Show off your DOE's!

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Not sure why, but I'm into them pretty heavy lately. Have a full set of Bonney and Crafty now. Working on Herbrand and Vlchek.

Let me know when you start working on Armstrong...

 

[Jp267]

Just ran across these Wilde Tool Company manufactured Craftsman N4 Circle P 5/8 3/4.

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[Jp267]

Uh-oh, the dreaded two posts in a row without any replies in between...

It usually takes something special for me to pick up a DOE wrench that isn't from WWII. These two are good examples.

I've seen these "Snail Brand" (love the logo!) wrenches posted here before, typically with MADE IN ENGLAND forged into the flip side. This one has COLCHESTER LATHE CO LTD. I am guessing that it was made by Snail for Colchester. They go back to 1837 and are still in business! Check it out here. Maybe one of our mates from the UK will fill us in even more.

I like the old S.A.E. bolt, U.S.S. bolt, and hex cap screw size markings on the wrench faces. I leave a lot of them behind, but this "S" wrench was just too neat to not bring home. Might be common for all I know, but I liked it.

Those are great! Thanks for sharing!

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[Private Lugnutz]

Picked up this set of Cornwell DOE obstruction or angle (15* x 60*) wrenches today. Both ends have the same size opening. I have some crude, plain steel, hand-forged, unfinished Cornwell wrenches, but these are the most stripped down I have ever seen. The forging and machine marks are all very evident. I am very fond of this look and the skinny shank!

EDIT:
For future reference:
3/8": 23 CORNWELL 2
9/16": 33 CORNWELL 8
3/4": 33 CORNWELL 14
7/8": 23 CORNWELL 18
1": 33 CORNWELL 22

 

[d42jeep]

Those look like they've had a pretty hard life. I'll bet they are wartime with that little attention to finish. Here are a couple of Hazet wrenches I picked up yesterday.
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

I should know this "X" marking from perusing various threads here, but I'm drawing a blank.
Just received these in a package of stuff. Any idea who made these?
One of them appears to have a patent number on it, but I can't make it out.



(* if these are something you're looking for, let me know. *)

 

[twertsy]

I should know this "X" marking from perusing various threads here, but I'm drawing a blank.
Just received these in a package of stuff. Any idea who made these?
One of them appears to have a patent number on it, but I can't make it out.

Bridgeport.

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[four.cycle]

duh.... just figured it out from the "X" logo from the chart at AA....
are all three of those Bridgeport?

so the patent number (D97325) is on the design of the wrench?

edit again:

I need some more powerful glasses... I completely missed the "nickel molybdenum" on the large wrench - I am assuming then that all three are Bridgeport, correct?

 

[twertsy]

duh.... just figured it out from the "X" logo from the chart at AA....
are all three of those Bridgeport?

Bottom 2, are they Tappet? Probably Herbrand.

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[four.cycle]

no... they're all "standard" thickness.... all three are stamped "USA nickel molybdenum" - I didn't look at them closely enough I guess.
these were part of a "grab bag" of sorts.... I didn't think they were anything really special - I was just puzzled as to who made them.

 

[twertsy]

no... they're all "standard" thickness.... all three are stamped "USA nickel molybdenum" - I didn't look at them closely enough I guess.
these were part of a "grab bag" of sorts.... I didn't think they were anything really special - I was just puzzled as to who made them.

If the say Nickel Moly they're prob Bridgeport but Herbrand made that shank style in at least tappets.

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[Private Lugnutz]

Catfishdan found a DOE "S" wrench and kindly sent it to me a few weeks ago. It’s a 1942 Bonney "75J" (1/2 x 7/16) made for a Mack G535 NR series (WWII 6-ton 6 x 6 prime mover) on-board truck toolkit. It's been shown before with a Mack ball-peen hammer on the Bonney Affliction thread, but not here. See thumbnail 1, 2, and 3.

Today I found another Mack “S” wrench! This one ("79S", 5/8 x 9/16) was made by Williams. While Williams did not use a date code, this is almost certainly wartime. It has the wartime marking (script underline Williams logo with FORGED < W > USA) and a plain steel finish. On top of that, if you look in the 1943 Williams catalog, these had the big red DISCONTINUED notice on the top of the page, making it highly unlikely to be a civilian wrench with that logo and that finish. See thumbnails 4 and 5.

I also took a few photos of them together. Unfortunately, Bonney stamped the Mack logo on the flip side. Still look great together, though. See thumbnails 6 and 7.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I have the Mack NR series truck toolkit diagram. The Bonney wrench is 2306-6. The Williams wrench is 2306-7. (These numbers are Ordnance Dept numbers. Toolkits are group 2300 in terms of part and figure numbers in many truck manuals, e.g., Dodge, GMC, etc.) See thumbnail.

If anyone is interested in scouting for me, the other "S" wrenches in the set are:
- 3/4 x 7/8
- 1-1/16 x 15/16

I don't care which OEM - Williams or Bonney, as long as it has the Mack logo!

 

[twertsy]

I have the Mack NR series truck toolkit diagram. The Bonney wrench is 2306-6. The Williams wrench is 2306-7. (These numbers are Ordnance Dept numbers. Toolkits are group 2300 in terms of part and figure numbers in many truck manuals, e.g., Dodge, GMC, etc.) See thumbnail.

If anyone is interested in scouting for me, the other "S" wrenches in the set are:
- 3/4 x 7/8
- 1-1/16 x 15/16

I don't care which OEM - Williams or Bonney, as long as it has the Mack logo!

I know there is at least 1 Mack S wrench in my "next time Greg comes" box/crate.

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[Private Lugnutz]

I know there is at least 1 Mack S wrench in my "next time Greg comes" box/crate.

Time for me to invent a meeting at INSCOM HQ! (Hmm. I actually do need to talk to someone in the G7.)

 

[Catfishdan]

That's the start of a nice collection there, Lugz!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's the start of a nice collection there, Lugz!

Thanks, Dan! Funny. Sometimes a collection is a very conscious, planned thing, and sometimes it just happens out of nowhere.

 

[d42jeep]

Here are a few DOE wrenches I've picked up recently. A like new Thorsen, a 1938 Plomb tappet wrench, a Barcalo and a Blue Point 1/2" x 9/16" wrench.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

I can't believe that I'm the only person finding interesting DOE wrenches but here are some I got today. A friend had set aside a bucket of rusty wrenches and I went through them and picked a few out. Please ignore the Proto LA and PowrKraft combos in the top right. Below those are a Barcalo, two Bonny's, an early metric/SAE marked Bridgeport and some other unmarked wrenches.
-Don

 

[LesserSon]

I can't believe that I'm the only person finding interesting DOE wrenches but here are some I got today. A friend had set aside a bucket of rusty wrenches and I went through them and picked a few out. Please ignore the Proto LA and PowrKraft combos in the top right. Below those are a Barcalo, two Bonny's, an early metric/SAE marked Bridgeport and some other unmarked wrenches.
-Don

Okay, okay...Yesterday I bought two small Bonney DOEs for a dollar. The bare carbon steel 821A is more interesting to me because it predates the date code system begun in 1921, nor does it have “made in usa” on it. Higher-res images here: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6850420&postcount=1083
The Zenel is interesting because it dates from November 1945 with a cadmium finish. That’s interesting to me because I have another one with the same date code in chrome, and two more from 1946, one with cad and one with chrome.
I also spotted a Bonney reverse gear wrench with unground gullets, which I may yet buy for the novelty, but I already have one with the gullets ground, so I didn’t feel immediate pressure.

 

[ryan20021982]

Got these the other day in a big lot of tools for dirt cheap

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[Private Lugnutz]

I was going through my 723's tonight for other purposes, when I ran across this one that I forgot I had. It's the only Wilde DOE engineers' wrench I have, and the only one I have ever seen. Very tiny logo and difficult to photo (sorry) - script Wilde inside a banner type box.

EDIT: I chalked it and blew it up.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Now that I've found a second Herbrand tappet wrench (the H-2, I found the H-4 a few years ago), I guess I'm working on a set of these. Not going to be easy to complete! Herbrand is fairly uncommon to rare to find for me, in general. And see how wide the shank is? That dates them back to the late 20's to early 30's. They are considerably narrower in the 1937 and 1942 catalogs. I kind of prefer them wider, if for no other reason than to provide more space for the large, fancy, gorgeous brandings! They came in pairs, of course, but frankly, with these particular Herbrands, I'd be thrilled just to find one each H-1 and H-3 and call it a set!

 

[twertsy]

Now that I've found a second Herbrand tappet wrench (the H-2, I found the H-4 a few years ago), I guess I'm working on a set of these. Not going to be easy to complete! Herbrand is fairly uncommon to rare to find for me, in general. And see how wide the shank is? That dates them back to the late 20's to early 30's. They are considerably narrower in the 1937 and 1942 catalogs. I kind of prefer them wider, if for no other reason than to provide more space for the large, fancy, gorgeous brandings! They came in pairs, of course, but frankly, with these particular Herbrands, I'd be thrilled just to find one each H-1 and H-3 and call it a set!

I think I have 10 or so of those, but pretty sure mine are all japanned, not bare steel.

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[Private Lugnutz]

Interesting. If they're actually like these - wide shank, same marking - I would guess older than. The 37 and 41 cats say polished faces, satin shank. Did they come together or you found them onesy-twosy? Post pics.

 

[twertsy]

Now that I've found a second Herbrand tappet wrench (the H-2, I found the H-4 a few years ago), I guess I'm working on a set of these. Not going to be easy to complete! Herbrand is fairly uncommon to rare to find for me, in general. And see how wide the shank is? That dates them back to the late 20's to early 30's. They are considerably narrower in the 1937 and 1942 catalogs. I kind of prefer them wider, if for no other reason than to provide more space for the large, fancy, gorgeous brandings! They came in pairs, of course, but frankly, with these particular Herbrands, I'd be thrilled just to find one each H-1 and H-3 and call it a set!

Here's some....2x H-1, 2x H-2 and a 1340 H-4

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[Private Lugnutz]

Those are all different production years from mine. Do you see how super wide the shanks are on mine? They are ridiculously wide. Look at the shank where it meets the head. I've never seen any like that before. I am guessing this wide shank style would be in an earlier catalog, late 20's or early 30's.

Your others are like a history lesson. The H-1 second from the bottom is clearly an example of the wrenches shown in the 1937 and 1941 catalogs. I suspect the H-2 directly above it is too, despite no markings. I'm guessing it's transitional (omitting the reference to VANADIUM) before they went to the all block letter Herbrand logo. Your H-4 at the top with the AISI 1340 steel (Manganese alloy) number forged in and the plain block letter logo and the H-1 on the bottom with the AISI 8742 steel (one of the so-called "New Emergency" triple nickel-chrome-molybdenum alloys) number forged in and the plain block letter logo are undoubtedly wartime. Very nice examples of two of the four tappet sizes used in the rear echelon maintenance tool-sets in WWII.

EDIT: I did just find one of those Master Tappet wrenches on the left, with the same coppery dappled finish as the second wrench from the left. Love the styling on those with the panel on the shank flowing right into and becoming the face of the head.

 

[Jim C.]

Now that I've found a second Herbrand tappet wrench (the H-2, I found the H-4 a few years ago), I guess I'm working on a set of these. Not going to be easy to complete! Herbrand is fairly uncommon to rare to find for me, in general. And see how wide the shank is? That dates them back to the late 20's to early 30's. They are considerably narrower in the 1937 and 1942 catalogs. I kind of prefer them wider, if for no other reason than to provide more space for the large, fancy, gorgeous brandings! They came in pairs, of course, but frankly, with these particular Herbrands, I'd be thrilled just to find one each H-1 and H-3 and call it a set!

Hey Lugz,

I have a similar situation with Herbrand obstruction wrenches. I initially got hooked on Williams obstruction wrenches, and along the way, picked up a Herbrand obstruction wrench. Then I got a couple more. I think the script style manufacturer’s mark sort of pulled me in. Anyway, like the tappet wrenches, I’ve found that the obstruction wrenches aren’t very common. As far as I know, the set consisted of seven wrenches. I think it’s going to be a tough set to complete.

Jim C.

 

[ryan20021982]

Now that I've found a second Herbrand tappet wrench (the H-2, I found the H-4 a few years ago), I guess I'm working on a set of these. Not going to be easy to complete! Herbrand is fairly uncommon to rare to find for me, in general. And see how wide the shank is? That dates them back to the late 20's to early 30's. They are considerably narrower in the 1937 and 1942 catalogs. I kind of prefer them wider, if for no other reason than to provide more space for the large, fancy, gorgeous brandings! They came in pairs, of course, but frankly, with these particular Herbrands, I'd be thrilled just to find one each H-1 and H-3 and call it a set!

Looks like the H-3 for your set

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F122013742506

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I may have one or two of those, Jim. Or it could be a Williams I am thinking of. I will check.

I agree, ryan - that's it! The wide beam is soooo uncommonly unmistakable. I'm not typically a fleaBay hunter, but I may have to break down and buy one there eventually.

 

[Jim C.]

I may have one or two of those, Jim. Or it could be a Williams I am thinking of. I will check......

Much appreciated sir!

 

[twertsy]

Hey Lugz,

I have a similar situation with Herbrand obstruction wrenches. I initially got hooked on Williams obstruction wrenches, and along the way, picked up a Herbrand obstruction wrench. Then I got a couple more. I think the script style manufacturer’s mark sort of pulled me in. Anyway, like the tappet wrenches, I’ve found that the obstruction wrenches aren’t very common. As far as I know, the set consisted of seven wrenches. I think it’s going to be a tough set to complete.

Jim C.

Dang it! I left a big one behind today.

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[Jim C.]

Dang it! I left a big one behind today......

Maybe next time...... I’m looking for Williams obstruction wrenches too. That’s also gonna be a tough set to complete. I think there’s more than 30 of those. I currently have 18.

Jim C.

 

[Jim C.]

I very recently picked up this early 1960s Craftsman DOE metric wrench set in its original plastic storage roll. The roll is still in pretty good shape with no cracks or splits and the wrenches look like they’ve never been used.

Jim C.

 

[LesserSon]

(Bump the thread)
Recent acquisition of a set of Bonney CV tappet wrenches from 1929&30. These surpass the condition of my previous piecemeal collecting of similar wrenches.

 

[Jim C.]

(Bump the thread)
Recent acquisition of a set of Bonney CV tappet wrenches from 1929&30. These surpass condition my previous piecemeal collecting of similar wrenches.

Nice set for sure. That’s a home run in my book. I don’t mind collecting a set one at a time, and have done it more often than not. I’m currently working on the Williams obstruction wrench set, which I may never complete..... But finding a complete set of the wrenches you’re collecting is usually too good to pass up, particularly when they’re in good shape, they all have the same patina, etc. Like I said, that’s a home run. Nice find.

Jim C.

 

[leg17]

Picked up two Kraeuter does today. The larger one is very thin like a tappet wrench but not very long. It also has had its larger opening reground even larger.

The thinner one is a Check-Nut wrench.
The part number would begin with the letter C.
Looks like it was probably C2428, (3/4 x 7/8)

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Found a pair of INDIAN MOTOCYCLES wrenches today. Pressed steel. Also some classic WWII jeep wrenches, both 28S. A Barcalo-Buffalo and a pre-/early-war BHM Master Quality Molybdenum Alloy.

 

[four.cycle]

^ That lower Indian Motorcycle looks like it might be a match to my #55 Wakefield:



Wakefield produced a bunch of 5-inch "bicycle" wrenches that were stamped "Indian Motorcycles". I have to wonder if perhaps they were also producing open-end models for them as well.

 

[LesserSon]

I turned over a lot of wrenches in a thrift store today. Half a dozen Craftsman Vanadium, but I only bought this little guy, a 1723, because I already have the other sizes. (mostly manufacturer CI, though this one is AF)