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Securing 220 Wire to Copper Pipe

67srdeluxe

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I'm getting a heat for the garage put in. The fuse panel is located at a lower portion of our house. That being said the wiring has to be run down to the panel through our unfinished storage area. The individual doing the wiring is routing the 220 wiring and securing it in some places with zip ties to copper pipes. Is that OK or should the wiring be run through the floor joist? I sure could use some help as this is new to me.
 
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mrb

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dont do that. the vibration from water flowing through the pipe will eventually saw through the insulation of the cable (he is using cable and not individual wires right?) the cable needs an independent means of support.
 

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Bad idea! If it rubs through from the wear of the copper moving, you have just electrified everything hooked up to copper or running through it!
 

mrb

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Bad idea! If it rubs through from the wear of the copper moving, you have just electrified everything hooked up to copper or running through it!

not if everything is properly bonded. what 'should' happen is it will short, the fault should trip the breaker supplying the cable, while probably blowing a hole in the copper water line at the same time.
 

hillbilly1

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Bad idea! If it rubs through from the wear of the copper moving, you have just electrified everything hooked up to copper or running through it!

If the plumbing is properly bonded, this will not happen, the overcurrent protection will trip, though any short could burn a hole in the pipe, then you would have another major problem! Of course this is assuming it was properly installed, and everybody knows where assumptions get you!
 
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No way to justify this under any circumstances,it is hack work and should be rectified.Discuss/argue all you like,it is just not right from an electrical,plumbing or simply a workmanship viewpoint.:headscrat.
 

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at least they aren't attaching it the pipe with bailing wire, but it might as well be.
 
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67srdeluxe

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Thanks everyone for your advice. I can take care of the getting the wiring off of the cooper pipes. The area is an unfinished basement storage area. Can the 220 be atch'd to the bottom of the floor joists or should holes be drilled holes in the joist to route the wire? This is all new to me and I'm on the wrong side of this one.
 

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What kind of wire are you using? Assuming it is romex it needs to be run threw the joists to provide "protection".
 
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