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MG David, that part of Texas that “sticks up” is known as the panhandle. The only large city in that region is Amarillo. The small strip of Oklahoma north of the Texas panhandle is known as the Oklahoma panhandle.

Thank you bs_aggie for that. Yup, Amarillo is about it, not much else except cattle and oil wells. We did stay in Amarillo for one night and had dinner at...



...the The Big Texan. Home to the...



... Free 72oz (2,041g) steak dinner if you can eat it all in 1 hour. Want to know what a 72oz steak looks like?



Norm had to get one. It isn't served on a plate, it comes on a platter and note, it overflows the platter! That is one hunk of beef - heart attack on a platter!! :eek:



During dinner these two fine fellows came moseying (that's a Texas phrase, there are many others) up to the table playing some Delightful Texas Tunes (DTT). They were able to play every song request we made, really remarkable gift of music.

Overall Texas is like the state motto: "Texas, It's A Whole Other Country".

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Thomas,
I'm really enjoying the recap of your trip, one I'd like to make some day. I've traveled many miles of Rt. 66 but never the entire way. Please tell me in Seligman, AZ you ate at the Roadkill Cafe.

JB

JB, we not only ate dinner at the Road Kill Cafe - "You Kill It, We'll Grill It"...






JG


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...but the next morning we had breakfast there too! Scrumptious!! :thumbup:



The motel was right next door to it.

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Thomas, I've been silently following along on your journey and have been very impressed by your estate in which you've built.

I enjoyed the Rt 66 pics as my wife and I have been through several of those areas, especially between Williams, AZ and Amarillo and Canyon, TX.

Like you I was very disappointed with the Cadillac Ranch roadside attraction. My wife and I were on our way to an RV/Jeep rally in Palo Duro a few years ago and I had on my bucket list to stop and visit the Cadillac Ranch based on pictures from several decades prior. It was a HUGE disappointment to see what it has turned in to.

Also stopped by the Big Texan for dinner one day with some friends from Texas that said we had to go for the experience. There were several people there that day attempting to eat the big dinner. Holy cow that's a LOT of food.

Again, really enjoy the estate that you and your wife have created for yourselves.
 

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I visited Amarillo in 2010 with a few friends, we of course stopped at Cadillac Ranch. It was dry and we knew the cars had seen better days going into it. I was personally not disappointed, at that point the graffiti had become part of the story I'd grown up hearing. I would have rather the cars be in great shape but they would have more than likely rusted away by now.

Speaking of the Big Texan Steakhouse if you look at this link of winners of the challenge you may see a familiar name at 8632. It was a very large meal and tasted better than you would expect for a 72 oz. steak.

Looking forward to more stories,
JB
 

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bs aggie, I have heard of Amarillo. If I remember correctly, there was a song about it.

Yep, you're probably thinking of "Amarillo by Morning" by George Strait. It's the most well known song that mentions it. Besides George's song and the Big Texan Steakhouse, Amarillo's other claim to fame is Palo Duro Canyon. It's the second largest in canyon in the US. Also a popular stage musical, "Texas" is performed during the summer in a large outdoor amphitheater in the canyon.
 

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Yep, you're probably thinking of "Amarillo by Morning" by George Strait. It's the most well known song that mentions it. Besides George's song and the Big Texan Steakhouse, Amarillo's other claim to fame is Palo Duro Canyon. It's the second largest in canyon in the US. Also a popular stage musical, "Texas" is performed during the summer in a large outdoor amphitheater in the canyon.


Amarillo Highway by Robert Earl Keen ;) :3gears:
 

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Depression era shop, they made do with what they had. That is why nothing was thrown away.

I will resume admiring on page 8, post #140.
 
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Depression era shop, they made do with what they had. That is why nothing was thrown away.

I will resume admiring on page 8, post #140.

Ah ha, I presume another new member has been sucked into the vortex! A most warm welcome nadogail. This would be a perfect thread to start reading with the "shelter in place" order that covers so much of the world right now. Hope you enjoy the journey ahead of you.

For the regular readers, here's a sneak preview of a big project I just finished last week.



Look closely at the ceiling. This is in the basement of the new house and you'll see the grid has been installed to finish the ceiling. It was then covered with...



...these tiles. It turned out satisfyingly well as you'll see. I just need to finish posting about Rt.66 and then we'll get into the wood shop lighting and ceiling project, the last big project of the home construction. Stand by for that. Many thanks to all.

Thomas
 

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Those of us who own recently built Corvettes will know why you had a battery powered tire inflater along for your trip.

Nice job in documenting your journey. The pictures of you following the Chevelle warm my heart.
 

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Thanks Bruce, this is how I finished my garage floor at our house.



I'd always planned using porcelain tile, so all the various doors were installed knowing that the floor height would eventually be about a 1/4" higher than the bare concrete. Here we're laying out spacing to get a feel for any pattern plus to see how we'd start the layout.



After it was emptied out, it was thoroughly cleaned with Dawn dish washing soap and a stiff bristle brush to clean any oil or grease spots.



Then using my electric power washer...



... it was rinsed clean using hot water from the sink faucet. A couple of box fans aided drying the floor.



Any place we saw a crack on the floor this membrane material...




... was applied over the crack. That would serve as a "bridge" across the crack if it should get any bigger.



There weren't many cracks and it's doubtful we had to do this since they were small and tight, but I decided it couldn't hurt. It would insure that if the cracks did open up more under the tile, the membrane would bridge the crack and not transfer the crack to the tile.

It is highly recommended to wait at least 1 year before tiling to see where cracks might develop so they can be dealt with. My concrete had been installed over 3 years ago and was very stable.



This is the mortar we used.



Then it was a matter of just starting to lay the tile after a reference line was snapped on the floor.



I used 12" X 18" (30cm X 46cm) off-white tiles that had a slight color variation going through them. The plywood seen on the floor you might remember...



... is the covering to my material lift, elevator shaft to the basement. Note the hoist above it suspended from the ceiling.



Centered on each overhead door...



...I used these darker contrasting tiles.









The floor was very flat that just had a gradual slope to center floor drain.



This is how the floor slope near the drain was managed. The slotted metal cover was cleaned up...



... and then raised about 3/8". To raise it, some JB Weld was fashioned as a spacer around the outside edge, under the cover and longer stainless steel screws were used. They were Philips headed screws so no tremendous need to clock them. :bounce:

Once the tile was all laid, it was grouted, then cleaned...





...and 4" (10cm) vinyl base trim installed all around, even in the storage closets which were tiled as well.









I personally think having the floor tiled really finishes off the appearance of the garage. It conveys a feeling of completeness. An added bonus is porcelain is easy to keep clean and is extremely durable. It can easily hold up to having floor jacks and jack stands placed on it. It's tough stuff! Much more durable and long lasting than just about any epoxy paint material.

For more information there are several threads about porcelain garage floors in the "Flooring" section of Garage Journal. They are worth a look. More is coming here, please check back. Thanks everyone.

Thomas


Re-catching up on your mega thread Thomas... yes, I love porcelain tiles in shop floors, it's so good. Nicely done, and well thought out pattern.
 

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Yep, you're probably thinking of "Amarillo by Morning" by George Strait. It's the most well known song that mentions it. Besides George's song and the Big Texan Steakhouse, Amarillo's other claim to fame is Palo Duro Canyon. It's the second largest in canyon in the US. Also a popular stage musical, "Texas" is performed during the summer in a large outdoor amphitheater in the canyon.
I suspect David was thinking of "Is this the way to Amarillo" written by Neil Sedaka, originally recorded by Tony Christie, later covered by Peter Kay. One of the most annoying songs of all time!
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I suspect David was thinking of "Is this the way to Amarillo" written by Neil Sedaka, originally recorded by Tony Christie, later covered by Peter Kay. One of the most annoying songs of all time!
Pete

For those who have not had the dubious pleasure to hear this marvel of song craft:


...and Peter Kay's wonderful visual spoof:


Thanks Pete; now this song will be stuck in my head allllllll day. :lol_hitti

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I suspect David was thinking of "Is this the way to Amarillo" written by Neil Sedaka, originally recorded by Tony Christie, later covered by Peter Kay. One of the most annoying songs of all time!
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Ha! Maybe so given that ya'll are from the UK and I'm in Texas. I've never heard of that one. George's song always has and will get a lot more airplay here. ;-)
 
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.......

Speaking of the Big Texan Steakhouse if you look at this link of winners of the challenge you may see a familiar name at 8632. It was a very large meal and tasted better than you would expect for a 72 oz. steak.

Looking forward to more stories,
JB

Before we leave Amarillo and The Big Texan I simply must give a shout out to JB for his accomplishment, eating that steak dinner within 60 minuets. It's not only the steak you must eat...



...but all the accompanying "fixins" (another Texas phrase) seen circled above that come with the steak.



And you get to perform this gastronomical feat while seated in the center of the restaurant on this elevated platform with the countdown clock in the background ticking away. All no doubt to the shouted, polite encouragement of the numerous restaurant guests! JB, I salute you sir! :bowdown:

Thomas
Those of us who own recently built Corvettes will know why you had a battery powered tire inflater along for your trip.

Nice job in documenting your journey. The pictures of you following the Chevelle warm my heart.

Quite so Terry and tire plugs and cement too! To those who might not know, C7 Corvettes (2014-2019) do not carry spare tires from the factory. It's a weight and space saving measure. The cars are equipped with run flat (RF) tires instead that are suppose to be good for 50 miles driving without damaging the rim. 50 miles won't get you very far out west as you've seen, so I was being proactive and was prepared to repair a simple puncture if one occurred. Any sidewall damage and I'd have been out of luck. Fortunately John was the only one who needed to use the compressor.

BTW Terry, what's the word on your C8?

Thomas
 

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Speaking of the Big Texan Steakhouse if you look at this link of winners of the challenge you may see a familiar name at 8632. It was a very large meal and tasted better than you would expect for a 72 oz. steak.
JB

Before we leave Amarillo and The Big Texan I simply must give a shout out to JB for his accomplishment, eating that steak dinner within 60 minuets. It's not only the steak you must eat...


Impressive feat to say the least. If you look closer you notice his time was less than half of what was required and the steak, when eaten, roughly doubled his body weight.

Kudos to you JB!!!

(the gal who holds the record is insane...)
 
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Ha! Maybe so given that ya'll are from the UK and I'm in Texas. I've never heard of that one. George's song always has and will get a lot more airplay here. ;-)
George who?



Sorry, that was a bit of a personal joke. Back when I was working (I used to represent the UK in a number of IEC standards committees) I arrived in a Tempe, AZ hotel late on a Saturday. All the roads around the hotel were closed to normal traffic to reduce the risk to crowds attending a country music festival at an adjacent stadium. After having travelled all day, I needed beer, so headed to the bar, and with said drink in my hand, asked a couple of young ladies who was playing at the festival. When they told me George Strait, I'd never heard of him - he doesn't have a very high profile over this side of the pond. So, in disbelief they shouted "Whaaaat - you never heard of George Strait?", as I tried to explain that country music over here meant Glen Cambell, Johnny Cash, and ... um... maybe a few more. That, together with the British accent, made me enough of a curiosity that people kept buying me beer, which was just fine by me!
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For those who have not had the dubious pleasure to hear this marvel of song craft:


...and Peter Kay's wonderful visual spoof:


Thanks Pete; now this song will be stuck in my head allllllll day. :lol_hitti

Thomas

Sorry about that Thomas! I hope it's only a day. :lol_hitti
Blame Neil Sedaka.
Pete
 

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I visited Amarillo in 2010 with a few friends, we of course stopped at Cadillac Ranch. It was dry and we knew the cars had seen better days going into it. I was personally not disappointed, at that point the graffiti had become part of the story I'd grown up hearing. I would have rather the cars be in great shape but they would have more than likely rusted away by now.

Speaking of the Big Texan Steakhouse if you look at this link of winners of the challenge you may see a familiar name at 8632. It was a very large meal and tasted better than you would expect for a 72 oz. steak.

Looking forward to more stories,
JB

Where did you put that? Could you walk afterwards?
 
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I liked Neil Sedaka. "Breaking Up is Hard to Do", "Laughter in the Rain", Love Will Keep Us Together." Probably more of a favorite among females?
Not sure if he'll continue touring. He just turned 81 on March 13.

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Rt.66 Part 9

Seligman, AZ is a rather interesting place and another classic example of what happened to towns along old Rt.66 with the opening of the Interstate. Once traffic on Rt.66 diverted to the Interstate, businesses slowly started to close and all that is left now are virtually empty shells of buildings, catering to what little tourist traffic remains.

Come along on a drive along Rt.66 through Seligman as seen below...


JG

Before they decommissioned the AZ portion of Rt.66 in 1978, there used to be on average, 9,000 vehicles a day through Seligman. Now you can swing a cat standing in the middle of main street and not hit a passing car.















This is Angel Delgadillo's barber shop. We'll come back to Angel in a moment. He's an important figure in Rt.66 lore. He witnessed Rt.66 for over 60 years as seen through the window of his barber shop, situated a mere few feet away from the Mother Road.













Seen above is Juan Delgadillo's (Angel's brother) famous Snow Cap Drive-In food eatery. They've been in business for over 66 years.



We stopped to sample some ice cream and glad we did! Highly recommended!



Now you get to meet Angle himself. Seen here he was 92 years old and still sharp as a tack and with a quick spring in his step. We had the pleasure to chat with him for about 1/2 hour. What a treat! He is also referred to as the "guardian angel" of Rt.66. He is generally credited as the main individual who founded the Historic Route 66 Association of Arizona. Later on, 8 other states founded their own Rt 66 associations whose stated goal is the preservation of Route 66. With Angel's urging, AZ now budgets money to maintain and place signage along historic Rt.66. Google his name: Angel Delgadillo and you'll get a wide range of information and video's about him and Rt.66.

Leaving Seligman behind we drove off west bound once more.



IF DAISIES ARE YOUR...



...FAVORITE FLOWER...



...KEEP PUSHIN' UP...



...THOSE MILES-PER-HOUR...



...BURMA-SHAVE



For the go kart enthusiasts here, any idea what this once was?



I spotted GUS's long lost cousin...



... a 1950 or so I believe. That's a fate that GUS will never have. He's will be always cared for and much loved!


JG


JG

A very common sight. If abandoned and discarded vehicles are your thing, Rt.66 is for you!

Still more on the way. Hope everyone is safe and with your significant others. Take care.

Thomas
 

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The cars are equipped with run flat (RF) tires instead that are suppose to be good for 50 miles driving without damaging the rim.

Without damaging the rim, sure, but the tyre (OK, tire) isn't going to be much use. How much does a replacement cost over there?
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Without damaging the rim, sure, but the tyre (OK, tire) isn't going to be much use. How much does a replacement cost over there?
Pete

Pete protecting the rim is important. Replacement OEM rims cost in the neighborhood of $500 + per rim, depending on design. Quite correct, once a RF tyre, oops - tire, has been driven on, it is highly recommended to replace it, around $330 + per tire. The idea being I suppose, is to not strand you in place with a flat tire. You can still limp home or to a repair facility without damaging the more costly rim. The whole concept of no spare, run flat tires is not without controversy. Everything is a compromise.



Corvettes are not overly large cars and the tires they wear these days are big and bulky. To complicate matters more, the front and rear tires are of different diameters.



Here is my trunk, packed with gear for 2 persons on a 2 week trip. I would lose at least 2/3 of this space if I carried a spare. Modern day tire technology has come a long way toward eliminating tire failures. Handling and ride quality issues aside, no spare is a compromise I am willing to make. I compensate by bring along repair items that would be needed for the most common type of tire problems. It worked for this trip, close to 6,000 miles (9656 km).


Judging the type of suspension and the foot pegs, I would guess that started out as a four wheeler/quad bike.

Yes of course, I see it now Roger. Understand, I'm from the go kart generation in the 1960's and that's how I'm oriented. I've barely ridden ATV's and I'm not attuned to them at all. Many thanks for solving that mystery.

Thomas
 

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Just finished page 23, only 581 to go, at this point.

As a kid in Anchorage, Alaska, I remember an "Old Timer" with a drafty shop with lots of "Good Stuff" piled in any place it would fit.

Thanks for the work you have put into this.
 

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Quite so Terry and tire plugs and cement too! To those who might not know, C7 Corvettes (2014-2019) do not carry spare tires from the factory. It's a weight and space saving measure. The cars are equipped with run flat (RF) tires instead that are suppose to be good for 50 miles driving without damaging the rim. 50 miles won't get you very far out west as you've seen, so I was being proactive and was prepared to repair a simple puncture if one occurred. Any sidewall damage and I'd have been out of luck. Fortunately John was the only one who needed to use the compressor.

BTW Terry, what's the word on your C8?

Thomas

Thomas,

I am sure you know (But for the benefit of non-Corvette readers) C5 (1997–2004) and C6 (2005-2013) also have no spare and runflat tires.

I passed on the first run of the C8. I want a different engine. The rest of my Corvettes (including a 1969 I bought over the summer) have higher than base engines. I sort of like higher performance engines. I think a nice one is coming, or at least I am counting on it.

They are making a nice Blue/blue that fits my collection well, and I hope that color combination continues into 2021 and however long it takes to get to the next engine.

Terry -- Who has more Corvettes than storage space for them.

Stay safe y"all.
 

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Without damaging the rim, sure, but the tyre (OK, tire) isn't going to be much use. How much does a replacement cost over there?
Pete

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Depends on the brand and how much performance you want from the tires (road or track). But around 300 to 350 each USD. The rear tires are larger in diameter and width so they are at the higher end.

Availability of those tires is another matter. The one flat I got on my C6 (2008 Z06) happened outside Des Moines Iowa on a Sunday afternoon. It was not repairable damage. There wasn't a tire store open in that town at that time. I had to leave the car, rent a car at the airport (again, the only car rental open) and return to the car later in the week. In fairness that was the only incident in 92,000 miles (157,715 Km) and it was my fault for not inspecting the tires more carefully.

Even where there are tire stores many are not equipped to install tires of the sizes involved.

Terry
 

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Thanks Thomas, another great installment. I've lived vicariously through your photos, even with your brief passing through Utah. Honestly, you have to come back one day with Chris & spend some time "smelling the flowers", there's a whole 'nuther world here that you haven't seen, regarding wide open sights that can't be seen anywhere but Mars. :bounce:
Terry -- Who has more Corvettes than storage space for them.

Yeah? Care to elaborate...with photos? :bounce:
 

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Pete protecting the rim is important. Replacement OEM rims cost in the neighborhood of $500 + per rim, depending on design. Quite correct, once a RF tyre, oops - tire, has been driven on, it is highly recommended to replace it, around $330 + per tire. The idea being I suppose, is to not strand you in place with a flat tire. You can still limp home or to a repair facility without damaging the more costly rim. The whole concept of no spare, run flat tires is not without controversy. Everything is a compromise.
Corvettes are not overly large cars and the tires they wear these days are big and bulky. To complicate matters more, the front and rear tires are of different diameters.

Have the US car manufacturers ever supplied that foam gunk for filling punctured tyres? It was quite popular in Europe for a while, not sure if it still is or not. The manufacturers liked it because it was lighter than a spare wheel, so it helped reach the mpg and emissions targets, but their customers hated it because most tyre fitters would refuse to repair a tyre with foam in.
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Rt.66 Part 10, Best Spoof Of The Trip

Westward from Seligman en-route toward Kingman, AZ, just west of Peach Springs, we came across...



...Hackberry General Store, situated by the side of the road, nothing else around it.





If you look at the walls you'll see money pinned on them. As we went further west, we saw more and more of this strange custom of pinning money on establishment walls and ceilings. I'd never really seen this before going on this trip. A bit strange to me.

Hackberry's also had a public service poster displayed inside...



...which I'm confident Chris would agree, was very civic minded and commendable of them. A most noble gesture I'd say.


JG

The sign reads, " 300 Miles Desert Ahead, Good Luck". If, 80 years ago, you were departing toward California in your clapped out Model A and saw that sign, it had to be a little sobering.



Kingman had a splendid museum...



...that I considered one of the best of the trip. It was also key to a spoof I had started months before the trip. When our group first met months ahead to layout the ground work of the trip, I casually mention that, to commemorate the opening of Rt. 66 in 1928, they held a great Transcontinental Footrace that went the length of Rt.66. That race had been won by a gentleman by the name of Andy Payne who just happened to be my "Great Uncle". Of course that's an outrageous lie but I couldn't resist the practical joke. Andy Payne did indeed win the race...


... but he was no relation to me at all. The trap was set.



Touring the museum, when we came to this wall displayed, I innocently announced, "oh look, there's Uncle Andy that I told you about earlier." Well they insisted I get my picture taken next to his and for the rest of the time in the museum they talked excitedly about that remarkable feat and my good luck to have such a skillful relative. Upon exiting the museum I fessed up and told them the real truth. They had all bought it hook, line and sinker and we had a great laugh about it. I had been waiting the whole trip for this. Mission accomplished. :bounce:

The next section of road, from Kingman to Oatman was some of the most beautiful of the trip.






Easy for a modern car to traverse, but a 1920's or '30's or even '40's car and this being desert, not so much.



Driving a highly capable, modern sporting car, who won't look forward to this upcoming section of road. Fabulous.

Oatman, AZ...



... is an old mining town that, with the mine played out, and no Rt.66, depends entirely on tourist trade.



Oatman's stores and restaurants had spectacular displays of real money pinned to the walls. That's money wall paper. It was everywhere, amazing.


JG

Oatman also had wild but tame, burros that roamed the streets and even found their way into some stores on occasion.



No one seemed to mind but...



...when they wandered near the Corvette, my parental instincts kicked in!

Leaving Oatman were some more terrific driving roads...



...full of switchbacks. Note the sign and suggested speed, 15 mph (24 kph)...



...or this one, 10 mph. Inside the Corvette...



...you can see the steering wheel is positioned almost 180º which you'd never see driving on a modern highway.



In this photo note the position of the steering wheel, the speed, 22 mph, and the road ahead, top right, is a blind curve. Fun stuff!





I never got tired of the scenery.

During the trip, every so often...



... we'd encounter a closed portion of the road that was suppose to be open and have to back track, but that was part of the fun and challenge.

The next installment will be the last segment of the trip. There's more in store so please don't give up yet. We do indeed eventually find the Pacific Ocean. Thank you everyone for all the positive vibes on this thread.

Thomas
 

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No one seemed to mind but...



...when they wandered near the Corvette, my parental instincts kicked in!


Thomas

That's funny. I was the same way when a heard of bison wandered around my Jeep last year in Yellowstone NP while the wife and I had wandered off on a hike. Returned to find the herd had surrounded our Jeep and was taking their sweet time moving on. Made me a bit nervous and anxious but didn't want to intervene.:lol_hitti
 

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A friend and his wife retired to Lake Havasu City.
There are wild burros in the rural areas there as well.
She hit one one evening in a small car, one of the last generation Cougars.
Luckily, she wasn't injured, but that was the end of the Cougar!
 

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Usually, every bar or restaurant that has money pinned on the walls/ceilings has a different reason. Some say its because a person finished a challenge, so they sign their name with a note, and nail the dollar up. Others just let you do it to mark that you were here. Go find a spot and nail it up. And yet other places might say its in memory of a regular customer or something like that. That's been my experience at least.

Thanks for the update Thomas. Love the scenery and journey. Someday Ill round up the boys and head out in the same kind of fashion. Can't wait to see what vehicles we have then.
 
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