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Re: Lou Bingham '28 Roadster - Restoration Update

We're back from a week visiting our long time friend, Bonneville old salt racer, Lou Bingham.

To recap a little, remember this car? (shown without body panels installed)





When we got to Lou's house last week, he opened his garage door and look what was sitting inside!





...in the very same garage he built the car in 58 years ago! How cool is that!!! :beer:

Thomas


This brought a tear to my eye.
Only the best of friends do these sort of things.

Nuts aka Doug


PS, your Chevy II is the sexiest car you own.
Vettes....... pbbffftttttttt
 
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I want to thank Thomas for a tip that saved me a mess, and possibly disaster.

When I was touring the COTU last month, Thomas showed me how he disconnected the ground at the battery on all of his old cars when they were stored inside his garages. Furthermore, he noted "I never tighten down the ground terminal when I put it back on, in case I need to disconnect the battery quickly." He then relayed a story about how that saved his son's car once.

Well, I thought it a good tip, so I implemented it on my Impala. This morning, I went out to start it up, after putting the ground terminal back on (without tightening the clamp, of course). As the car warmed up, I tidied up the interior, unplugging the cigarette lighter power adapter and flipping the ash tray shut.

When I did that, a dime which I had left resting on the lip in front of the opening dropped down into the hole. I noticed a few sparks, then the engine died. I flipped open the tray several times, trying the get the dime out, but to no avail. When the dime started to glow red hot....I knew I had a real problem.

I lept from the car, raced to the hood and ripped the untightened ground terminal from the battery. When I got back to the passenger compartment, it was filled with gray smoke, and I found this:0ea3aa7f69df30a5a3f2f4281505d321.jpg

It had smoked a good three feet of large gauge wire. I further confirmed there was no fuse in this circuit, just a wire straight from the battery! Obviously, I will be going through the wiring this weekend to look for other such buffoonery.

Thomas: thank you once again for the visit, and the pro tip that saved me a lot of trouble!
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That Thomas is the man!! Now to wait in anticipation for the "trouble" him and Lou have been up to!! Can't wait, I know he teased us with a little "Gus"sing up but you know there will be more!!
 
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PS, your Chevy II is the sexiest car you own.
Vettes....... pbbffftttttttt

Hello Doug, well I won't argue with you about the Chevy II vrs any of the Corvettes. Eye of the beholder and all that. Each vehicle brings a certain something special to the table I'd say. On the drag strip the Chevy II is king for sure! :)

I want to thank Thomas for a tip that saved me a mess, and possibly disaster.

When I was touring the COTU last month, Thomas showed me how he disconnected the ground at the battery on all of his old cars when they were stored inside his garages. Furthermore, he noted "I never tighten down the ground terminal when I put it back on, in case I need to disconnect the battery quickly." ...........

Well, I thought it a good tip, so I implemented it on my Impala. This morning, I went out to start it up, after putting the ground terminal back on (without tightening the clamp, of course)..........



..........I lept from the car, raced to the hood and ripped the untightened ground terminal from the battery. When I got back to the passenger compartment, it was filled with gray smoke...........


.......Thomas: thank you once again for the visit, and the pro tip that saved me a lot of trouble!
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Wow Mike, just Wow!! You sure dodged a bullet on that one!! :scared: Many thanks for your post. Perhaps it help someone else out. Either leave the negative battery cable clamp loose or install a battery disconnect switch, most especially if the car retains it's original wiring and Bubba has spliced into it.

I can't take credit for that tip however. A dear friend, Max Dilley now passed away, told me about that tip years and years ago and I took it to heart. He was a career firefighter and related how they would get called about once a week to a car fire. Many of them were older cars that, had the battery been able to be easily disconnected would have been a relative non-event like yours, rather than lose the whole car and perhaps the garage too.

Next tip, carry a small 2 1/2 to 5 lbs fire extinguisher in your older car, always. My preference is Halon or Halotron but dry chemical is better than nothing. It could very well save your car and more.

No doubt Max is please and smiling down on us right now, knowing he saved another car from disaster. His legacy lives on! A firefighter couldn't ask for more. Thanks again Mike for your timely post. Look forward to your next visit.

That Thomas is the man!! Now to wait in anticipation for the "trouble" him and Lou have been up to!! Can't wait, I know he teased us with a little "Gus"sing up but you know there will be more!!

Indeed there is fish369, coming to a G J thread soon, honest. I've completed some items of interest, just have to find time to post.

I've been gone playing hooky, just finished up driving the entire old Route 66 from Chicago to the Santa Monica Pier near Los Angles with some friends.



The cars beside my new Corvette were a 1966 GT350 Shelby Mustang and a 1966 Chevelle SS 396. All cars had manual transmissions. :thumbup:



It's roughly 2,450 miles one way. My friends drove it one way, I drove it round trip, close to 5,000 miles in 2 1/2 weeks.





We were almost always the only one's on the old road.







We drove virtually all of the old Route 66 that was open and available to drive. Some surfaces were terrible but overall not too bad.



Look closely, my co-driver was my fireplace mason Steve. The trip out took 14 days. I drove it home in 1 1/2 days, 34 hours. Steve was a real trooper. More about this trip later if you'd like.

Thomas
 

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What a fantastic trip to drive Route 66. It's a lifelong dream of mine and I for one would love to hear more about your trip, the whole experience and how much of the original route is still open.

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What a fantastic trip to drive Route 66. It's a lifelong dream of mine and I for one would love to hear more about your trip, the whole experience and how much of the original route is still open.

Bob



I second this. Growing up in Tulsa as a kid, route 66 was always there. I just took it for granted. I have began digging on history and gathering maps so I can hopefully make the same trip you just did.

I've wandered off on some short alignments once when I headed out to California. And of course driven the section between Tulsa and OKC. But need to head to Chicago and start there.

Would love nothing more than to hear admit that adventure of yours!

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That is a great tip on the neg. battery cable, I don't remember that from my first time reading the thread...I mean I remember everything about reading this thread and am completely prepared for the t... Oh never-mind, thanks for the tip nonetheless.

Tomas,
The trip on Route 66 looks like a fun trip, I've driven a few hundred miles on it in several sections but never the entire distance in one going. Also my math isn't as good as it used to be but 2,450 miles in 34 hours is a great pace. :3gears:

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"More about this trip later if you'd like."

Come on Payne, don't be coy!! Let us in, we want more!

PS, that drive is even on a "young guy like me" bucket list!
 

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Wow Mike, just Wow!! You sure dodged a bullet on that one!! :scared: Many thanks for your post. Perhaps it help someone else out. Either leave the negative battery cable clamp loose or install a battery disconnect switch, most especially if the car retains it's original wiring and Bubba has spliced into it.



I can't take credit for that tip however. A dear friend, Max Dilley now passed away, told me about that tip years and years ago and I took it to heart. He was a career firefighter and related how they would get called about once a week to a car fire. Many of them were older cars that, had the battery been able to be easily disconnected would have been a relative non-event like yours, rather than lose the whole car and perhaps the garage too.



Next tip, carry a small 2 1/2 to 5 lbs fire extinguisher in your older car, always. My preference is Halon or Halotron but dry chemical is better than nothing. It could very well save your car and more.



Thomas

Yep, that's the other reason I posted on your thread--hundreds of eyeballs scan it regularly and it would help propagate a good technique.

Regarding your second tip: had one in the car before I rolled out of Des Moines on the day I picked her up. Not a halon, but as you said, better than nothing.

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Very cool experience you got to have with friends on Rt 66. I'll join the chorus of folks interested in more details!

Cheers to Max--may his advice continue to propagate through the Vortex!

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I also got a reproduction rubber Willy's floor mat that Lou and I installed last fall. It doesn't lay completely flat so I wanted it to have the winter to conform to the floor as best as possible before finishing the installation.




Sandbags...



or bags of lead shot if ya have any laying around ( I only have one, but it weighs 225lb so it doesn't get moved much).
 

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I will join in on the "more Route 66? Yes please!" theme. Bucket list item for me, would be great to see recent photos and stories from someone who just traveled it. Especially from a skilled story weaver like Thomas!!
 

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Yea, we want more 66.

My rt 66 story, we drove it from Flagstaff AZ to Oatman AZ. Around Seligman we were passed by newer Mustangs that had “kiwi’s on 66” on the trunk of each stang. We took pics of them & they of us. We were in the 49 Caddy in my avatar.

My wife checked for a Facebook hit for them. There was a pic of our car they posted.
 
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Thomas

There is currently 16 Aussies in 8 hired Mustangs doing that trip from LA to Chicago, taking 19 nights. I met the guy that organises it when I sat next to him on a plane out of a regional airport in February. He does it twice a year in May and September.

When the cars get to Chicago the west bound bunch get out and an east bound group get in to drive the cars back to LA.

Irene and I are doing the run in 2021.

Lyndon
Yep - still lookin’ in....
 

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Hi Lyndon.

2021 sounds like a good time to visit the COTU. You're less than a stone's throw away from us somewhere between Pontiac and Springfield, IL. I'll put you/Irene on our calendar.

Chris
 

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Great story about the RT66 trip; would definitely like to hear more about it! My sister lives in Berwyn, IL 2 houses off the road near the beginning. She says she sees lots of older/classic cars heading west this time of year. Great tip on the battery cable; although it doesn't work on GM's brilliant side post design. My Chevelle has had a disconnect switch since I acquired it in 1971. Fortunately have never had to use it except to pass Tech at the drag strip
 
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Thomas,
Add me to the growing list of folks who need more details on the Route 66 trip! When I finally finish my 55 Bel Air Wagon, we plan to do the same trip. We were thinking about shipping the cars out on rail (and ride along with them, if possible), then driving them home, at a relaxed pace. Not sure how your friends transported their cars, but I'd love to know.

As always, this thread continues to deliver joy in all forms! Also, thanks for the electrical tip!

Regards,
John

Here's the wagon, still waiting for me to finish the interior and glass...

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I've been gone playing hooky, just finished up driving the entire old Route 66 from Chicago to the Santa Monica Pier near Los Angles with some friends.

It's roughly 2,450 miles one way. My friends drove it one way, I drove it round trip, close to 5,000 miles in 2 1/2 weeks.

We drove virtually all of the old Route 66 that was open and available to drive. Some surfaces were terrible but overall not too bad.

Look closely, my co-driver was my fireplace mason Steve. The trip out took 14 days. I drove it home in 1 1/2 days, 34 hours. Steve was a real trooper. More about this trip later if you'd like.

Thomas
Thomas, your speedy return trip seemed unusual until I noticed on my calendar that your 44 coincided with your return from the 66. Well done!

I have fond memories of Route 66 but it wasn't a side road when I saw it. It was 1955, the year before the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 created a 41,000-mile “National System of Interstate and Defense Highways.” Back then Route 66 was a well-maintained artery that passed close to a bunch of National Parks and Monuments in the southwest. Pretty sure we hit all of them, including side trips to Carlsbad Caverns and the Grand Canyon. The only heavy traffic we hit was heading out of LA on the Santa Ana Freeway. We were used to heavy Labor Day weekend traffic on the Taconic State Parkway heading back from Vermont to Long Island so the seven-mile backup to Disneyland that hot summer day was no big deal to us but was front page news in LA. I'm pretty sure a 7-mile backup on the Santa Ana Freeway (I5) is front page news today as well -- I think it's called unusually light traffic.

In other words, I'd love to hear more about your Route 66 trip.
 
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Route 66 Trip; In The Begining

Here is some preliminary background information on the trip. Planning ahead is key to a trip like this. This is what we did.

I had been talking with a friend (Norm) in California about doing this trip for several years. He had a friend (John), also from Cal. who had just retired and wanted to do the trip as well. We all got together early last spring to work out the logistics. Some considerations were time of year due to weather. Didn't want to cross the Mojave Desert in really hot weather etc.

We all agreed to a plan where I suggested they ship their cars to me and I would store them in the shop. Later they would fly into Chicago and I'd pick them up and bring them home and we'd begin the trip early the next day. If there were any problems with the cars during shipment, I have a fairly well equipped facility to make repairs as necessary.

Meantime we developed a loose itinerary to work from that would provide for us to see places that were important to each of us. We added and dropped places during the trip as we went. It also gave us a loose timeline to work from. Below is the worksheet I used in the car during the trip. Since I was picking them up in Chicago, we drove to the start of Rt66 at Lake Shore Drive and visited a couple places on the way home. That way we avoided Chicago stop and go traffic in the vintage cars. You'll note from the work sheet that the next day we went from our house to the Old Joliet Prison to start. Miles are on the right.








Research at home before the trip...





...included using these maps which are available as a set at Amazon and other places. Since we wanted to drive as much of the old road as possible...





...we found these maps were our best source for details on how to navigate to and stay on the old road, where the old road was drive-able and where it wasn't. If you followed the turn-by-turn description it generally worked well.....but not always. John's navigator had an iPad which provided for a bigger screen than a smart phone and worked well with Google Maps to help stay on the old road.

I'll tell you right now, in many places the signage for Rt66 is poor or non-existent. It took all of us to navigate, look at various maps or phone apps and be willing to admit we'd taken a wrong turn and backtrack. That was part of the fun and challenge.

We wanted to drive as much of the...





...old road as possible. We were definitely off the beaten path, driving The Mother Road! :thumbup:

For next time the fun begins as...



...the cars show up at the shop...



.....before sunrise! :wtf: Please check back.

Please note, Part 2 of Route 66 can be seen on page 600, post #11998. Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 
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What an adventure. You should've had your own camera crew, this would've made a cool documentary. Like the show Ewan McGregor did, Long Way Round.

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
 
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What an adventure. You should've had your own camera crew, this would've made a cool documentary. Like the show Ewan McGregor did, Long Way Round.

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.

I have seen it and the follow up shows they did riding in Africa. Both are outstanding series.

John is a professional photographer. He brought some impressive gear to document the trip, but it's all still work, no video. I'll be including some of his work in future posts.



The trip was primarily for fun and yes it was definitely an adventure. Highly recommended. :bounce:

Thomas

PS, Chris you're still the only girl for me! No worries!! :)
 
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Re: Route 66 Trip; In The Begining

For next time the fun begins as...







...the cars show up at the shop...







.....before sunrise! :wtf: Please check back. Thanks everyone.



Thomas


I can't wait to hear the next installment!!

Jeff



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I have seen it and the follow up shows they did riding in Africa. Both are outstanding series.

John is a professional photographer. He brought some impressive gear to document the trip, but it's all still work, no video. I'll be including some of his work in future posts.
Can't wait:thumbup:

Ewan crashed a lot in Africa..lol
 

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Looking forward to the story. It will bring back memories of trips in the same area back in the 60’s and 70’s.
The planning for the start is interesting

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Great start Thomas! Planning is certainly key, especially if you have any sort of schedule to try and keep. So many distractions...

For any of you interested in Route 66 and what's going on with it on a daily basis, I recommending reading Ron Warnik's Route 66 News blog daily. I've been reading it for years, and it will be a great help when it's time to plan my trip.

https://www.route66news.com/
 

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Thomas,
Quick question - how/why did you decide on taking the new Corvette? Obviously you had the ability to choose several different cars so I'm wondering why that particular one.

Thanks for posting details.


Brian
 
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Gotta ask: how’s Gus?

Good for you asking about Gus. He's still Mr.Wonderful as always. What a trooper! Lou and I will be getting him in tip top shape for the Seymore 4th of July parade. He really shines there. I'll get more about him this month.

Thomas,
Quick question - how/why did you decide on taking the new Corvette? Obviously you had the ability to choose several different cars so I'm wondering why that particular one.

Thanks for posting details.


Brian

Good question Brian. First of all, it was Route 66 so it just had to be a Corvette, right? The '66 convertible with the top down, has zero storage space and I needed luggage space for 2 people. I also wasn't up for a luggage carrier on the trunk lid like Tod and Buzz used. Your luggage would always be subject to weather (rain) that way.



So it came down to the '66 coupe or the C7. While my heart told me how cool it would be to have 3 cars touring Route 66 and all 3 were 1966 model year cars, my head said otherwise. A couple of reasons swung it to favoring the new car.



First off, we'd be driving the old road and in places the surface was terrible. Rough, gravel strewn, pot holes galore. If I knew the gang would be willing to forego driving those areas and transition to the Interstate that would have helped. But they had their heart set on driving the old road and I just didn't want to punish my old coupe with that. The number 2 reason, I was driving round trip while they were only driving 1 way. That's a bunch of miles in a short time span to put on an old car. Hard on the car and hard on me. Had I gone alone and been able to travel at a more leisurely pace, driven the Interstate more or just better roads in general etc. the '66 would be seriously considered.

As it turned out in NM and AZ, there were spots that were almost too bad for the C7. In a couple of areas I literary stopped the car on the road, got out, walked ahead and surveyed what would be the best way to drive around and through some massive pot holes. Not fun times for me or the car. Taking it slow and careful, no harm was done, but at the time I was so thankful I didn't bring the '66. Our maps noted the road was going to be "rough" in those stretches and they weren't kidding. :eek: By myself I wouldn't have driven them.

In the end, for this trip, the new car was the right choice. I drove the entire way out and of the 34 hours coming back, I drove it all but 1 1/2 hours worth. Once home I felt great, no road fatigue at all. The '66 is a classic and wonderful but it can't hold a candle to the C7 for driving high speed for hours and hours at a time on the way home. I bought the C7 for just such trips as this. Long distance touring and it is superb for that. Chevrolet has really done themselves proud with this car.

More is in store.

Thomas
 
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Hi Thomas,
Impressive garage and GREAT resto on the old woodworking machines.

-What type of paint did you use on them: Rust Oleum spray, XO Rust, or industrial brush on paint? How well has it held out?

I've been using Rust Oleum rattle cans on my machines and they look great at first but it has not been durable and chips easily even with careful metal prep and primer before spraying.

Nicely Done,
Tact7
 

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In the end, for this trip, the new car was the right choice.

Thomas
Agreed! At our age I'll take comfort over cool anytime - as long as it's a Corvette or Camaro!:lol_hitti
Thanks so much for sharing this with us! Planning one ourselves in the next two years and this was invaluable help. :thumbup:
 

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Great planning for the Route 66 trip and taking as much. Of the old road is what I would prefer as well. I'll have to get a set of those maps for future planning. Good tip.
 

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Your Grand Tour brings back so many memories. I did it in 1963 in a 1961 station wagon with two toddlers on the way west. A too long, emotionally agonizing, story.

Great choice, Thomas. That C7 is built for high speed touring. The C8 will be too.
 
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