Show off your Jack(s)

[CRTDI]

As I am not a floor jack expert and used my past experience and comparisons of my older Hein Werner unit as a basis of my purchasing decision. I have come to the conclusion that the Milwaukee design is definitely superior to the older Hein Werner design.

This website certainly implies that the Milwaukee unit is superior:

http://www.jackxchange.com/catalog/product-chart.cfm?modelnumber=40


Had I known the current history of the new Hein Werner adopted Lincoln/Walker design I may have given them a closer look. Without knowing the details, outward appearances suggest this newer old-adopted design looks eerily similar to what most of the Chinese units are using. Maybe they know how to knock-off a good thing when they see it.

The Milwaukee unit will cost you more. These days with of our own people struggling for work and just putting food on the table and discovering that the Milwaukee unit is manufactured in the U.S. by a U.S. company made this a personal no-brainer choice for me.

 

[Hiball]

Thanks guys. Looks like I will have to call.

Question is HW or MIlwaukee? Does one have a superior design over the other?

You cant go wrong with purchasing either of two brands, They both use time tested hydraulic systems.

As I am not a floor jack expert and used my past experience and comparisons of my older Hein Werner unit as a basis of my purchasing decision. I have come to the conclusion that the Milwaukee design is definitely superior to the older Hein Werner design.

This website certainly implies that the Milwaukee unit is superior:

http://www.jackxchange.com/catalog/product-chart.cfm?modelnumber=40

You made a great choice in buying your milwaukee jack, Yes the Chinese have been attempting to copy Lincolns design for years, Although the only thing they managed to get right was the frame style. Walker/lincoln for years could be identified from across the room by looking at those 90 degree flaps on top the frame. Now everyone and there brother is copying it, Fortunately that is the only comparison they shared. Congrats on your purchase...

 

[bry@n]

Pricing things out now. Milwaukee seesm to be considerably more expensive, compared to Hein Werner.

Aren't they both made in the USA?
Besides HW being owned by a Japanese company, is there a difference?


follow up:

I know Milwaukee is 100% made in the USA and with USA Materials. I called Hein Werner and they stated their jacks were 100% USA made and with USA materials.

I was told from Jackxchange.com that Milwaukee makes the best jacks.

 

[ATTappman]

Pricing things out now. Milwaukee seesm to be considerably more expensive, compared to Hein Werner.

Aren't they both made in the USA?
Besides HW being owned by a Japanese company, is there a difference?

Shinn Fu is Taiwanese, not Japanese. If that makes any difference.

Good question, I want to know the answer too.

 

[bry@n]

Shinn Fu is Taiwanese, not Japanese. If that makes any difference.

Good question, I want to know the answer too.

Okay...thanks for the correction. Either way. I'm looking for a complete USA kinda deal and I belive that is gonna be Milwaukee. Just a question of if the Milwaukee is worth the extra $$

 

[CRTDI]

bry@n,

Once you've decided between the Model 20 or Model 40 based on your application(s), give Caroline a call at Milwaukee Hydraulics, she'll quote you pricing that's better than what you'll find on the websites.

If the product hasn't quite won you over, her knowledge and professional customer service will. Also, you won't have to press 1 for English or go through a frustating b/s phone menu to talk with her either

I had great service from order to delivery. Other companies should take notice. If you want me to pay, you have to pay attention. Milwaukee Hydraulics certainly paid attention to me.

Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase. Please don't forget to post pics of your new floor jack.

 

[KNS Autosport]

Omega Magic Lift Low Profile 2 ton
Torin Rapid Lift 3 ton

 

[ATTappman]

Omega Magic Lift Low Profile 2 ton
Torin Rapid Lift 3 ton

What's your opinion of the Omega jack?

 

[bry@n]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Whats the deal with the Omega?

 

[Hiball]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Whats the deal with the Omega?

Omega is owned by Shinn Fu, They produce the majority of the Hydraulic jacks you see ranging from Walmart to the Snap on truck. I will say this about the "Magic Lift", How it works is there is small rod that runs inside the cylinder and on your first pump it lifts the Arm up to the load, Which is great right? Well kinda.. You still have a couple "Free" pumps where nothing happens after initial lift so the cylinder can catch up depending on how much Oil was sucked into the cylinder upon the intitial lift. They use Oring on both ends of the Resevoir, Sealed Pump (oring.. Blah) and are fairly solid jacks. I suspect the "Arcan" Jack everybody raves about is probably made by the same manufacturer, Not sure if it has the quick lift technology although. Check Prices......Do your homework.....

 

[bry@n]

Oh not me. I know what I am getting

I was just asking.

 

[wreckercologist]

They use Oring on both ends of the Resevoir, Sealed Pump (oring.. Blah)

Are the higher quality jacks using a type of seal that is more square with more surface area? Just curious, I run into this at work on hydraulic cylinders. It seems like the cheaper stuff that tends to fail uses more o-rings as opposed to the seals that have a lip, kinda like a wheel bearing seal.

Is there a way to convert a jack to better seals? I'm guessing yes, but it probably requires a trip to a machine shop, which would kill any cost savings.

 

[Hiball]

Are the higher quality jacks using a type of seal that is more square with more surface area? Just curious, I run into this at work on hydraulic cylinders. It seems like the cheaper stuff that tends to fail uses more o-rings as opposed to the seals that have a lip, kinda like a wheel bearing seal.

Is there a way to convert a jack to better seals? I'm guessing yes, but it probably requires a trip to a machine shop, which would kill any cost savings.

Well... Yes and No. This is what Walker/Lincoln/NewHW's use for sealing on there Pumps.

These is called Vee packing, It is stout as hell and renewable by compressing it. As far as converting older oring over it would definitely take some maching to make it right. Now there are some good examples where Orings are used and they are fine.. Milwaukee jacks use Orings on both pump pistons and using tight tolerances make it work rather effective, similar to a Cylinder. Me myself i prefer Ucups, Vee packing because it has a proven track record in longevity if installed correctly. This isnt a bash on Milwaukee jacks because they are also proven winners, Just my opinion.

 

[KNS Autosport]

What's your opinion of the Omega jack?

I love the size, one of the best jacks for working on lowerd cars, Asides from that its a real piece of ****, after just over a year of owning it the "Magic lift" aspect works when it wants to and jacking up the car takes quite a few pumps to get a vehicle off the ground.

 

[Hiball]

I love the size, one of the best jacks for working on lowerd cars, Asides from that its a real piece of ****, after just over a year of owning it the "Magic lift" aspect works when it wants to and jacking up the car takes quite a few pumps to get a vehicle off the ground.

Welcome to the World of "Give me the Newest Technology at the Cheapest Price" On the Plus side, General hand tools and a vise can get you up and going along with some Metric Orings. Normally the first indication that the "Magic Lift" oring is going bad is that upon the first stroke the Arm will go up then fall back down a few inches (or more if things are real bad) Get you a metric Oring kit and Tear that bad boy down. I can get going Free of charge on my end.

 

[Convulsor]

Just picked this jack up at an auction for $7. Looks like a Walker with the T-handle and release knob. It lifts about as high as the top of the handle but doesn't currently work. The pics aren't very good. Any idea what model this is? How old and what it's worth? It needs a wheel welded on.

 

[Convulsor]

I also picked up this working walker unit-lift No.798 Mechanical transmission jack for $25.
Capacity 1000 LBS.
Range: 3" to 26-7-8"

 

[Paumanok]

CRTDI,
How do you switch between raise/lower on that nice milwaukee? Twist the handle?

 

[Hiball]

Just picked this jack up at an auction for $7. Looks like a Walker with the T-handle and release knob. It lifts about as high as the top of the handle but doesn't currently work. The pics aren't very good. Any idea what model this is? How old and what it's worth? It needs a wheel welded on.

Its reall hard to determine what kind of jack that is, at first i thought it was some HodgePodge invention. Going by the handle and Release it appears maybe to be a Hein Werner. I have no earthly idea what it was used for or model number. If i was guessing i would guess ****** use, If you could snap some pics of the hydraulic unit itself i could certainly identify the brand.

 

[smotalchaos]

No one with US jack jacks huh? How do you guys think these compare to milwaukees?

 

[Hiball]

No one with US jack jacks huh? How do you guys think these compare to milwaukees?

Us Jacks claim to 100% American made is not exactly true, Yes they manufacture "Weaver" Jacks which are 100% American and a DAMN fine jack and my favorite, But... They are extremely expensive and only come in Long Frame design. They also sell American Made Bottle jacks but also push there imported line with the same sticker. The good thing about this is they dont try and hide it.

 

[CRTDI]

CRTDI,
How do you switch between raise/lower on that nice milwaukee? Twist the handle?

Go back to my #72 posting in this thread and look at the fifth picture showing the handle assy. At the end of the handle what appears to be an end cap in the pic, is actually the release/actuating knob for raising and lowering of the lifting arm. Attached to the knob, is a rod within the handle that attaches to the release screw.

Page #2 of this pdf file shows the detailed assy.

http://www.milwaukeehydraulic.com/model40.pdf

Also, on page #4 of the pdf flie you will see warranty info. Warranty is stated as 1 year. The warranty info that arrived with my jack was revised to cover two years.

 

[CRTDI]

Just picked this jack up at an auction for $7. Looks like a Walker with the T-handle and release knob. It lifts about as high as the top of the handle but doesn't currently work. The pics aren't very good. Any idea what model this is? How old and what it's worth? It needs a wheel welded on.

Only $7, what a great deal!! I've never seen a jack configured like that. Any idea what it was used for?

 

[Lippyp]

Heres mine:

Sealey 3 ton super rocket lift

little 2 ton bottle jack I use for my trailer

five foot Jackall hi-lift/farm jack, will get the back of the truck nice and high off the ground, a left over from my off-roading days really. My current 4x4 has nowhere to use it on, damn plastic bumpers!

We had some tyres fitted last week on my wifes Nissan X-Trail by a mobile tyre fitter, the only jack he had in his van was an airbag one like the little yellow one but it had a much higher lift on it and a handle to position it with. Very quick in use.

 

[Convulsor]

Here are some more pics of my auction purchases. The big plate doesn't come off. Maybe it was used for mufflers? That American Scale screw jack was maybe $1.

 

[Convulsor]

Here's a Hein Werner 3-Ton bottle jack

 

[Hiball]

Here are some more pics of my auction purchases. The big plate doesn't come off. Maybe it was used for mufflers? That American Scale screw jack was maybe $1.

I believe its a Ausco jack, Its really hard to see with all the grime. At first i thought it was a old blackhawk but im leaning towards Ausco. Is there any marking on the handle near the release? Stampings?

 

[Convulsor]

It looks like there is a "G81" and a "P" in a circle I didn't see anything else. I'll try to degrease it and power wash it soon.

 

[KM1013]

Anyone have any experience with the Ranger RFJ-3000LPF? I'm looking for something low profile with a good bit of reach.

 

[Hiball]

It looks like there is a "G81" and a "P" in a circle I didn't see anything else. I'll try to degrease it and power wash it soon.

What is stamped on top of the Release knob?

 

[Elroy]

That jack looks like it could be used to hang bombs under a airplane

 

[Convulsor]

What is stamped on top of the Release knob?

"Close" with a clockwise arrow

 

[Convulsor]

Found a tag under paint and grime:
"Manufactured by J.W. Lewis & Co., Textile Trucks, Spartanburg, S.C., Model K6, Serial 4263, Capacity 2000, Patent No. 2189010"

 

[Hiball]

Found a tag under paint and grime:
"Manufactured by J.W. Lewis & Co., Textile Truck, Spartanburg, S.C., Model K6, Serial 4263, Capacity 2000, Patent No. 2189010

Id like to tell you what you have there but im at a loss of words, There is so much hodge podge that i dont know where to start, The pump has Blackhawk tendencies, the release mechanism looks Hein wernish as does the frame minus all the support offset wheels. I sent the pics off to a buddy but he didnt have a clue.

 

[Convulsor]

After degreasing and power washing here are some more pics.
I put oil in it and it works

 

[ears]

It looks like this was used to haul big rolls of fabric/thread in a mill. Pretty interesting piece. Here is a link to the patent description.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2189010.html

 

[Convulsor]

Thanks for the info. Hein Werner 20 ton bottle jack. I wish I still had pics of the 3 Weaver jacks I had. 20, 10 and 4 ton jacks, sold for big profit.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

I don't have any "actual" pics of my jacks..

Sealy 2200HL on the left, Arcan 3-ton on the right, holding up a MK II Golf engine and gearbox:

Arcan being used to hold up the driveshaft to put it back in my friend's Mercedes:

The 2200HL being used to hold up the gearbox in the same car:

 

[sctattooer]

if you are going to get an airbag jack, why not something like this an air x jack

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:...ilence.com/media/2008/04/exhaust-air-jack.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.switched.com/media/2008/09/swtitan.jpg

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I have one of these I keep in the van. Takes up no space at all when empty, and lifts super high. Effortless, too!

 

[Convulsor]

Here's a Walker 930 D 5 ton bottle jack and a Walker floor jack. 882?