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Sears/K-Mart closing 100+ stores

kythri

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Good luck in your state. In Ohio, all but the manager makes minimum wage, and not a penny more. Managers are what? 1/10th of 1% of that 2.1 million? Statistically, I doubt that makes my post "blatantly false".

Poppycock. Where's ANY evidence to support that? Please find some.

The IBIS World numbers wouldn't shift the average pay up the amount it did if it was 1/10th of 1% of the 2.1million employees that were the only ones making more than minimum. I guarantee you'll find no evidence to support your claim that only the manager makes more than minimum.

As for my town, it's Portsmouth, Ohio. I would be more than happy to give you a tour of Portsmouth, Sciotoville, Wheelersburg, and New Boston to show you all the shuttered businesses.

That's 4 towns, not one. You said, and I quote:

StevenBiars said:
the 200 or so businesses Walmart has put out of business in my town

A shuttered business does not prove that Walmart is responsible, number one. Number two, it should be incredibly easy to produce a list of even half of the number you claim, were it not hyperbolic exaggeration.

Ohio's minimum wage goes up 30 cents to $7.70 per hour on January 1st. After taxes, that's a ****** take home. On top of that, the 20 or so Walmarts I've been to (OH, KY, PA, WV) have almost always had an employee bitching about having to clock out to keep from hitting 40 hours, less they be subjected to the wrath of the manager, and a possible firing.

I havne't been defending the wage, but overtime is a big thing in any industry - most don't like paying for it, and most employers have strict policies about it. No big surprise that Walmart doesn't want to pay overtime in most cases.

Regardless, if you want to ***** about Walmart, go start a thread in Free Parking, not hijack a thread about Sears. Also, we really don't need you to start a third thread about Sears, since you're already posting in here.
 
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When your employer starts paying you in scrip, we'll see if you start complaining. Walmart alone employees over 2,100,000 people at minimum wage, with no overtime (and you risk getting fired if you hit a true 40 hours). Although that's not really the point, you might want to brush up on economics, fellow buckeye. How many manufacturing jobs has our own state lost? 30m+ and counting in the US alone. There aren't a whole lot of .ways out for a many people.




That costs money, and when many people can barely afford rent/house payment and food, there isn't a whole lot of money (or time) left to pursue tangible skills.



Not really. I would have preferred to shop at the 200 or so businesses Walmart has put out of business in my town. The next town over is the same way, as is the next over from it.




Wrong again. Management decides. Why hire 1 skilled employee when you can hire 15 idiots? That seems to have worked well for Walmart, since they've grown quite profitable doing so. On the bright side, fortunately there are still some real stores that actually have employees that know a ratchet from a wrench or a hammer from a nail. The "free" market only decides the the rate of consumption. Higher wages tend to lead to more consumption or a higher realized price. Lower wages (overall) lead to lower realized prices for products or services. It's simple economics that you seem to have inversed.



I've got a friend from Sweden that works at a gas station. He works full time at a service station, receives *free* healthcare and a college education (includes graduate school if he chooses to go), and is earning a relatively great pension. He pays 5% more in taxes than my stepfather, not to mention that Sweden has an enormous sovereign wealth fund. The per-capital income is much higher as well.

So what is my point? Greed gives you an economy racked with inequality, and ignorant drones. Fairness eventually drives everyones quality of living upward.
Wow . Sounds like you need to move to Cuba. Far away from the principles that built the greatest country on earth. Why dont you go occupy a park. Your socialist aspirations have made you blame society for any shortcoming life has to offer. You are not owed anything just because your were born in america you must earn your success. Don't make excuses, make a way. Entitlement mentalities like yours are destroying the country we live in. 2 words ..... personal responsibility.
 
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maybe sears will save themselves with this amazing piece of machinery?
its got...... wait for it.......
cup holders!

Meh. My "Yard Machines" MTD riding mower is a 2004 model, and it's got a cup holder/beer holder on it.

Comes in rather handy when I want a drink of water/soda/whatever.
 
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