nicks78camaro
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Unfortunate they're cheapening their tools. Makes me want to get rid of my Carlyle bit sockets and ratcheting wrenches.
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Smokeshow69
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Basically the folks at Napa are doing a heck of a job pushing their customers to the harbor freight brands. Better prices, better selection, better tool construction and of times they offer coupons. Too bad. I really liked Carlyle but not with these new offerings 
scooby074
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Earlier this week I ordered the P-Rex plier set they have on sale for the quarter and out of curiosity I added a 1/2 drive 3/4" socket from the new Carlyle line to the order. Got the two items today and the socket does not instill confidence towards the new line. Doesn't look as nice as the previous socket for the same kind and as you can see on the tag "Product of Cambodia, Finished in China". I was hoping that at most they had switched to a cheaper supplier in Taiwan, but apparently that was too much to hope for.
That said, the socket might be just fine, but not at the price they charge for it. At the time of order, I paid $2.59 and at the time of this post the price is up to $6.29. For some reason earlier this week, a bunch of the new Carlyle tools were priced fairly low but are currently at a noticeably higher price. Currently I could buy the same socket from the old line for $5.69.
It might not be all gloom and doom since some of the other tools on the website look to just be the same tool with a new logo and color, but the socket is still disappointing. One because while the old Taiwan made sockets weren't anything too special, the seemed to be well made, had undercuts which were nice, and in 1/4 and 3/8 you could get mid depth. I thought they were a step above many of the other imported sockets. It's also disappointing since it just looks like they are cheapening up some of the line while not making the tools any cheaper which was kind of the problem in the first place. Generally the tools themselves were good, they just needed to be more competitive. HF seems to have got it figured out with Icon.
Ouch. We dont get much Carlyle tools at our Napas, mostly Ultrapro as the house brand. Ultrapro have always been a solid choice for mid+ tier tools. Here's hoping Napa Canada doesnt jump onto the nu-Carlyle bandwagon!
Fedwrench
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Too bad, I liked most of my original Carlyle stuff. Although NAPA discontinued my favorite Carlyle 90 tooth comfort grip flex heads years ago. I wonder how well Cambodian made sockets will be received 
Drunkonunleaded
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I ordered some items from my local store and popped in there today. We were talking about the rebrand and I showed this thread to the guys there. None of them were surprised sadly. They laughed about the COO.
As others have said, I’m pretty disappointed. Granted, it’s NAPA so my expectations were low. I’m hoping what I have now holds up.
Anyways, I took advantage of the clearance deals on a few screwdrivers and a ratchet that has yet to arrive.
Also bought a few things out of Real Deals. I didn’t realize that the line clamp pliers were a 2-pack. Going to return one of them.
As others have said, I’m pretty disappointed. Granted, it’s NAPA so my expectations were low. I’m hoping what I have now holds up.
Anyways, I took advantage of the clearance deals on a few screwdrivers and a ratchet that has yet to arrive.
Also bought a few things out of Real Deals. I didn’t realize that the line clamp pliers were a 2-pack. Going to return one of them.
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Odd-job
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Here's some of the real deal highlights (ignore the spinner handle that's in my cart):
Would that be this?
Is it made in Spain? Reminds me of all the other wrenches made Irega.
fourjeepin
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I bought those a few years back. Seems like they were around $30. I Don’t use them often but they sure are handy when needed.I'm late to the party but those are Lisle and nice. I normally scout the real deals sales for the remaining USA specialty tools they offer.
fourjeepin
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Here's some of the real deal highlights (ignore the spinner handle that's in my cart):
You guys are great at spending my money - in for the hose clamp vise.
KnurledNut
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Made by Proxene in Taiwan. Good stuff.
KnurledNut
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How much were the turtle jaws?
Drunkonunleaded
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$15 for 2.
Farmall450
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Same, but for some reason they're trying to charge me shipping online to get them at my local store.
Farmall450
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The 10mm master set is coming up for $10 less than real deals shows...same price as HF.
Ton ton
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I have this set and love it !The 10mm master set is coming up for $10 less than real deals shows...same price as HF.
Drunkonunleaded
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I looked back at my receipt. Looks like I paid $15 as well.The 10mm master set is coming up for $10 less than real deals shows...same price as HF.
Unfortunately, that NAPATEXT code wouldn't work for me. Unsure if it's because I was buying sale items, the code is expired, or if it can only be used one per person.
Farmall450
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I have the HF one, but I'm about to have this one lol.
fourjeepin
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They usually don’t charge shipping for store pickup. Usually an item that requires shipping isn’t available for store pickup, only ship to home. I ordered over $35 to get the free shipping. I ordered both sizes of the hose clamp vise plus the mini bolt cutters. The smaller hose clamp vise is only available in a few places, which required shipping for me.
montanafordman
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I purchased this today for $15 also. I have been eyeing the roto bit rachet for a few years but couldn't justify the price. It was on sale for about 40% off. I think I paid $54 instead of $96 (list price) which is still about $25 too expensive in my mind, but the one in the store felt very smooth, and I thought a roto bit ratchet might be handy - and i've got most of the other original carlyle ratchets including the first style cornwell clone roto ratchets in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2" so I figured I'd cap off the collection with this one. Funny over the last 10 years I've scored most of my carlyle stuff on a deep discount sale. Even though this bit ratchet was "on sale" I don't think I paid much more for my 1/4 and 3/8 locking flex ratchets. Even my 1/2" long locking flex ratchet I think I got for around $100? Most of my remaining tool purhases will be online or HF... Napa has just gotten far too expensive for import tools, especially now that the quality looks to be going down. I really liked the colors and balance of quality and cost until recently.The 10mm master set is coming up for $10 less than real deals shows...same price as HF.
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I would take the Napa set over the HF set. More options and more useful options.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's the same set sold under Duralast at AutoZone.
I bought the Duralast set years ago. The 1/4" swivel/universal saved my ****. Glad I had it. I'm almost tempted to buy the Napa set even though I don't need it.
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I bought one of the Carlyle sets since I needed to get my cart to 35 and only needed one socket (I seem to have a habbit of losing only those sockets from my normal stuff), though I already have one of the Diehard sets. The Diehard one seem pretty inclusive, trading one of the impacts for a 10mm Allen.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I just discovered those hose clamp vises looking through the hot deals catalog last night. Unfortunately, the small one wasn't available for me to buy, but I did get the bigger one. They look really handy, so I'll likely pick up the smaller "Lisle" (appear to be the maker of the Carlyle) one from JB Tools.
Yes, AFAIK, Lisle was the original seller of those hose clamp vises- I bought one from them years ago when they first came out. I'm sure some of the tool trucks rebrand them, but this was the first time I've seen one that wasn't Lisle. There is also a Japanese company, KTC?, that makes something very similar but has a "waffle" type jaw instead of a V.
Farmall450
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The picture appears to show a Lisle.
Farmall450
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I think assortment is pretty much the same, but yeah, for that price I'm def upgrading. Ordered my brother and dad one as well.I would take the Napa set over the HF set. More options and more useful options.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's the same set sold under Duralast at AutoZone.
I bought the Duralast set years ago. The 1/4" swivel/universal saved my ****. Glad I had it. I'm almost tempted to buy the Napa set even though I don't need it.
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Here is a razor blade scraper for $3.25 if you find yourself a bit short if free shipping.
Yes, sorry, I meant the "Lisle" that was rebranded.
Drunkonunleaded
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Hard to tell by the picture, but this is the flex head bent handle (R38FHBH). Specifically, it’s the old style. With the thin head. This will make it a lot easier to do plug changes on cars with headers.
There’s still a lot of these old style ones out there.
The new style (R38FBH120) is the 120T locking flex with the button on the side. Not great for tight quarters.
Caveat: I refer to “new” as the new blue/yellow Carlyle ratchets. I have no idea what the “green” new will be like.
There’s still a lot of these old style ones out there.
The new style (R38FBH120) is the 120T locking flex with the button on the side. Not great for tight quarters.
Caveat: I refer to “new” as the new blue/yellow Carlyle ratchets. I have no idea what the “green” new will be like.
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I bought the $15 Carlyle 10mm socket set today. They said that they were blowing them out. I didn’t take a picture of the set. I already put it away. While I never would have paid the almost $50 that they used to charge for this set, $15 seems like a good deal.
I just looked for any local store where the website said “order and pick up in 30 minutes” and went to the closest one. They only had one on the shelf.
I just looked for any local store where the website said “order and pick up in 30 minutes” and went to the closest one. They only had one on the shelf.
driftpin
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The 3 wire stripper/cutters & the 1/4" and 3/8" 10 mm sockets, about $57 total, tools in another post for a NAPA deal for these. The website worked for me just fine.
fourjeepin
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Tynee
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Are the hose clamp vises better than a set of hose clamp pliers?
Farmall450
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No wonder the hose clamp vises are on sale, they must have been sitting in the warehouse for 15+ years.
Nice USA (Lisle) tools still.
Nice USA (Lisle) tools still.
I like the little wave of wiring tool acquisitions 
I was a bit surprised at how narrow the handles are on the needlenose models, but they do have smooth action etc.
and I'm not usually cutting screws. I mainly got the set for the WSCCP, but I can see all of them getting use at some point...
I was a bit surprised at how narrow the handles are on the needlenose models, but they do have smooth action etc.
and I'm not usually cutting screws. I mainly got the set for the WSCCP, but I can see all of them getting use at some point...
techkelly
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The hose clamp pliers are easier to use. Where the vises work well is in tight areas. They are 1/4 inch drive. So, you
can use an extension.
89MustangGX
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I caved into the peer pressure. Picked up my USA made hose clamp vises and 10mm socket set today. Looks like really nice stuff.
Drunkonunleaded
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Good to know. They look huge in the photos. I work on mainly powersports stuff these days, so quarters are tight. I mostly use the Astro clamp pliers with the long cable. Can't recommend those enough.
techkelly
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You can get them into places you are not going to get pliers. I primarily work on Asian vehicles. Mainly Nissan, Honda and Toyota.
They saved me a lot of time.
KnurledNut
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Looks like this is the replacement. Foamed and double dipped grips. Dont see any other major changes other than color and the new logo.
