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monkers

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Hello guys, I have a question about the roof on a garage Im gonna be using. I dont own the building, but I can use the garage but Ill have to fix the roof. It is a lean to type of roof, that butts up to a trussed roof, hard to explain, but it forms a "funnel" if you can follow. Why someone would do this is beyond me. I know the right way would to be remove the shed type roof and use trusses in the opposite direction of the other trussed roof. I dont want to invest that much money in this application. Is it possible to use metal flashing to flash where they join, then ice and water shield, then rolled roofing? The shed roof leaks very bad now and Im certain some plywood needs to be reaplaced. Will this work in this instance or am i just waisting money? Thanks guys
 
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monkers

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Ill try tonight to get a photo, yes it makes a valley where the two meet, the shed roof should have been a pitch roof in the opposing direction of the trussed roof, that's normally how its done but not in this case.
 

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Valleys are common. It sounds like you have what is called a butterfly roof. It is not real common, but is no big deal ether.
 
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monkers

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how do I upload a picture from my Droid phone, I snapped one now dont know how to get it here.....
 

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Ill try tonight to get a photo, yes it makes a valley where the two meet, the shed roof should have been a pitch roof in the opposing direction of the trussed roof, that's normally how its done but not in this case.

im pretty sure this is the condition you are talking about in the below picture, it is a standard practice and is fine as long as it was done right

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monkers

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content://media/external/images/media/108 (2654.7 KB) I dont know if this will work or not, I took a picture with my phone, then emailed to my PC....
 
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monkers

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ok thank you, I used the photobucket thing but wasnt sure it i did it right, did it show up when you clicke on it or did you fix it for me? If you fixed it, thank you for your help
 
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If the roof leaks bad, the roof sheathing maybe rotted and beyond repair. People do that **** to be a tight ***, knowing that eventually there will be a leak problem. Somebody is problem letting you use the garage to get you to fix it.
 
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I hope this clears it up, sorry my explanation was lacking, guess thats true what they say, a pictures worth a thousand words! Anyway, you can see the "shed" roofs (left side of photo) and the way they meet the "trussed roof", it makes a funnel, and you guessed it, it leaks bad, the shed roofs have rolled roofing on them and the trussed roof has shingles. Any help or suggestions would be great, thank you.
Craig
 

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Wow I don't know what to say about that, you need to put a cross pitch in there to keep water from pooling In that valley. If you are going to redo the roofing do it right. Take some dimensional lumber and rip it down at a slope of atlas 1/4" per foot and pitch that middle roof toward the driveway of the backyard put some sheathing on it an re roof the whole thing
 
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blkhonda, yes, I know that is the proper way to do it, I must say I have never seen something like this before.......and nuttsgt, the person who owns the garage is not really concerned with the leakage, they dont keep anything out there, it would be a concern for me because I have a couple lathes, Bridgeport, 3 welders and more that I wouldnt want water dripping on, they are content with it the way it is.
 
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monkers

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Thank you everyone, and I apologize for the confusion at the start
 

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I presume the valley (NOT A FUNNEL) is sloping towards the back to run the water away.
Whatever the valley is made of, it needs replacing.
Not hard to do and I think other than that, the roof should be fine.
Not a so unusual design for the roof, but maybe just poorly built.
 
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Justanoldguy, the valley slopes to the front and that piece of plywood appears to be in need of replacement though not many more look rotten. I will second the poorly built statement, what would be the best way to flash this valley? Ice and water shield, metal flashing, both? Thank you for your help. I have never seen a roof built like this before.
 

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Justanoldguy, the valley slopes to the front and that piece of plywood appears to be in need of replacement though not many more look rotten. I will second the poorly built statement, what would be the best way to flash this valley? Ice and water shield, metal flashing, both? Thank you for your help. I have never seen a roof built like this before.

put ice and water over the entire middle section for sure and in each of the valleys between the roofs
 

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Before you get carried away on the technical side you to have a good talk with the owner on the dollar side.

As said, that is just done wrong.

And it is going to cost some bucks just to patch it, let alone correct it.

How long are you going to be there?
Garenteed lease length or month to month?
Who pays for the material?
What about labor costs?
 
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Thanks for the info guys. I know it isn't the correct manner to repair it. I will be here 2 years. My friend and I will do the labor. I will probably buy the materials, the owner will probably pitch in a little. And I am not in the position to buy my own house/garage but this will enable me to at least start doing side work again.
 
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