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[joe.striper]

so all told, < $1000? Unbelievable! That is beyond suckworthy...

By my math... $700 for everything. Ever stub your goot on a 216lb anvil??? Man that hurts!!!

 

[ironmutt]

here is a link the new stand i made for my anvil each of the pics has specs/ instructions incase any one here wants to copy it https://www.facebook.com/media/set/...073741832.100000743802052&type=1&l=aab63591bf

 

[nine4gmc]

fresh acquisition, anyone know what the "C" stands for that's cast into the base? Roughly 28" long and 168# on the medical scale. looks like the markings were ground off the opposite side from the C casting. I looked online and saw Columbian but they all had a triangle around the C.

 

[Tejaas]

fresh acquisition, anyone know what the "C" stands for that's cast into the base? Roughly 28" long and 168# on the medical scale. looks like the markings were ground off the opposite side from the C casting. I looked online and saw Columbian but they all had a triangle around the C.

Interesting!

Below is a known Columbian, complete with the Triangle 'C' combo that you are aware of...

But if you notice, on the other side and down between the front & rear righthand feet you seem to have the same casting mark as pictured below as well.

And instead of a 'C' - this one has an 'M' which is (from what i understand) addressed in 'Anvils in America' as a mystery that is lost to time...

I'd bet they were both Columbians contracted for mail-order catalogs...?

Regardless, nice score boss!

 

[LXCam]

Nice score nines that baby is gorgeous!

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks guys, my 260# Hay Budden was lonely.

I'll do more looking around and if anyone else has any info, please let me know! Thanks!

 

[PWRstroke_smoke]

I picked this beauty up today 65 pound arm & hammer anvil. I have wanted a small arm and hammer for so many years I kinda stopped looking but finally found one today! Perfect size for my leather craft and gunsmith work.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Great shape.
Congratulations

 

[nine4gmc]

Thats a mighty fine anvil PWRstroke! I'd love to find a nice one that size!

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[PWRstroke_smoke]

Thats a mighty fine anvil PWRstroke! I'd love to find a nice one that size!

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been looking for so many years. I almost just gave up then finally got lucky!! I traded a full suspenion 2011 fuji mountain bike for the anvil. I got the bike in trade, the guy wanted my snap on kra21 gable top tool box and 2 starrett micrometers. Paid 60 for the tool box and 30 for the micrometers. so I guess you could say I got this anvil for 90! one just sold on ebay for almost 700$ cant believe the prices.........
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121959779542?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[PWRstroke_smoke]

Thanks guys, my 260# Hay Budden was lonely.

I'll do more looking around and if anyone else has any info, please let me know! Thanks!

you keeping that columbian or flipping it? its in good condition, how is the rebound?

 

[Black Frog]

fresh acquisition, anyone know what the "C" stands for that's cast into the base?

This is a "Columbian" anvil, but if you notice the other marking low between the feet, that is the Fagersta Bruk mark. Columbian anvils were mostly made in Cleveland OH, but for a while Columbian anvils sold in the U.S. were cast in Sweden by Soderfors and Fagersta. Yours was cast by Fagersta Bruks. Nice stuff!

 

[nine4gmc]

Are you telling me I have a Swedish anvil?

PWRstroke, I got it to flip but it's actually in better condition than my 260# Hay Budden. I decided not to sell it without properly identifying but now I'm hearing Colubian everywhere and on top of that, probably a little more rare Swedish made Columbian. I may have to hang on to this one a while.

I did see prices are UP on old anvils lately, there was a huge Hay Budden that sold for over $14,000 recently!!


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[Black Frog]

yup, that is Swedish steel in your Columbian.
That huge HB did not really sell for $14k, the buyer backed out and claimed his high-bid amount was off by decimal points. But it did sell after being relisted with "best offer" being an option. Only the seller and buyer know for sure what the price ended up as....

 

[joe.striper]

Was driving by a guy setting up tag sale tables, talked to him and asked what he was selling. Got this 229 lb Peter Wright for $360. Top has some chipping but overall good condition with great rebound.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Score

 

[PWRstroke_smoke]

Are you telling me I have a Swedish anvil?

PWRstroke, I got it to flip but it's actually in better condition than my 260# Hay Budden. I decided not to sell it without properly identifying but now I'm hearing Colubian everywhere and on top of that, probably a little more rare Swedish made Columbian. I may have to hang on to this one a while.

I did see prices are UP on old anvils lately, there was a huge Hay Budden that sold for over $14,000 recently!!


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I saw that one! I wonder what it really sold for ??? I would keep it. Its a very good anvil.

 

[joe.striper]

I picked this beauty up today 65 pound arm & hammer anvil. I have wanted a small arm and hammer for so many years I kinda stopped looking but finally found one today! Perfect size for my leather craft and gunsmith work.

I like those Arm and Hammer anvils. Nice markings.

 

[Motorman55]

Tough anvil.

 

[Qwk]

Here is my HB on it's new stand.. 12x12x26" filled with sand.

Simple and very cool! What thickness metal did you use?

 

[Tejaas]

Here is my 1906 100# Trenton/Acme overstrike on it's new base...








~Tejaas~

 

[bulletpruf]

Here is my 1906 100# Trenton/Acme overstrike on it's new base...
~Tejaas~

Does the metal on metal from the vise to the mounting frame introduce some unwanted harmonics? Would seem to me that it would negate some of the benefits of mounting on a stump.

 

[Outlawmws]

Cool looking "stump"? What is it's history? The cuts on it intrigue me... (old cabin log or timber framing maybe?)

And second the metal on metal question? It might increase the ringing? Maybe think about cutting and rabbiting a 1/4 or 3/8 piece of ply so its all wood for the anvil, and the ply is rabbited for the angle?

 

[Tejaas]

Cool looking "stump"? What is it's history? The cuts on it intrigue me... (old cabin log or timber framing maybe?)

And second the metal on metal question? It might increase the ringing? Maybe think about cutting and rabbiting a 1/4 or 3/8 piece of ply so its all wood for the anvil, and the ply is rabbited for the angle?

Actually, it was just a pared down live oak trunk section i had drying in the feed shed... The squared edge was a slighty artistic way of cutting out a nasty split that originated at the edge of a crumbling knot down on the bottom corner... The plan is/was to actually use my hot iron and add my cattle brand on the smooth face visible in the photo.

I wanted a half hewn/half natural look.

The ringing/harmonic factor was avoided altogether by trimming down a scrap of stock mat left over from when i redid the flooring on my 24' Featherlite... It serves as a buffer between the angle iron and the anvil.


~Tejaas~

 

[Reversepolarity]

After talking with a guy at a local swap meet. He told me he had an anvil he would sell.
After meeting him at his place, and negotiating price.
I walked away with a 123 pound Trenton anvil, Warren tool 3/4 fuller, and three pairs of tongs for $225
If any of you have the Anvils in America book. Could you tell me the age? Serial # is 165236

 

[bulletpruf]

Fellas -

Any thoughts on this anvil? http://www.subito.it/annunci-vari/incudine-napoli-167582972.htm This is the common shape that you see in Italy - doesn't appeal to me. I've been holding out for something a bit more aesthetically pleasing. Yes, I know that shouldn't matter, but I'm not in a big rush (have a large section of railroad track that I use now) so I'm kind of waiting to stumble across a sweet deal.

Anyway, any clue as to vintage and make on it?

FYI - it's 40 kg (88 lbs) for 200 euro (about $230 U.S., so about $3 per lb). Looks like he also has a 50 kg (110 lbs) and a 70 kg (154 lbs), but no price.

Thanks,

Scott

 

[Cypherian]

Hey,

The price is a bit high for the American Markets at least in my local area but all things are relative so no idea if it is over priced or not in Italy . I recently paid 200 ish for a Mouse Hole Forge in good shape and about the same weight. With out further id of the maker I would say it is about a 130 to 150 us dollar anvil at that weight and no maker of note.

You could start here http://www.anvilfire.com/anvils/donated_004.php


Cypher

 

[Craptain]

I think it is pretty cool looking. And it looks to be a useful size and shape. I can't address the price having nothing to relate to but it seems to be somewhat affordable even if a little high by US standards. US prices don't mean a thing in another country in any case. Maybe do some more research and see how it stacks up locally. Personally I would be all over it.

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[Outlawmws]

I agree, you need to do local research (unless you get lucky and find an Italian expert here on GJ), and find out what prices are there, what vises are good or junk and all that. it seems in good shape, but...

On the other hand you don't care for the style, and have an alternative. so...

 

[bulletpruf]

Hey,

The price is a bit high for the American Markets at least in my local area but all things are relative so no idea if it is over priced or not in Italy . I recently paid 200 ish for a Mouse Hole Forge in good shape and about the same weight. With out further id of the maker I would say it is about a 130 to 150 us dollar anvil at that weight and no maker of note.

You could start here http://www.anvilfire.com/anvils/donated_004.php


Cypher

Thanks for the link -- great info there. Now I know why that's the only shape anvil that I see in this area.

Scott

 

[bulletpruf]

I think it is pretty cool looking. And it looks to be a useful size and shape. I can't address the price having nothing to relate to but it seems to be somewhat affordable even if a little high by US standards. US prices don't mean a thing in another country in any case. Maybe do some more research and see how it stacks up locally. Personally I would be all over it.

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Price seems to be about average for the area. I haven't run across any super deals.

Thanks

 

[bulletpruf]

I agree, you need to do local research (unless you get lucky and find an Italian expert here on GJ), and find out what prices are there, what vises are good or junk and all that. it seems in good shape, but...

On the other hand you don't care for the style, and have an alternative. so...

I'm going to hold off for now; will see if I run across a good deal on one.

thanks

 

[Black Frog]

Reversepolarity, Could you please take a closeup picture of the logo stamp on the side, and another of the serial number on the foot?

Beyond what is in A.I.A., I have a Trenton logo stamp database going (as well as A&H), Trenton used several different styles of stamps through their years. I'm putting the serial number ranges with each style of stamp. I can tell you more once I get some good closeups of the stamp, and I'd like to add yours (or any Trentons or A&H's here) to the list!

I walked away with a 123 pound Trenton anvil, Warren tool 3/4 fuller, and three pairs of tongs for $225
If any of you have the Anvils in America book. Could you tell me the age? Serial # is 165236

 

[Reversepolarity]

Reversepolarity, Could you please take a closeup picture of the logo stamp on the side, and another of the serial number on the foot?

Beyond what is in A.I.A., I have a Trenton logo stamp database going (as well as A&H), Trenton used several different styles of stamps through their years. I'm putting the serial number ranges with each style of stamp. I can tell you more once I get some good closeups of the stamp, and I'd like to add yours (or any Trentons or A&H's here) to the list!

 

[Black Frog]

Perfect! Thanks!

There is no "1" as a leading digit in your serial number. It is 65236 or 65266, tough to say exactly which. I can be sure of this from the style of cast base in your last picture. They didn't switch to the later style of cast base until a short time after yours. Your anvil is from the 1906 ballpark according to A.I.A.

Your style of Trenton logo stamp was the second version used in U.S. manufacturing. If your serial number was 165236, the logo stamp would look different. That's why putting these logo stamp databases together can be so helpful in dating anvils. It helps people that can make out the logo, but the serial number is gone. At least you still have some date range of manufacturing...

 

[kaymccampbell]

After talking with a guy at a local swap meet. He told me he had an anvil he would sell.
After meeting him at his place, and negotiating price.
I walked away with a 123 pound Trenton anvil, Warren tool 3/4 fuller, and three pairs of tongs for $225
If any of you have the Anvils in America book. Could you tell me the age? Serial # is 165236

Your wear plate is delaminating. It looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it with cold steel.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Your wear plate is delaminating. It looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it with cold steel.

Just a large chip on the edge.
No delamination.

 

[kaymccampbell]

Just a large chip on the edge.
No delamination.

Does it ring? A large ball bearing or a small hammer dropped on it should make a penetrating clear ring.

 

[Reversepolarity]

Does it ring? A large ball bearing or a small hammer dropped on it should make a penetrating clear ring.

All of the above. I gave it a thorough test. I have been using anvils for the past 30 years.
Has 80-90% rebound. Rings everywhere.

 

[kaymccampbell]

I wasn't questioning your credentials. I've been using anvils for over 50 years, but we've all bitten. If it rings, then it's not delaminated. Sure looks rough, though. That very defined seam between the body and the hard face are deceiving. Though it may be a product of the particular manufacturer's forging and welding process.