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drmarkr

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Bought this place about 2 years ago. The detached shop had been put up in two phases and looked like this when I got it. The photo is one I got from the seller, so all the junk in/around was his:

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Notice that the carport has a half-wall that was open above. There is actually another room that runs the width of the back of the building, which, BTW, is 40x40.

This is one from the side showing the old compressor shed. That's our RV hanging out of the carport.

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Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures of the inside of this thing before I began....what the former owner had done was to put some styrofoam insulation up, covered by a sheet of drywall, and then drive drywall screws right thru the R Panels. If you walked too close, it'd tear a ditch in your skin.

After much consideration, including entertaining demo'ing the thing and starting over, I decided to rip off all the existing siding, and just reskin the damn thing. The roof was good, except for the whirlybirds and the cooler jack, so I pulled and replaced those sheets also.

For the carport area, we just covered the wall from ground to eaves, and then guttered the entire building. On the front of the carport, we installed a 12x10 overhead, along with a commercial 48" man door. For comparison, here's the "old" exterior again:

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Followed by the new exterior:

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Quite a difference. Notice the cooler installed on the roof of the compressor shed. It's ducted straight thru to the opposite side, as you'll see in the interior pics.

Ok, now we had an intact, new, pretty skin. But some challenges on interior finish. Particularly that block half-wall. This pic shows how we framed from the block up to the eaves, and also shows how we did the balance of the interior. We took steel studs, cut tabs a couple of inches from the ends, and bent them out before screwing directly to the girts. Enabled batting to slide in like wood studs.

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Another pic showing the copper for air lines, as well as an exterior hose bib, along with outlets for 110 and 220. Note the small number of sheets of rock ready to go up.

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At this point, we pulled wire for outlets every 8 feet, speaker wire for all three rooms, cable for TV, and put multiple compressed air (copper!) bibs in every room. The back room, which is 10 ft deep by 34 wide was designated for storage. To maximize this, we posted in a mezzanine and installed pull down stairs for access. Looking up into this area here:

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You can see the stairs at the far end. Here's a shot looking up the stairs:

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Another showing some of the storage:

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The room that was the carport is 25 wide by 35 deep. This is a pic from the man door looking back. Note the evaporative cooler ducting, the large access to the back storage room, and, of course the Race Deck flooring. Actually, it's MotoFloor from Costco. I used laminate floor padding under all the tiles, and this has worked great to eliminate the 'clicking' as you walk.

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Another shot looking at the old kitchen cabs I used from the main house remodel. You can also see some of the slat wall I put up for wall storage. Got a bunch of this for free when a buddy was pulling tons of it out of a big commercial remodel he was doing. You'll see more in the following shots of the woodworking room....

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Here's one looking back at the man door:

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Ok, here's a few shots of the woodworking room. I haven't finished the setup in here yet. Just got the machines spread out and slat wall up. Several boxes even left to unpack in here, along with doing the dust collection system.

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The lighting is all 4' tandem T-8's, 48 feet worth in each room. Walls are semi-gloss white. The ceiling is batting, with aluminum laid under wire supports. I don't recall what they called this, but it sure turned out good from both a functional as well as an aesthetic standpoint.

My thanks to everyone on here for their great ideas and suggestions, even though they weren't necessarily directed to me. I don't think a shop is ever really finished, but at some point I felt like I needed to take some pics and post them to pay homage to those that have gone before me. Or something like that.....

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Great looking build. I guess sometimes it's easier to just start over. Something to be proud of. Noticed the bikes and trophies also. A lot of work and fun there.
 
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Two teenagers and myself that race. It was pretty hard to work around all the construction, but it is nice to have it pretty much finished.

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Thanks for the comments everyone. Slowly getting more organized.... except I've now decided to go ahead and get a small wood lathe to do some pens and things.

Question for you guys that have worked metal and wood. I've never used a wood lathe, but I was a machinist in the pre-CNC days. What are the limitations of doing wood turning on an engine lathe?? Maybe I'll just get the engine lathe I want and do the wood on that? Any input??

Also, anyone living within driving distance of Tucson that wants a few sheets of slatwall is welcome to drop by and I'll help you load them up. I need them out of the way. They're 4x8 and the medium wood color like the pics above.

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I still have a few sheets of slat wall to be rid of....anyone need any in the Tucson area??
 

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Amazing transformation! I'm curious about your decision to rehab rather than demo and build again; specifically what drove that decision? Did you do a rough cost comparison? If so, I'd like to know what you came up with and what your final cost was. I would imagine the rehab permitting costs are a whole lot less besides being less aggravating when dealing with the building department. What were some of the 'surprise' headaches dealt with along the way? Congratulations again on a very slick rehab.
 

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Funny ending to this build thread - a Real CLIFF-HANGER!!

Did anyone ever come get the slat-walls? Why didn't you answer Omphaloskeptics questions? Did anyone else ever reply further? Why no more updates??

It's like it got cut-off before it was done!
 

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Very impressive shop, and just as equally impressive before and after photos ! I really thought you tore the old garage down and built a new one. Awesome job !
 
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Funny ending to this build thread - a Real CLIFF-HANGER!!

Did anyone ever come get the slat-walls? Why didn't you answer Omphaloskeptics questions? Did anyone else ever reply further? Why no more updates??

It's like it got cut-off before it was done!

I didn't even realize there were additional posts until I looked today. Figured I was "subscribed" to my own thread, but I guess not! Sorry Etek!

Cost. Total was about $22k for the entire 1600 sq ft remodel, so it wasn't cheap. But given how it's finished out, I'm pretty certain it was cheaper than demo/start from scratch.

Evaporative cooling is the shitz here in AZ. Works excellent, except in August when the humidity goes up during monsoons. Still tolerable though. Best part is you can have the door(s) up without the usual AC issues.

The Race Deck is working out well, but I really need some ideas on the best cleaner/method. Right now it's hands/knees and large towels with simple green-type cleaners, and that AIN'T working out. Well, it's doing the job, but I simply don't want to do the job in that fashion!

Yes, I still have few sheets of slat wall, if someone in the general vicinity is interested.

Other lessons learned....

I should have put another 220 outlet just inside the other roll up door. A 50amp extension does the trick, but the outlet would've been a simple fix.

I should have installed a stand up urinal off the bathroom. My brother has one in his shop and, well, you guys know this drill.

Having compressed air all over the place is nice. Easier to have coiled hoses within reach, than dragging out a 30 footer and snaking thru the place.

Here's a pic of the inside of the man door, for those moto heads that can appreciate a sticker collection....

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Standing in the loft from over the fold up stairs. Lots of storage. I did put the pegboard up to hand misc moto related stuff, as you can see. Note the ducting from the cooler to give some air up here also. I still need to put some fencing across that end so you can't walk off!

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Sorry so long on updates, and thanks for all the comments.

MR
 

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I think you could piece together a few bikes from all of the parts I see laying around.

shop looks awesome, hopefully one day I'll have something like that.

I know you ride them, but how do you keep the bikes so &^%^ clean? And what compressor are you running?
 
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RV Carport build...

I recently added an RV carport adjacent to my steel building shop. It's actually completely free standing and not attached...took me several months to decide how I wanted the design. After getting an idea in my mind of what I wanted it to look like, this was my stunning, professional, world class plans that we worked from....ha!!

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And here's the finished product. Looks pretty much exactly like I envisioned it really.

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This is what it looked like before the carport was added:

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And finally....here is what it looked like back when I bought this place in 2005.....little bit of a change, eh?

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drmarkr

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Thanks for doing that!! And thanks for all the comments. No more racing Buickfarmer. ...just dual sport these days. Along with lots of mtb rides...
 

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Great build thread. Amazing transformation from when you purchased the property. I hope to make a nice transformation in my "cactus patch". God bless.
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