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nice collection cruiser, i just cut a deal for a short and long handle chrome pair for 48.99shipped. may have done a little better but i think it was okay. a 1/4 and 3/8 black pair just sold on ebay for about 35.00 shipped so we're in the ballpark. do you like the black handle ? i don't have any black hand tools, only impacts. if you hang out you might get to peak at some of my toys.

sk - you did fine. The only reason anyone did better on ebay was that Proto discontinued the big dawg a year and a half year ago and folks were dumping big dawgs in anticipation of the new model. It was a buyers market for a while and many of us Proto fans cleaned up. I don't know what is going on now as I got my fill of good deals at the right time. And yes, I like the black handles; less expensive and they foo-foo match the impact sockets. :lol_hitti
 
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cruiser and anyone interested, even you nissancrawler. just a few pics of some sk peices. two shots of my top chest till. two of my drivers,1/4, 3/8, 1/2 and 3/4. one of my sk made craftsman and one of my second roller with 1/4 - 1 1/2 raised panel wrenches and 3/4 socket set. the top till has some other stuff in it but still about 90% sk. my metric is in a seperate drawer. do you think the big dawgs will fight in there?:lol_hitti
 

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Everybody says SK is so great, yet I can't sell a near new sk wrench set for less than half of new price to save my ***.

Nissan - you know I always value your opinion. But, my Craftsman/SK wrenches are from the early 90's, and they are excellent in fit and finish. They have been beat unmercifully by me all this time from when they were new to now. So I think we must make a determination as to the time period you had your problems so we can analyse when SK started dropping off in quality. This will help all of us avoid those crappy sk's vs. getting good deals on the older time frame good stuff in my opinion.
 

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Everybody says SK is so great, yet I can't sell a near new sk wrench set for less than half of new price to save my ***.

do you want to buy this POS crappy,no good wrench set that i hate because it says sk on it? uummmmm...... no, i guess you talked me out of it. drop the attitude and use them. you just might find that they are likable, or if you hate them so bad send them to me. i'll pay the shipping!!!!!
 

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But Nissan I'm a cheapskate if I don't get it for around 1/4 of new price I don't buy. :)
Haven't you read all the threads where the ag mech's complain about how cheap all the farmers are?:)

What one are you trying to sell? Metric or SAE please tell me it's a deep offset 13mm box.

Whoops forgot need it to be long pattern too. So yeah I'm cheap picky and demanding!

It's a full set of sae box ends.

Nissan - you know I always value your opinion. But, my Craftsman/SK wrenches are from the early 90's, and they are excellent in fit and finish. They have been beat unmercifully by me all this time from when they were new to now. So I think we must make a determination as to the time period you had your problems so we can analyse when SK started dropping off in quality. This will help all of us avoid those crappy sk's vs. getting good deals on the older time frame good stuff in my opinion.

These wrenches are from right around 2000. They haven't broken or anything like that, I just think for the price they are, they're no better than craftsman. It's the sockets that I really think ****.

do you want to buy this POS crappy,no good wrench set that i hate because it says sk on it? uummmmm...... no, i guess you talked me out of it. drop the attitude and use them. you just might find that they are likable, or if you hate them so bad send them to me. i'll pay the shipping!!!!!

I did use them, then I bought a 30 year old set of Snap-On from Moparhound, and replaced my brand new SK's with them.

You miss the point, everybody talks about how good it is, yet I couldn't sell my 1/4" or 3/8" socket sets for the price of base Craftsman, couldn't sell the pliers, can't sell the wrenches...it doesn't add up.

Yes, I hate them. Just like I hate channellocks and like Knipex. That doesn't mean there's not a reason for somebody that likes channellocks to buy a pair from me, get it?

Personally, I think SK is a waste of money, and would either buy Craftsman new, or look for used Snap-On, but...there's lots of supposed SK fans.
 

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Dang I thought you had sold that set or traded it off. I have SAE box in SO, MAC, Cornwell and Armstrong plus most of a Proto set.
 

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nissan,

I know that you have been here a while and I just found this site but there are a LOT of tools on the market and we all have our favorites. I like SK tools, have used them since the early 70's and have a box full now. If you can't sell them, do what I have with a lot of my craftsman tools. Find a young kid that is into cars and can't afford decent tools. Give him the set and pay your interest in cars (and future car nuts) forward.

You would be surprised at how much they will appreciate the gift and they will become a friend for life. 10 years from now you will not miss the wrenches or the money but that friendship with the young kid will have grown into something much greater than money. What is nice is when one of the young kids you helped in the past comes up and tells you that he is paying part of his debt forward and introduces you to a wide eyed kid wanting to know what you are doing.
 
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I'm losing $15,000 of income this year, not giving anything away. I'll cut them up and turn them into a shop clock if I don't get rid of them.
 

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Nissan, Is this down turn hitting you folks that hard? I knew it was bad here in the hills but, we have always been hard scrabble types. (dirt poor and poorer)

I kind of thought the aviation guys might not be that bad off.
 

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Nissan, Is this down turn hitting you folks that hard? I knew it was bad here in the hills but, we have always been hard scrabble types. (dirt poor and poorer)

I kind of thought the aviation guys might not be that bad off.

4600 were laid off from work, and one entire service center closed down. I'll be fine, I've stayed within my means, but I sure won't have much extra money for landscaping/remodeling/etc.
 

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I'm losing $15,000 of income this year, not giving anything away. I'll cut them up and turn them into a shop clock if I don't get rid of them.

Mighty sorry to hear that Nissan. $15,000 is a lot of pay to lose.

Our governor is proposing that our pay be cut ~4% each year for the next two years and our insurance rates go up by 8% a year the next two years.

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I've got a lot of SK Wayne wrenches and like them fine but I also paid only $2-$4 for each of them on ebay. I have a few SK full polished wrenches and like them a lot except they are shorter than my Bahco, Williams Kobalt and others. I have a SK 18' offset palm control ratchet I got for free when SK was giving them away as a promotional deal. It is a fine tooth and works really good but the offset feels awkward to me. Perhaps if I used it as much as a regular ratchet it wouldn't.

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wow, i was out for a couple hours. this sure went sideways after that. first of all, most farmers are cheap. do you know why? i'll tell you. if you are a mechanic, how many jobs do you do in a day? in a year? doctor, how many patients in a day? in a year? pick almost any profession, how many times do they get to perform? as a farmer i get one shot at a harvest. one performance per year. i deal with floods, winds, droughts, insects, disease, frost, breakdowns, most all out of my control. i put nearly all of my life savings on the line every year to do what i can to support my family. i get 30 , 40 , maybe 50 times in my career to perform. how many times do you get to prove yourself. i could be wiped out in a heartbeat. i have gone backwards in the past and lived on virtually nothing. i have not attacked anyones profession so don't attack mine because you think i'm cheap. next nissan crawler, i don' feel bad if you can't landscape or do home improvements. you have a job. i will feel sorry for you if you can't feed your family. furthermore don't talk to us like we are idiots because we like our tools. if you hate your sk tools that much you should not have bought them. did you try any of those tools first? to spend that much money on something you dislike so much was foolish on your part, not mine. none of us made you do it. it seems like you have more issues than just a brand of tool you don't like. sometimes if you don't have something productive to say maybe you shouldn't say anything. thank you garage journal for letting me vent!
 

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sk farmer I was the one saying farmers are chep. A wise crack at a ag techs comment on here a few months back.

Nissan grew up on a farm so he knows where you are coming from. If we don't sell out dad and I will have 2k acres planted with a few head of black angus in the rough fields.

Dads gettig on in years and my medical is slowly getting worse. So we are ready to drop the whole ordeal. A local is looking at buying us out if it goes through I'll be completely retired and we will be hopefully at least out of debt.

I think you read my comments wrong so this explaination.
 

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wow, i was out for a couple hours. this sure went sideways after that. first of all, most farmers are cheap. do you know why? i'll tell you. if you are a mechanic, how many jobs do you do in a day? in a year? doctor, how many patients in a day? in a year? pick almost any profession, how many times do they get to perform? as a farmer i get one shot at a harvest. one performance per year. i deal with floods, winds, droughts, insects, disease, frost, breakdowns, most all out of my control. i put nearly all of my life savings on the line every year to do what i can to support my family. i get 30 , 40 , maybe 50 times in my career to perform. how many times do you get to prove yourself. i could be wiped out in a heartbeat. i have gone backwards in the past and lived on virtually nothing. i have not attacked anyones profession so don't attack mine because you think i'm cheap. next nissan crawler, i don' feel bad if you can't landscape or do home improvements. you have a job. i will feel sorry for you if you can't feed your family. furthermore don't talk to us like we are idiots because we like our tools. if you hate your sk tools that much you should not have bought them. did you try any of those tools first? to spend that much money on something you dislike so much was foolish on your part, not mine. none of us made you do it. it seems like you have more issues than just a brand of tool you don't like. sometimes if you don't have something productive to say maybe you shouldn't say anything. thank you garage journal for letting me vent!

Umm, I never once said you were cheap OR mentioned your profession, where are you getting this from? Do I know why farmers are cheap? Well, since I was born and raised farming 3,000 acres, and had 4 generations before me farm, yes, I know it quite well. I'm from the same state you live in, no less.

I never said you were an idiot for liking them, I said that *personally* I don't think they're worth the money, pay attention. I also don't think Channellocks are worth the money, many people here do, that's the way it goes.

I never asked you to feel bad for me, where did you get that from? It was suggested (and was a good idea, had I money) that i give them to somebody starting new, I explained why I couldn't, that's it. As for the family, the only family is 3 cats, and when money was tight before, they got fed while I waited until I was paid the next day, so don't worry about my "family".

My choice was to buy those wrenches, or not get my education. It was not up to me what tools I had at college. You bought the "provided" set, or didn't attend.

Please show me one time on this board where I have called somebody an idiot for liking a brand of tool, if you can find it, I'll eat my words.

I'm not sure what your problem is with me, but get over it. You like SK, I don't, big deal.
 
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Here are some pictures of some of the SK goodies I just bought for my new box. All of my sockets as well as a lot of my wrenches and a few ratchets/extensions are SK. I just spent the last few hours doing the exhaust manifold gaskets on my 04 F250 Powerstroke and all the tools worked flawlessly, the ratcheting flex head wrenches really came in handy quite a few times. I really don't see how anyone could hate a wrench or a socket that much but I also love all my channel locks and Knipex pliers so to each their own I guess:headscrat
 

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Nissan I think he got my comment about myself confused with you.

I'm sorry about that confusion. I was trying to joke a little bit and I believe I confused the issue.
 

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my big sk issues were ratchets and sockets, not wrenches.

The ratchet heads were too thick, and the deepwell sockets had a ring part way up inside them that wouldn't allow the socket to go all the way on a stud, so you couldn't get to the nut. It might be ok with regular nuts, but wouldn't work on jap nuts since they use a smaller socket size for the same diameter stud, which is what I usually work on.

the sockets also wore out easily.
 
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the cheap statement about farmers was made by parramudduck, i knew that. i never said that nissan made it. i didn't mention him until later. i hate them. the sockets really ****. waste of money. supposed sk fans. those were comments made by nissan. no he didn't say idiot. does that sound like he thinks anyone who uses sk is smart? if you don't like them tell us why. those statements don't telll us anything. be glad you have an education. don't be bitter beacause you don't like the tools. i don't like everything i had when i was younger either. but those things have value because they are part of who i am. if you have done well be happy. no need to be so bitter. if i am wrong somebody tell us so.
 

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the cheap statement about farmers was made by parramudduck, i knew that. i never said that nissan made it. i didn't mention him until later. i hate them. the sockets really ****. waste of money. supposed sk fans. those were comments made by nissan. no he didn't say idiot. does that sound like he thinks anyone who uses sk is smart? if you don't like them tell us why. those statements don't telll us anything. be glad you have an education. don't be bitter beacause you don't like the tools. i don't like everything i had when i was younger either. but those things have value because they are part of who i am. if you have done well be happy. no need to be so bitter. if i am wrong somebody tell us so.

try reading two posts above yours, it's been posted repeatedly on this board why I don't like them, and I did again.

How am I bitter? You jumped on me, I hadn't said anything about you, good grief.
 
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Actually I said I was a farmer and I was cheap. My family has farmed for as long as we can trace back. By the way part of my family came to America in the 1500's. The rest was already here.

There was a discussion a while back about people watching you work. One of the ag guys made comment about the farmers being cheap and acting like they knew how to be mechanics. Well I have dabbled in ag/Heavy construction equipment for most of my life. So I said he could bet his **** I would demand to watch him especially since a young hot shot managed to bork up a one year old combine doing a simple repair. We are still in legal on this and it still isn't running 2 years later.

Have you ever had to decide between seeds or meds for a sick kid? Or if you can make it through the winter with out having to butcher a beef that you kept to breed or go hungry? I know exactly what the weather, taxes, fuel prices, EPA and all the rest can do. So I squeeze my money as much as I can. And hope the cards fall right so I can do it again next year.

My nick comes from working as a nurse and paramedic plus farming plus doing heavy equipment work. All just to help my family keep this thing going a little longer.
 

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Back to the topic. I have a pile of SK Wayne stuff that I received when my grandfather died. On 1/2 inch wrench is frozen. I haven't really worked on it at all, but it is on my list.

I just bought some 1/4 and 3/8 Palm Drive ratchets with sockets. Good deal and they seem nice to me. Solid and tight. Better than my Craftsman all thing being equal.
 

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parramudduck you get it,i don't know if nissan does .in post 38 and 45 he states he dislikes those brands. his right, but tell us why. not until later when he is called on it does he say why. and then after that he backs off and says he only dislikes certain things. someone asked for advice when they started this thread. i don't care if you want to tell us what you think. but tell us why up front. you can't assume that everone knows why you don't like those brands.even if you said it before. the person who started this thread is new here. so am i. it is our resposibility to put out good relevant info, not rhetoric.
 

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Everybody says SK is so great, yet I can't sell a near new sk wrench set for less than half of new price to save my ***.

You have hit the nail on the head about why S-K is a good deal. They are good quality tools and are still under the radar like Proto/Plomb was 2 years ago. You can get some good quality S-K tools for a reasonable price. If you are buying tools to use and not to sell they are one of the best deals going.:thumbup:
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Sorry for the rant. I lost three steers yesterday to a pack of dogs where people dump them out around here.
 

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parramudduck you get it,i don't know if nissan does .in post 38 and 45 he states he dislikes those brands. his right, but tell us why. not until later when he is called on it does he say why. and then after that he backs off and says he only dislikes certain things. someone asked for advice when they started this thread. i don't care if you want to tell us what you think. but tell us why up front. you can't assume that everone knows why you don't like those brands.even if you said it before. the person who started this thread is new here. so am i. it is our resposibility to put out good relevant info, not rhetoric.

I never said I disliked them in post 38. I did in post 45, in response to YOU. Seriously, get over it and quit making things up.
 

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My favorite S-K's. The S-K Wayne versions.

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Okay, I think I know what the problem is with sk. Nissan is right. His sk purchases from his purchase time frame were substandard and it matches others on this board that say the same thing. BMW had sk quality problems around the same time too and had pics on the board to prove it. So, when was the time frame that sk started going down? And have they brought themselves up to par right now? I can't opine as my latest sk tools are all from the early 90's and they are fine.
 

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Maybe from the very end of the 90's to mid 2000's? It's hard to say for sure since there are so many NOS items surfacing any more. I don't know a reliable way to date SK production. But thats the time frame I started hearing complaints about quality slipping.
 

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Its been 7 or 8 years ago, but scored my 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" socket sets new in plastic cases for $333.33 in a "Triple Play" promotion around Christmas.

Century Trading in Van Wert, OH, where I bought my sets, sent me their most recent flyer. SK socket sets in blow molded cases, that contain both deep and shallow, metric and fractional, are on "Spring Special", March 23-28.

1/4" $89.00
3/8" $99.00
1/2" $179.00

(Total for all 3: $367.00 + shipping, etc.)

I know the 1/2" can be had in your choice of all 12 Point, or all 6 Point, don't know about the others.

I can't get their website to work, but here is a link to a picture of the 3/8" drive 47 piece set:

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Phone # 800-558-5232.
 

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We had S-K back on the farm when we still had it, it was good enough to toss on the the old F4000 and drag in the mud and **** and it would get you out of a jam. Makes it good enough. As for something i would put in my regular in shop box i don't think so, there ratchet heads are WAY to big and i had issues with sockets striping. As for there wrench's, they cut into my hand to much i like a nice fat wrench like craftsman and some Mac one's.

after looking over how big the farms are you guys have mine seems so so small only 200ach :lol:

This is the same as the tractor's we used to run less the kid, just grabed a link off goggle real fast

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after looking over how big the farms are you guys have mine seems so so small only 200ach :lol:

This is the same as the tractor's we used to run less the kid, just grabed a link off goggle real fast

I think a lot of it has to do with the quality of the land, and what you can do per acre. I was shocked to see how small farms and equipment were in kansas when I moved here. 1970 gleaners with 20' heads here...back home, those sat in rock piles. We ran an r62 with a 36' draper head. They can pull two crops/year off the same land here though, it makes a big difference.

These were our main two tractors:
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My wife picked this S-K 1/2" dr. at a garage sale the other day for a few bucks. I've never seen a ratchet with a pin instead of a ball in the square drive.
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My wife picked this S-K 1/2" dr. at a garage sale the other day for a few bucks. I've never seen a ratchet with a pin instead of a ball in the square drive.
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My relative perspective may be off, but is that 3/4" drive?

Some 3/4" stuff comes with a pin, some with a pin and a detent ball on the other side.
 

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My relative perspective may be off, but is that 3/4" drive?

Some 3/4" stuff comes with a pin, some with a pin and a detent ball on the other side.

No, it's definitely 1/2" drive. I put an ext. on it to try it out & had to pull real hard to get it off. Of course impact ext's. or sockets with the little holes on the side will work ok but I don't understand the reasoning behind this design.
 

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I've actually seen them when I was learning to wrench in my HS's metal shop.

Also, I have some impact sockets, and now some newer Wera sockets, that have the hole for the through pin. It seems like they are still making sockets with the through hole, but not the tools as much as they used to.

...and I would definitely get SK, but I would never pay full price. That shouldn't detract from its usefulness, but there is the fact that competition is fierce on them and getting deals is very easy, likely as some have said, due to lack of price protection. Additionally, the Taiwan stuff thrown in there, even if quality, reduces the pricing further.
 

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S-K did (does) make good tools, when I was a student at TSTI, back in the early 70's it was S-K that offered the student discount, and starter kit for tools. What soured me on them was I bought a S-K paddle type 3/8" air impact, which was a complete POS, and the auto parts store that was their warranty representative, wouldn't do anything about making it right. Since then, all Snap-On, with very few exceptions, and never a look back at S-K, even for the tools I take to work, and put on expenses.
 

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My wife picked this S-K 1/2" dr. at a garage sale the other day for a few bucks. I've never seen a ratchet with a pin instead of a ball in the square drive.
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These type of ratchets are FOD (foriegn object damage) ratchets and are used in the military/Aerospace industry. The idea being that sockets cannot fall into jet engines (for instance) and cause damage, these are mainly used in 1/4 & 3/8" drive.
 
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