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DougB442

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Here are my two Oldies...

a '50's or '60's Ausco 2 ton

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and a '40s Weaver 4 ton

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CRTDI

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Doug,

Really nice jacks!!:thumbup: I remember seeing your earlier posting on the Ausco unit, were you able to rebuild the hydraulic unit, and get your other items sorted? And I'm really digging that Weaver, the older units just have a bit more style about them.
 

DougB442

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I'm waiting for the rebuild kit from 'hiball', on that hydraulic unit, otherwise, it's sitting in pieces on the workbench waiting to get degreased and prepped for a fresh coat of prime and paint.

I need to order a new set of replacement rear caster wheels, but that won't hold up the painting...

Initially, I thought there were bronze bushings at the handle pivot that needed replacement, but it turns out they are steel. so they will remain, since they weren't that bad.

I haven't yet figured out the 'slop' issue with the handle actuator casting to piston pump connection, it might need a shim washer to take uo some of the wear. I also haven't been able to remove the handle from the lower handle casting, but have it soaking in a little penetrating oil. If that doesn't work, then I'll get the torch out and heat/expand the meal a little, getting the rust bond to pop. So I still have a few issues to deal with.

I probably could have left everything alone, since it worked great, but then what fun would that be????
 
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impulse922

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A co-worker inherited this jack from his father. He has asked Elroy to look it over. It functions OK but it bleeds down slowly under heavy load and the release valve is hard to turn.

Going to pull it down and at least put a kit in it if available. That's were Hiball comes in. Steve, please advise on kit availability

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DUDDDEEE, i have that same jack! it is a beast of floor jacks.
 

DougB442

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I also have the same "one"...although mine says 'Allied Hydraulics', and made in china on it. but it is about 20 years old, it doesn't leak, and works great for the abuse i've subjected it to over the years....

As Hiball siad, they are all alike....just wear different labels...
 
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I also have the same "one"...although mine says 'Allied Hydraulics', and made in china on it. but it is about 20 years old, it doesn't leak, and works great for the abuse i've subjected it to over the years....

As Hiball siad, they are all alike....just wear different labels...

Don't think mine has a label at all, unless it is hidden under the oil/grease my grandpa had subjected it to.

I'll look into it next time i go home. (currently at college)
 

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These aren't mine, I found them outside a small museum in Ridgecrest, Ca. All mechanical, no hydraulics.
 

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Here are a few pics of my Marquette.....first used this in 1980 when I borrowed it from a neighbor, as he was getting up in age, he gave it to me about 10 years ago.
 

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mrholeshot

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Ive been through about 50 jacks in the last 10 years in my shop. I had my Lincoln and Walker jacks rebuilt about every 6 months until one day I just decided to buy cheap jacks and then toss them when they went bad. I came out much cheaper. The last Jack I bought was a HF 4000 lb aluminum race jack.
http://www.harborfreight.com/rapid-pump-4000-lb-capacity-lightweight-low-profile-aluminum-racing-jack-92782.html

It works really well and keep it in my garage. The one on my race trailer is a Craftsman aluminum race jack. Most guys I know has had these tear up but mine has been going strong for 3 years.
I really like the old walker jacks that we had in the 60's-70's. Those lasted so well. Since the chinese jacks hit the market it's had to find a truly good jack. I tried the Napa Pro Jacks and what a waste of money they were. I don't use a jack much anymore as I use my lift more than anything
 

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Hiball

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Ive been through about 50 jacks in the last 10 years in my shop. I had my Lincoln and Walker jacks rebuilt about every 6 months until one day I just decided to buy cheap jacks and then toss them when they went bad. I came out much cheaper. The last Jack I bought was a HF 4000 lb aluminum race jack.

If you had to have your Walker/Lincoln jacks rebuilt every 6 mos, 1 of 2 things were happening, Either your rebuilder was clueless and not using the correct Seals or improperly installing them or you was severely overloading your jacks.
 

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yeah i have seen quite a few of the lincoln imports for sale here as well

Yep the market was flooded right before Lincoln decided to dump the hydraulic line, They sold there good name to many different Import brands. Im sure some of you can remember the Marquette line (Not the old USA Marquette Line) that was sold at Walmart under the lincoln Blue. I still see them pop up on ebay from time to time and people will buy them based on the Lincoln name itself. :(
 

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@dougb442

I really like that Ausco..do you have a picture of it next to the weaver?

Nope not yet, but the weaver is about a foot longer...

I have the Ausco in pieces right now, its amid the rebuild. I'll post pics when its all done.

I have to do the Weaver right after. There seems to be some sponginess to the weaver, and I don't want to chance having my 7600# truck drop while I'm jacking it up.
 
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I just picked up a Blackhawk SJ-23 1 1/2 ton jack a few days ago. Do any of you have any information on this jack? I can't get the handle to lift up all the way yet and I believe that I am missing some sort of release for the handle to lift up. I'll get pictures on here soon.
 

66 GMC Truckin

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OK guys. I took some pictures of the new Jack. Here she is in all her glory! :thumbup: Is this an SJ23 or an S17?? Will need a seal kit for this baby. Also need to figure out if handle turns as a release and how do I lift up the handle to the vertical position? :headscrat

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Well.... The tag says its a Model SJ-23 so i checked my books and it appears that "MY" rebuild kit covers the following models: S-17, S-17E, S-23 and SJ-23 as i stated my kits cover a variety of models and to my knowledge im the only one that does that. Its not cheap (Old Blackhawk jacks use tons of Packing) but it is complete at $87. I checked with a couple other suppliers including Blackhawkparts.com and they dont even list it, They list a S-23 but im not sure if the correct kit or not. I will make some calls tomorrow to see if i can find out if it will work with the SJ-23 if it does they will be your cheapest route. Most of the time my prices will beat anyone elses but there are exceptions and i dont have any problems sending GJ members to the best price location.

Steven

As far as the handle position, If i remember you pull out maybe on the knob?? I cant remember but there is away to store it in the up position.
 
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CRTDI

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I have an S-17 jack that is similar in design to this one. One of the main differences between my S-17 and this SJ-23 is the handle yoke. The yoke for the S-17 is one piece and the handle must be removed because it will not stow in a vertical position due to the mechanical link at the pump plunger. This jack has that same mechanical link at the pump plunger but has a jointed yoke for the purpose of handle stowage. Your picture of the yoke shows a threaded hole. This is the hole for the jack handle screw. On my S-17 this is the screw that I loosen to remove the jack handle assy.

On a not very clear picture of another SJ-23 that I have seen with the jack handle stowed, the handle is removed from the upper/aft jointed portion of the yoke, the upper/aft yoke portion is folded forward and the handle is stowed on the aft side of the folded over yoke assy. I am assuming that once the handle is removed that you then should be able to disengage and fold the upper/aft portion of the yoke forward. However, I really don't know how the handle is to be stowed once the yoke is folded over as I don't really see a means to support the handle on the aft side of the yoke. That picture also showed what might be a strap or retaining device from the lower/fwd yoke assy that looks as if it might be visible once the upper/aft yoke is folded over.

I don't have experience with this particular model and can only go by what I've seen in a crappy picture, but I would loosen/remove the jack handle screw. remove the handle assy, disengage/release and fold the upper/aft yoke assy fwd, and see if there is any way to stow the handle.

I hope you find a way to get the handle stowed as I would like to know this process as well. Please show us some pics after you get it figured out. And by the way, that's a really cool looking floor jack, :drool: thanks for sharing.
 
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I feel very fortunate to have come across both my Walker 782 and my Blackhawk S23 in just the past 24-hrs.

Extremely relieved I didn't fork out the $59.99 (with coupon) for the aluminum HF unit I had been debating on the past couple of weeks. In my search for reviews on various jacks, I came across this site. In a matter of days the Blackhawk and Walker popped up for sale. For pretty much the same amount as the HF unit I was able to buy both these wonderful pieces of equipment.

My reward for being patient. :)

I'll post pics of the Walker, shortly. After the wife leaves. She wasn't too happy when I rolled this into the apartment. Wait till she finds both of them on the floor, at my side of the bed! LoL.

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CRTDI

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I feel very fortunate to have come across both my Walker 782 and my Blackhawk S23 in just the past 24-hrs.

Extremely relieved I didn't fork out the $59.99 (with coupon) for the aluminum HF unit I had been debating on the past couple of weeks. In my search for reviews on various jacks, I came across this site. In a matter of days the Blackhawk and Walker popped up for sale. For pretty much the same amount as the HF unit I was able to buy both these wonderful pieces of equipment.

My reward for being patient. :)

I'll post pics of the Walker, shortly. After the wife leaves. She wasn't too happy when I rolled this into the apartment. Wait till she finds both of them on the floor, at my side of the bed! LoL.

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Thanks for taking the time to post pics of your new to you Blackhawk. I'm sure you'll enjoy using that tough little jack.

By now you have probably figured out that the handle does not stow vertical. Kind of a PIA, but the handle removes easily enough so it want take out your knees while you try to walk past it. :D

Does your jack have a release valve knob at the end of the handle or do you have to turn the actual handle to actuate the release valve?
 

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LOL... He has his jacks in the House. I work at my grandpa's shop because it would be WWIII if i destroyed our garage. I sure hope it doesnt incur any leaks, Im sure that wouldnt go over very well.
 

toy_boy

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LoL. Actually, I typically do all my wrenching at work during off hours.
Our apartment complex only has open carports. Sometime this weekend I'll drop them off at the warehouse at work. I just wanted to spend a couple of days familiarizing myself with them here at home, before putting them away. Fortunately neither one has a leak.

Truly amazing craftsmanship. I'm hooked. I want more! :)

Btw, CRTDI, I have to turn the handle to actuate the valve on the Blackhawk.
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CRTDI

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Here are my two Oldies...

a '50's or '60's Ausco 2 ton

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and a '40s Weaver 4 ton

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Here is an old advertisement for an Ausco jack.

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What I think is interesting, is that although it's an ad for an Ausco, it appears that a Weaver jack is depicted under the car in the upper portion of the ad.

Perhaps the Auto Specialties Company handled both products? :headscrat
 

DougB442

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Here is an old advertisement for an Ausco jack.

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What I think is interesting, is that although it's an ad for an Ausco, it appears that a Weaver jack is depicted under the car in the upper portion of the ad.

Perhaps the Auto Specialties Company handled both products?


As far as I know, Ausco and Weaver were completely different companies. The long frame floor jacks all looked quite similar back then, it was the little details like the handle, or the pump dust cover, or rear caster assembly, that set each one apart...

Also, all the Weaver's that I've seen, all have the 'jockey shift' piston release handle on the side of the jack handle, not a knob on the top...

great pickup on the picture in that add....did you read the license plate?

I also find it interesting, that this particular Ausco jack was patented in the early '60s, I posted a picture of the actual patent diagrams in another post, yet they use a mid '50s or earlier style car. Cars in the mid to late '60s didn't have tires or bumbers like that!
 
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I picked up a '74 Ausco that I found on CL about two weeks ago yesterday. I guess my first email asking a bunch of questions was a little too much for them, but the second one asking if they would be around so I could come and look at it was okay. Damn thing just barely fit in my Mazda 3. My 10+ year old import had stopped lifting the whole way, so it's in line for a rebuild. I snagged her for $75, and I figured I couldn't even get another import for that price, so what the hell. Thanks to HiBall for the identification help and advice on this one.
 

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DougB442

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I picked up a '74 Ausco that I found on CL about two weeks ago yesterday. I guess my first email asking a bunch of questions was a little too much for them, but the second one asking if they would be around so I could come and look at it was okay. Damn thing just barely fit in my Mazda 3. My 10+ year old import had stopped lifting the whole way, so it's in line for a rebuild. I snagged her for $75, and I figured I couldn't even get another import for that price, so what the hell. Thanks to HiBall for the identification help and advice on this one.

yeah, its kind of hard to transport these Ausco jacks when the darn handle doesn't come off.....

Another 'funny' thing about that jack...the Patent # listed is incorrect.....the last three digits should be '988', not 098....I'd hate to be the printing shop that made that mistake...
 
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This is the one I just picked up for $60 20ton not sure of the name ED
I think its weight is 20 tons as well, 2 people can not lift it.

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Its a old walker, im not sure if its 20 ton or 10 ton capacity. Regardless its heavy as hell your correct.
 

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Just thought I'd share a few pics of a recent purchase. Blackhawk S-13. At the base of the handle it's stamped S13.133, while on the side of the hydraulic unit it's stamped S13.05. I've already begun to carefully take her apart in anticipation of having the hydraulic unit rebuilt.

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Two aluminum China jacks among the clutter I'm slowly getting out of the garage... The blue HF one is distinctly not as good as the much more costly red one. I need a lower profile jack... I use the handles from these for cheating sometimes. I know I shouldn't, but it's convenient.
 

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Just thought I'd share a few pics of a recent purchase. Blackhawk S-13. At the base of the handle it's stamped S13.133, while on the side of the hydraulic unit it's stamped S13.05. I've already begun to carefully take her apart in anticipation of having the hydraulic unit rebuilt.

Always great to see another vintage Blackhawk jack, and you have a great looking one there. :drool: I see you're not rolling this one around on the carpet just yet though. :bounce: Those pump and ram compression nuts look pretty well beat on.

Hiball would be your man, if you don't have a shop locally than can assist with the hydraulic unit rebuild. If you ask nicely, :) he might even be willing to sacrifice some parts off his Blackhawk jack to help out.
 

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Always great to see another vintage Blackhawk jack, and you have a great looking one there. :drool: I see you're not rolling this one around on the carpet just yet though. :bounce: Those pump and ram compression nuts look pretty well beat on.

Hiball would be your man, if you don't have a shop locally than can assist with the hydraulic unit rebuild. If you ask nicely, :) he might even be willing to sacrifice some parts off his Blackhawk jack to help out.

LoL. No, can't roll this one on the carpet. I thought someone might question the mat this time around. Thank you for the compliments. I'm leaning on asking HiBall to work his magic and helping me save this pup.

I figure my passion for these things started here, why not keep the work "in-house" if at all possible. :)
 
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