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Bellaireroad

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I picked up a Canedy Otto press, and having trouble getting the ram out. Is it supposed to slide out? I was able to get it to twist 180 degrees, but it is pretty hard to move. Here is a picture with the lever and ratchet gear removed. 4ff3eba47d5fcf4a972314c80eb408df.jpg






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Techie1961

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I picked up a Canedy Otto press, and having trouble getting the ram out. Is it supposed to slide out? I was able to get it to twist 180 degrees, but it is pretty hard to move. Here is a picture with the lever and ratchet gear removed. 4ff3eba47d5fcf4a972314c80eb408df.jpg






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Will it move up and down? It should slide out easily from what I can tell. Try some emery cloth to clean it up a bit and get it moving with some penetrating oil. Make sure there aren't any burrs.
 

Bellaireroad

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Will it move up and down? It should slide out easily from what I can tell. Try some emery cloth to clean it up a bit and get it moving with some penetrating oil. Make sure there aren't any burrs.



Hello Techie... It will slide up and down, but only if it is rotated to exactly one spot .. 5 to 10 degrees rotation in either direction and it freezes . I think you are right ... Some penetrating oil and emery cloth may do the trick
 

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Not exactly an "arbor" press, but a press nonetheless. Originally for staking turret posts in a printed circuit board (obsolete process) tie ram to table height was small. Chopped the base, put a riser block under it with a new base. Stroke is only about 5/8", but works fine for assembling pens, and jewelry tasks. Tapped the ram so different length bolts can be swapped to adjust reach. The various anvils shown are for pen assembly. All scrap parts, total cost $0 + a little shop time.
 

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Nice arbor press. Check for burrs on the edge of the ram teeth, if it seen lots of use over the years there may have formed burrs on the edge stopping you from rotating the ram. And ya emery and oil too. Let us know how you got it out. It will be a nice resto project. Keep the pics coming. BCD
 

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I joined the arbor press club today. Anyone know how to determine year of manufacture on these things?

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Bellaireroad

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Nice arbor press. Check for burrs on the edge of the ram teeth, if it seen lots of use over the years there may have formed burrs on the edge stopping you from rotating the ram. And ya emery and oil too. Let us know how you got it out. It will be a nice resto project. Keep the pics coming. BCD



Spot on about small burrs on the teeth...some Prussian blue followed by gentle filing an emery cloth and now it slides like silkff0995ac7b77abd084c7b28d16f71a72.jpgbba1acdb37a97c5f141051aee472bb16.jpg
 

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My Dake #1 is missing this "tinners rivet" which rides against the ram. I'd like to just make a suitable replacement rather than buying the factory part. Can anyone show me exactly what this part looks like? Is it made of steel or something else?

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Never saw one, but I'll bet it looks like a brass rivet. I assume it provides a little drag on the ram to keep it from falling too easily. Larger OD to fit the hole, smaller OD to fit inside the spring, entry level lathe job.
 

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The description of "Tinner's Rivet" is spot on. The pin is essentially the same. Just pop a rivet in the spring and keep going. If it wears out faster than the original, well then, the rivets are cheap enough to keep replacing them.
 

Bellaireroad

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The description of "Tinner's Rivet" is spot on. The pin is essentially the same. Just pop a rivet in the spring and keep going. If it wears out faster than the original, well then, the rivets are cheap enough to keep replacing them.



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All done with it... Works great
 

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Hmmm..I'll add to the list. Restored a few years ago on separate thread. Need to get it mounted to a new base.
 

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I just finished restoring 2 over the weekend.
A 1 ton Dake #001 (fire engine theme w/gold letters and pinstripes) and a 2 ton Greenerd #2 (metallic green w/ gold letters)

Sorry for the lousy picture, my tablet has a cheap camera.

I still have another Dake 001 sitting on the bench awaiting it's turn for some lovin'.
 

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Thread update!
Found this #1 Greenerd at a flea market, and couldn't pass it up.
Had never seen a 3 handled ship's wheel, and especially not on a press this size. Nice shape, came with the correct die plate with pin and it still wears it's original paint. Will clean up well. Just to sweet to pass up. What more could you ask? :D
First time I have had one with a S/N tag intact. Any way of dating or any info on the S/N's?
 

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Bellaireroad

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Thread update!
Found this #1 Greenerd at a flea market, and couldn't pass it up.
Had never seen a 3 handled ship's wheel, and especially not on a press this size. Nice shape, came with the correct die plate with pin and it still wears it's original paint. Will clean up well. Just to sweet to pass up. What more could you ask? :D
First time I have had one with a S/N tag intact. Any way of dating or any info on the S/N's?

Great find...I would not have passed on it either.... Even though I don't need another one:)
 

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I love ship's wheel presses. I tried to buy a 6-foot tall one from a machine shop some years ago but even tho they had a large hydraulic press, and said they weren't using the ship's wheel press they wouldn't sell.

Then, out of the blue, I came across this Famco in an outdoor machinery salvage yard. It had had a hard life and was missing the brake, the pawl, ratcheting handle and daisy wheel. Also it had been knocked over and two handles had been broken off the ship's wheel. The price was a Ben Franklin. One good point is the ram was in pristine condition and did not have a mushroomed head.

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I checked with Famco but they wanted almost $1,200 for all the parts. So.....
after restoring and painting it, I made a brake out of an old bronze doorknob:

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Then a buddy gave me a daisy wheel for postage, and I made a pawl out of a big grade 5 bolt. My crude wooden pattern is sitting on the daily wheel.

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Then I took two pieces of 3/4" steel and welded them together, had holes drilled at the machine shop and made a ratchet arm.

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Making a short-shaft water pump out of a long-shaft pump. Works great.

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Posted this in my vintage thread on my Atlas model 0, but thought it may get more love here.



Investigating doing a "ratcheting" mod, but without the conventional ratchet.



Saw the ratcheting mod online where people are grinding off two teeth here to allow the ram to be raised and ratcheted when the lever is not in an advantageous position for good leverage.



Seems this could be done also after the teeth with a relief ground out. Trying hard to find any negatives from this mod but haven't. Am i overlooking some negative??



Also, my ram can be flipped and the other side has a hole drilled, i would assume for punches etc.
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And there's my recently acquired monster Dake. 2 1/2 P compound press. Thinking i may sell this one as it's kind of overkill for my needs right now.
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I found this on CL with a stand one of the few tools I have bought this year that doesn't need to be restored. I will clean up the handle and shaft and put it to work.
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JZiggy

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Nice, looks just like mine! I appreciate the lead for the brass rivet, great idea. Are you going to try to find one for yours?
 

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I've been looking for a small arbor press off and on for the past year. In last weeks search I found this press that, while small, was just too nice to pass up. had to freshen up the blueing and remove a bit of rust but was in really good shape.

The ram is a dovetail with the rack cut into the flat and the base was hand scraped, though quite a bit of wear since then. The base is 3" by 4"

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Here is my $100 purchase. Needed some love, but I've really enjoyed having it so far.
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I've been looking for a small arbor press off and on for the past year. In last weeks search I found this press that, while small, was just too nice to pass up. had to freshen up the blueing and remove a bit of rust but was in really good shape.

The ram is a dovetail with the rack cut into the flat and the base was hand scraped, though quite a bit of wear since then. The base is 3" by 4"

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Thats a really cool arbor press, thank for sharing.

Who made it?
 

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That thing is too cool Oops! Perfect for small jobs like tin rivets in kydex or similar.

Nice job on the resto cahark, a total steel for $100 plus some elbow grease.
 

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This has probably been shared hundreds of times, but this is an old Jacobs chuck that I had laying around. It really needed a rebuild, but as a garage sale find for less than a few bucks, I was not too concerned about it.

I set it up in the mill and pocketed 4 spots for magnets. Now I am able to use the chuck to hold punches and pins. Almost like a third hand when I can't hold everything at once.




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Picket this one from the dumpster at work when they shut down one if the production areas.
 

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Cahark Wow on the chuck idea! hadn't seen that nor considered it. I have a chuck in mind now to do something with, especially since my arbor has a hole and bolt on one end.

Damn I miss Enco sales, could've just snagged another cheap taper to try to anneal and mill to fit that hole.
 

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I've been looking for a small arbor press off and on for the past year. In last weeks search I found this press that, while small, was just too nice to pass up. had to freshen up the blueing and remove a bit of rust but was in really good shape.

The ram is a dovetail with the rack cut into the flat and the base was hand scraped, though quite a bit of wear since then. The base is 3" by 4"

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looks like a gem
 

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My 400$ Famco 4c(and all the stuff that came with it, maybe I will broach a hole someday)
I'm not sure if the stand is factory but I like the chip bin below the press.
Some tooling
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Changing a tire last weekend
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My greenard 3.5 in the fabrication area. This one is my favorite size. A good press is as useful as a shop vise imho.
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Greenard 1 on my reloading bench, fleamarket find

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