short chapters. Cary Thomas is an excellent writer and story teller. Lots of interesting side bars too that paint additional details. This may make a really neat motion picture....Really enjoying the book." When it's done in SC it'll come back to me and then it's going to Europe for a tour, so guys over there, get ready. ;)

I borrowed the Simplex add from your post for Throw Back Thursday on fb. I raced one in 1957!
Thank you both for caring about this stuff and sharing.

onething if you raced a Simplex back in the day you might be interested to know there is one on eBay right now-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191361751618?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

It's had some rough modifications/repairs done to it but looks like a solid enough project. A little proper repair work, some powder coating, a West Bend engine and you'll flash back to 1957 in no time! :thumbup: Any chance you have a vintage picture from back then?

It would appear the swale on the bench is because the legs rotted away.. I'm sure it could come back with a new undercarriage.... & some BLO clear up etc

(plants seed in Thomas's brain... steps back...)

Rick try as you might I'm not rising to that bait! I have 4 cabinet makers benches right now and don't need a 5th! :p You're right of course about the base causing the problem. I'm hopeful I can find a new home for it soon. The Tool Shed is scheduled for complete removal in a weeks time and I don't have any place to relocate that bench. Once the roof over it is removed I don't think the elements will be very kind to it. I'll try to get a Craig's List ad going in their Free Stuff section. As always, I do appreciate your helpful suggestions.

Thomas
 

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Rick try as you might I'm not rising to that bait! I have 4 cabinet makers benches right now and don't need a 5th! :p You're right of course about the base causing the problem. I'm hopeful I can find a new home for it soon. The Tool Shed is scheduled for complete removal in a weeks time and I don't have any place to relocate that bench. Once the roof over it is removed I don't think the elements will be very kind to it. I'll try to get a Craig's List ad going in their Free Stuff section. As always, I do appreciate your helpful suggestions.

Thomas

You can always make a rustic table out of it for the new house!:D

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Not in our new house ... no..no..no... "Rustic" just won't fit in, at the new place or our current place. Looks like it may fit into someone's potting shed, though! (We can't save everything, contrary to what some people think.)

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Wish that bench was local, I'd save it.

In the next couple of days I'll put my forks on the John Deere and gently lift it up and move it to a better spot that won't interfere with the removal of the Tool Shed. The bottom of the base may very well partially disintegrate doing so, in fact I rather expect it will. Then I'll be able to get better pictures of it from the back side as well. It looks to be a "partners" bench, designed to work from both sides and not be placed against a wall as it is now. Once you get a better view of it Mavawreck I'm quite certain you'll fall in love it and have to make it your very own. :D

As for inside the Tool Shed itself...



...some of the final material from inside was soon to be...



...outside on John's trailer.





This was part of the electrical system that I found in use in the old shop when I first bought it.



As John was leaving, turning back to inside the Tool Shed...



...all that remains is the Keller reciprocating hacksaw and at the other end...





...a couple of benches I'm keeping to help with the building removal and...



...mostly dirt.



The Keeler saw is in search of a new home as well.





This should make a very cool project for someone, but not me. I plan on donating it to the I&I Farm Museum: http://www.antiquefarm.org/

but if they can't use it perhaps someone here can? Let me know if it looks like something you can't live without. Be advised I'm looking to donate it to someone to restore and use, not to scrap it out! :eek: Not sure how heavy it is but I personally can't even begin to budge it. With my John Deere I can load it in the back of a pickup or trailer no problem, but unloading it at the other end would be your problem. I'll be moving it out and storing it until it gets adopted so I'll get better pictures once it's in more light.

There are a very few small odds and ends left but the fabled Tool Shed is now empty! :rocker: I doubt I could have done it while I was still flying. Clearing it out turned out to be an immense project. The amount of material in there , both large and small was astounding.







This is just a fraction of what was eventually scrapped.

I spent days and days and days and more days working in there sorting and cleaning. The oldest labeled NOS parts I found were for a 1936-38 Ford V-8. They were Sorensen electrical parts of some sort. I saved what I could of the good stuff and in the coming months I'll start sorting it all out. As in the past, I suspect I'll ask for your assistance identifying some of it.

This coming week will be spent...



...pulling nails on the Tool Shed siding in preparation of that building being finally de-commisioned. This has to be done carefully so the siding isn't damaged in its removal.



These are the first of many more to go. Stand by!

Thomas
 

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It will be such a relief to get the tool shed down before our 9th year anniversary of ownership and before the inclement weather comes again. We thought it would happen sooner. It's quite a milestone in the evolution of this property. Luckily, the metal sides and roof will be saved and the stuff inside has either been re-purposed or recycled. Otherwise, it would have rusted into oblivion and what a waste that would have been.

So, Joe and everyone who has been following along, we're glad you enjoyed the ride (basically the deconstruction of the lean-to and tool shed) while it lasted. But, stay tuned. There's always more, if you hadn't noticed.

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No, no, no, no, no,no,no,no...... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!:Twitch:

Joe, I challenge you to make the pilgrimage to T.C.O.T.U., load that reciprocating saw into your rig, take it home and restore it to the level of quality and craftsmanship that our humble leader Thomas has taught us and enjoy it as a keepsake of the vicarious life we all live here on this thread.

Better hurry, though. Winter is coming and soon there will be snow!

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It's a perfect time to take a road trip while the Fall colors are beaautiful and the snow hasn't begun to fly yet. Time and distance are only excuses. After all, this is a destination - and you even get free souvenirs (and possibly a free room at the inn and a meal at the legendary Philo Tavern)! What more could you ask for?

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Thomas - fact check:

1. It's a Factory Five Racing Mk 4 cobra kit (not a superformance). that means I had to build it myself (superformance only sells rollers)
2. the trip around the USA was 16,000 miles or 25,800 kilometers
3. when I read about the activities and accomplishments of some of the folks on this forum, I feel like a boy among men!
 

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After more time than I care to disclose I've finely reached A.T.P. The entire time I've been reading all I could think about was how simply amazing it would be to be you, or even visit your slice of heaven. I love it all, the property, cars, work you've done, everything is just beyond belief for me. One thing that stuck out at me was the famous anvil, my father has a Hay Budden 202# he had gotten from my grandfather which I was able to squirrel away from him this weekend when I went home to visit. I used it quite a bit growing up but never put much thought into it until I started doing some metal work in my garage. I looked up the serial number and it was built around 1919 as best I could tell.

It may be a little forward, but I'd like to volunteer to be the caretaker of the Keller Saw and that Cabinet Makers Bench if you would still have them when I can make it up that way the week of Thanksgiving. I'd even buy you supper at the Philo Tavern if you could allow me to visit/tour that amazing space you have. One last set of questions, did I miss the story on how you came to be the caretaker of the TR4 (I hope I'm remembering right), as well as the Corvette top saga? Have a wonderful day and I'm eagerly waiting on more goodies to read from you and your amazing wife!
 

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It's a perfect time to take a road trip while the Fall colors are beaautiful and the snow hasn't begun to fly yet. Time and distance are only excuses. After all, this is a destination - and you even get free souvenirs (and possibly a free room at the inn and a meal at the legendary Philo Tavern)! What more could you ask for?

Chris

We would be stopping at a few taverns to make that trip at 27hours each way.
 
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Thomas - fact check:

1. It's a Factory Five Racing Mk 4 cobra kit (not a superformance). that means I had to build it myself (superformance only sells rollers)
2. the trip around the USA was 16,000 miles or 25,800 kilometers
3. when I read about the activities and accomplishments of some of the folks on this forum, I feel like a boy among men!

Well thanks Rick, I knew I could count on you to set me straight. As I remembered the milage total on your road trip last year was something staggering, especially considering it was done in an open car and in just a few short months.

Very sorry to mislabel your Factory Five Racing Cobra. Don't ever forget you're dealing with an old, feeble retired pilot here. :eek:

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Here are some additional pictures of the cabinet makers bench as it emerged into the sunlight for the first time in decades.





Now that's what you call a barn find!







On the top are two drawers that I removed so I could pick it up with my forks. In the back is a set of crummy shelves that someone installed in an extremely poor fashion. That is not the trademark of something Mr Johnson would have done. The good news is that shelf would be very easy to remove. It's practically falling off by itself! :eek:



This is one end, note the tail vise on the left...



...and this is the other end and the second tail vise. The base, or rather what remains of it, is a bit rotted away as you can see. I'll try to get a better overall picture of the whole bench so you get a better idea of what someone might be in for if they decide to adopt it.

Thomas
 

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Just imagining the things that cabinet bench made in its day can be a mind blowing thing.
terrific look to it.
When I was a kid there was a blacksmith that lived just down the street. they had one of those Keller hacksaws at the shop still. By then it had been replaced with a band saw but they still had it hooked up for emergency use ( one of the brothers that owned and worked the shop said it looked better than just cutting a piece of steel for someone with a torch (but he always added not by much) not the straightest of cuts but sure beat doing it by hand.
 

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It's a good thing that I live so far away, my shop would look like your tool shed, with the thought that one of these days I could probally use that, Thanks Thomas. That was what Mr. Johnson thought, better hang on to that, I will use it one of these days.
 

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After seeing further pictures, I think you are right, there isn't much of that bench that can be saved. As is, it is a very large decorator piece at best.

However, it would be a shame to see some of the more unique details of it disappear - the profile on the legs (fancy for a utilitarian bench) and the vice hardware. I also imagine that some of the wood could be salvaged and milled for reuse provided it isnt too bug munched.
 
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Just thinking outside the box a bit. I think of what is left, the top is the part with character and the surface where work was done. I'd say strip the add on shelves, scrap the legs, remove the top surface and make an awesome piece of wall art after cleaning it up a bit. Or a great background for a shop sign for the guy with the old school wood shop.
 
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After more time than I care to disclose I've finely reached A.T.P. The entire time I've been reading all I could think about was how simply amazing it would be to be you, or even visit your slice of heaven. I love it all, the property, cars, work you've done, everything is just beyond belief for me. One thing that stuck out at me was the famous anvil, my father has a Hay Budden 202# he had gotten from my grandfather which I was able to squirrel away from him this weekend when I went home to visit. I used it quite a bit growing up but never put much thought into it until I started doing some metal work in my garage. I looked up the serial number and it was built around 1919 as best I could tell.

It may be a little forward, but I'd like to volunteer to be the caretaker of the Keller Saw and that Cabinet Makers Bench if you would still have them when I can make it up that way the week of Thanksgiving. I'd even buy you supper at the Philo Tavern if you could allow me to visit/tour that amazing space you have. One last set of questions, did I miss the story on how you came to be the caretaker of the TR4 (I hope I'm remembering right), as well as the Corvette top saga? Have a wonderful day and I'm eagerly waiting on more goodies to read from you and your amazing wife!

Welcome to the family jbmatth. You sound like you're going to fit right in here! Our Hay Buddens are very close in weight and age. I'm sure Rick would like to see a picture of yours, he's very fond of them you know. I'll keep you posted on the disposition of the bench but it might be going to a new home, not sure yet, stand by.

The Keller saw on the other hand finally emerged into the light.













It looks to be extremely complete and undamaged except for some slight rust on the base cabinet. There are no dents in any of the sheet metal base or belt guard anywhere that I could see either. It's extremely dirty but that's to be expected. That's oily dirt and dust which kept rust at bay.



A service plate is off one of the motor covers with some wire hanging out so as a guess, the motor had some problem. Whether it runs I know not but all in all it looks like it has great restoration potential. This could really be an outstanding vintage tool that could also be useful.



For now it is stored in a dry area with a concrete floor. It's not that large so storing it for a while is not a problem. Send me a PM with additional information and we'll work on some adoption material for you.

As for the TR4 and the Corvette top saga you haven't missed a thing. I'm just that far behind in posting here. Thanks for the reminder though and once the Tool Shed project is concluded I'll get to those, how's that?

About the Tool Shed removal...



...so it begins.

Thomas
 

jbmatth

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Mr. Payne,
I've sent you a PM and here are a couple of pictures of the Hay Buden, I was mistaken, it is a 203 lb. anvil not 202 lbs. I'm too young for my memory to be fading on me. Keep up the good work and I look forward to hearing from you.
JB
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These are the as found pictures, I'll be cleaning it up over this weekend, but there is no snow so I will have to wait to take it for a romantic walk in the moon light. :lol_hitti
 

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Looks like 208 lbs to me. And this is a much better time of year to be going for moonlight walks with the harvest moon and all. Watch your back!

Chris
 
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