Show off your.... Carlyle Tools!!!

[MrJason]

There made by mac, and rebranded as carlyle, and cornwells.
Great ratchets btw.

Not sure about that, but Carlyle is a great ratchet.

Jason

 

[kythri]

There made by mac, and rebranded as carlyle, and cornwells.

Source?

 

[kiatech]

Wonder what happend to the OP.
Hasn't posted since 2012.

 

[themiller]

I needed a set of security torx drivers as my individual security bits were too big!

Didn't want to pay the $70-100 other boys were asking - got all 7 of these for $30. They're not bad -a bit dusty but not bad at all.

 

[SawtoothJL]

I needed a set of security torx drivers as my individual security bits were too big!

Didn't want to pay the $70-100 other boys were asking - got all 7 of these for $30. They're not bad -a bit dusty but not bad at all.

Looking good! [emoji106]

 

[Farmall450]

Some don't carry Carlyle. I have two napas in my area owned by the same person. About 10 minutes apart. One only caries evercraft the other one only caries Carlyle for hardline stuff. They also have Irwin and channel lock, along with some gearwrench.

The one that does carry them, indeed they're behind the counter, and a very very good selection.

Mine has both...cheap and quality levels.

 

[stage20]

was in napa today looking for a set of carlyle impact sockets. all they had was single evercraft. told me they were about to get a big reset in the tool aisle to check back. chatted a bit about how nice some of the new carlyle is for the money. he not only bashed evercraft for being all china junk, but then said that all the carlyle tools were made in the same place as snap on and matco tools.

i lol'd and hit the door......

 

[rshadd]

I haven't purchased anything and I doubt that I ever will but I did join the Carlyle club for the free swag.

 

[oak_park]

I thought all Carlyle wrenches are the v cut no slip type.

The set below does not look v cut nor does it have the teeth on the open end.

Do they offer both versions?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Carlyle...43893409?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item5b061267a1

 

[Loscaldazar]

I thought all Carlyle wrenches are the v cut no slip type.

The set below does not look v cut nor does it have the teeth on the open end.

Do they offer both versions?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Carlyle...43893409?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item5b061267a1

Yes, the long pattern versions have the teeth on the open end.

 

[stage20]

are the cw1211m metric wrenches long pattern or no? im looking at a set but the picture doesnt look like what im after. thanks

 

[Schurkey]

I must be the only person on Earth who remembers about thirty years ago, when NAPA rolled-out the tool program where they advertised that they'd accept broken Craftsman tools and provide warranty replacements...because NAPA was using the same vendor Sears was for their product line. Even the ratchet repair kits would interchange, because NAPA and Sears were both going to the same manufacturer for their custom-branded product line. (Armstrong/Apex/Danaher, except I think this was pre-Danaher. I don't know who actually owned the factory at that time. Hell, most folks thought Sears actually made Craftsman tools--I know I did!)

So if I walk into a NAPA with a busted Made-In-USA socket from their previous tool line, they're going to hand me a Made-In-Taiwan replacement. I'm not happy that that sort of thing is happening at Sears, and that it happened at Lowe's, and now it's happened at NAPA. I've probably missed a heap of places that used to sell USA tools but have gone to imports to improve profit margins.

What good is a "lifetime warranty" if the retailer quits selling that line? Where's "Carlyle" going to be made ten years from now? China? Africa? I suppose we'll have arguments about how wonderful it was when hand tools were made on Earth instead of on Mars. The good news is that with all the radiation from Martian tools, we'll have three arms to help hold 'em, and we'll see in the dark so there's no need for a trouble-light.

 

[Fedwrench]

was in napa today looking for a set of carlyle impact sockets.

What good is a "lifetime warranty" if the retailer quits selling that line?

There's no such thing as a Carlyle impact socket. NAPA professional impact sockets are rebadged sunex. Carlyle is chrome stuff no impact.

A lifetime warranty only provides you a lifetime of failed tools.
I understand you not wanting a foreign made replacement to mingle with the rest of your US made set. However, I wish MAC still made the old style fine tooth round head ratchet I'm fond of, or that Cornwell still supported my Kennedy made box with parts. It's not just where a tool is made that changes but, elements of lines too.

 

[stage20]

There's no such thing as a Carlyle impact socket. NAPA professional impact sockets are rebadged sunex. Carlyle is chrome stuff no impact.

A lifetime warranty only provides you a lifetime of failed tools.
I understand you not wanting a foreign made replacement to mingle with the rest of your US made set. However, I wish MAC still made the old style fine tooth round head ratchet I'm fond of, or that Cornwell still supported my Kennedy made box with parts. It's not just where a tool is made that changes but, elements of lines too.

They are out there. Ws in my local store. I've got an 18mm ill snap a pic of when I get home. Its nothing fancy looking but looks well made. Chrome moly. Taiwan. Its stamped and etched

 

[AnthonyJ124]

On another thread, I had a tough problem getting my hands on a ratchet set, around Fathers Day.

Got in touch with NAPA, and they literally hand held me being able to acquire a set, even after the sale price had expired.

Kick *** customer service, and the tools. . Let's talk about this set!

Exquisite execution on the design, and I have these in the hands of a heavy line tech, and the feedback I've got so far, is that they are durable and become a first grab choice overt the Snap, Mac ratchets in his box.

Carlyle is adding luster back to the NAPA toll line. This set is worth it's sticker price!

I'm writing a article for a national print magazine, about a ratchet comparison for the everyday wrench head, to which Carlyle is a part of my survey.

Stay tuned.

Literally looked at this set today. Looked very good. Wonder how your article went??

 

[John in OH]

Some don't carry Carlyle. I have two napas in my area owned by the same person. About 10 minutes apart. One only caries evercraft the other one only caries Carlyle for hardline stuff. They also have Irwin and channel lock, along with some gearwrench.

The one that does carry them, indeed they're behind the counter, and a very very good selection.

I posted the following comments in another Carlyle thread, but I'll repeat them here.

I haven't found any rhyme or reason yet behind why one NAPA store carries a good inventory of Carlyle or not.

I frequent two different NAPA stores -- one in OH and one in VA. The VA store is an independent store and they stock no Carlyle tools whatsoever. Their only inventory is Evercraft. The OH store (don't know if it is independent or not) stocks a good inventory of Evercraft and a modest inventory of Carlyle such as loose sockets, ratchets and combo wrenches -- no sets of anything.

However, they can get super-fast delivery of the Carlyle tools. For example, I wanted to get a better set of 3/8 drive, 6-point, metric sockets for a specific job today. Went in to the OH NAPA at about 10:30am on the off chance they might have the twelve-piece set I wanted -- no luck, not in stock; but, they said they could have it by 1:00pm!! I went back in at about 2pm and shur'nuf, there it was! So, after about a 3 hour delay and $39 later I had my new set of sockets. And very nice sockets they are!!

Usually, I try to get Wright tools, if possible, but I can't get Wright locally so the NAPA Carlyle is now my go-to tool when I need something quickly.

I also like to patronize the local stores in my area and the NAPA store in OH has been around my small hometown since I was a kid.

 

[AnthonyJ124]

Nice looking set! Thanks for the write up & show off.

 

[dede2897234]

are the cw1211m metric wrenches long pattern or no? im looking at a set but the picture doesnt look like what im after. thanks

Stage20,

The Carlyle part# you are referencing for the metric long pattern wrench set is partially correct. The correct part# for the 9mm-19mm set with the caddy is CHTCWL1211M: LINK.


Dave

 

[wyo george]

I was at my local Napa today dropping off a few cases of oil and decided to fondle some of the Carlyle stuff while I was there. Putting aside the COO, I was really impressed with the feel and finish of everything in the line, especially the wrenches and screwdrivers. I almost bought an extension they had that was made with a"handle" section in the middle set in bearings so you could hold the extension while running the impact wrench. Really neat idea.

 

[AndrewV]

Not all napa's are corp. owned.
Thus not all will carry the same non part inventory.

 

[stage20]

sorry for the delay fedwrench, i been busy with work.

 

[SawtoothJL]

sorry for the delay fedwrench, i been busy with work.

Nice!!! I wonder if they are the same as the Napa pro impact sockets

 

[bcradio]

What happened to the OP?

 

[Fedwrench]

sorry for the delay fedwrench, i been busy with work.

I sit corrected.

The NAPA I deal with only has the NAPA pro impact sockets and Carlyle doesn't list impact sockets in the catalog I have. I wonder if NAPA will ditch their current line of impact sockets and go with all Carlyle

 

[stage20]

Nice!!! I wonder if they are the same as the Napa pro impact sockets

I think the napas are sunex? The napa may have been more stylish but I've been wanting to supprt the carlyle name and it was actually a few bucks cheaper. 7.85 vs 5.52 I believe

 

[durallymax]

i ordered a bunch, waiting for it to show up. Looked impressive to me.

 

[Ruger_556]

I wonder if NAPA will ditch their current line of impact sockets and go with all Carlyle

I hope not... All my impact sockets are NAPA Pro from 3/8-3/4 drive and swivels. OCD is a terrible thing to have I think the NAPA Pro Sunex line has actually been the longest lived of their impact socket lines.

 

[Ign]

I searched the thread but very little mention of the roto heads. I got the 1/4" roto (R14S100) but it has a lot of back drag for a 1/4" unit. There's a Phillips head screw in the QR button, does anyone know if this is the key to disassembly? I'm on the road right now so haven't had a chance to try anything, but knowledge is power when I get around to trying to lube it.

I wonder how Starrett instrument oil would be? I don't have any SuperLube ATM

edit: I'll post a pic when I get home too; I only read thru page 7 and then searched the remainder, but if the first 7 pages are any indication, I might post the 11th or 12th picture in what's otherwise 20 pages of arguing

 

[Hiball]

I searched the thread but very little mention of the roto heads. I got the 1/4" roto (R14S100) but it has a lot of back drag for a 1/4" unit. There's a Phillips head screw in the QR button, does anyone know if this is the key to disassembly? I'm on the road right now so haven't had a chance to try anything, but knowledge is power when I get around to trying to lube it.

I wonder how Starrett instrument oil would be? I don't have any SuperLube ATM

edit: I'll post a pic when I get home too; I only read thru page 7 and then searched the remainder, but if the first 7 pages are any indication, I might post the 11th or 12th picture in what's otherwise 20 pages of arguing

I have no personal experience with the round heads from Carlyle, but IME ratchets get better with use.

 

[bobbycos]

hmmmmm, gonna have to check out my local napa tomorrow

 

[BirdMobile]

I searched the thread but very little mention of the roto heads. I got the 1/4" roto (R14S100) but it has a lot of back drag for a 1/4" unit. There's a Phillips head screw in the QR button, does anyone know if this is the key to disassembly? I'm on the road right now so haven't had a chance to try anything, but knowledge is power when I get around to trying to lube it.

I wonder how Starrett instrument oil would be? I don't have any SuperLube ATM

edit: I'll post a pic when I get home too; I only read thru page 7 and then searched the remainder, but if the first 7 pages are any indication, I might post the 11th or 12th picture in what's otherwise 20 pages of arguing

I have both the 1/4 and 3/8 drive roto-head ratchets from Carlyle. They are, without question, my favorite roto ratchets.

To disassemble and lube, you will need a torx bit that fits the quick release button. After you have removed the screw, button, and spring, there will be a small hex nut. You will need a VERY thin walled socket, or a strong pair of needle nose pliers to remove the nut. MAKE SURE you put the nut back on correctly when you re-assemble, it is easy to cross-thread. Both the torx screw and nut are held in with blue lok-tite, up to you if you want to re-apply or not. I don't, and haven't had anything bad happen. Make sure you don't over-tighten the torx screw when re-assembling, the depth of the screw determines quick release "sensitivity" and over tightening it turns off quick release completely. You'll see what I'm talking about when you mess with it.

Don't expect miracles once it's lubed, pretty much ALL roto-head ratchets have a bit of back drag as compared to teardrop ratchets. My Carlyle rotos are smoother than my HF rotos, but not quite as smooth as my Husky (rebranded Gearwrench) rotos. The Carlyle's are still my favorites, though... highest quality and best ergonomics of them all!

Enjoy!

 

[Bigblue&Goldie]

I know people get tired of the constant comparisons to Snap On, but when I was in the market for a roto head the Snap On FHNF100 was the nicest of them all. I paid $65 for mine on eBay and it was brand new. I think the Carlyle runs $85 unless you have an account that nets you a discount.

Here is an older thread discussing roto's
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167466&page=2

 

[BirdMobile]

I know people get tired of the constant comparisons to Snap On, but when I was in the market for a roto head the Snap On FHNF100 was the nicest of them all. I paid $65 for mine on eBay and it was brand new. I think the Carlyle runs $85 unless you have an account that nets you a discount.

Here is an older thread discussing roto's
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167466&page=2

I've played with the Snap On roto, but don't own one. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Carlyle and the Snap On were made in the same factory. Both excellent quality, both 100 tooth, and both feel about the same in terms of backdrag and flex rotation smoothness.

I got my 3/8 Carlyle for a little over $60 on sale, combined with my friend's NAPA account discount.

 

[BK13]

I'm thinking about picking up a set of metric 6 point 1/4" drive standard sockets. Does anybody have any feedback on how they have worked out for you?

 

[bobcatdan]

I've played with the Snap On roto, but don't own one. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Carlyle and the Snap On were made in the same factory. Both excellent quality, both 100 tooth, and both feel about the same in terms of backdrag and flex rotation smoothness.

I got my 3/8 Carlyle for a little over $60 on sale, combined with my friend's NAPA account discount.

Funniest thing I read all morning.

 

[BirdMobile]

Funniest thing I read all morning.

What did you find humorous? The Snap On roto head ratchet is NOT made in the U.S. - there is a strong possibility that Carlyle and Snap On both source their rotos from the same Taiwan factory.

 

[stratman977]

I'm thinking about picking up a set of metric 6 point 1/4" drive standard sockets. Does anybody have any feedback on how they have worked out for you?

Their sockets are a solid buy, you won't regret.

 

[Hiball]

What did you find humorous? The Snap On roto head ratchet is NOT made in the U.S. - there is a strong possibility that Carlyle and Snap On both source their rotos from the same Taiwan factory.

So what part of them being stamped USA and the website confirming the COO as USA makes them not made here?

Website

 

[BirdMobile]

So what part of them being stamped USA and the website confirming the COO as USA makes them not made here?

Website

I stand corrected. The one I handled on the truck didn't have USA stamped on it anywhere. I might have to track down a used Snap On roto now... being the roto ratchet fan that I am!

 

[Ign]

To disassemble and lube, you will need a torx bit that fits the quick release button. After you have removed the screw, button, and spring, there will be a small hex nut. You will need a VERY thin walled socket, or a strong pair of needle nose pliers to remove the nut. MAKE SURE you put the nut back on correctly when you re-assemble, it is easy to cross-thread. Both the torx screw and nut are held in with blue lok-tite, up to you if you want to re-apply or not. I don't, and haven't had anything bad happen. Make sure you don't over-tighten the torx screw when re-assembling, the depth of the screw determines quick release "sensitivity" and over tightening it turns off quick release completely. You'll see what I'm talking about when you mess with it.

Don't expect miracles once it's lubed, pretty much ALL roto-head ratchets have a bit of back drag as compared to teardrop ratchets. My Carlyle rotos are smoother than my HF rotos, but not quite as smooth as my Husky (rebranded Gearwrench) rotos. The Carlyle's are still my favorites, though... highest quality and best ergonomics of them all!

Enjoy!

BirdMobile, thank you for taking the time to post all that! Useful tech IMO

Now in keeping with the premise of the thread and my word, here's 2 shots of my new 1/4" roto head. Presently my only Carlyle tool. These are on sale right now at all Napas (from what I saw) for $55.99, regularly something like $69 or $70. I couldn't do the bucket sale on it, but it seems like a quality piece and I personally didn't think $56 was outrageous (cue someone to argue with me about how I choose to spend the money I earn), and it would seem to be THE cheapest you'll get this unit (without exceptional discounts, commercial accounts, married to the daughter of the owner of your local Napa, etc) as the Mac and Cornwell equivalents are not gonna be $56.