Outlawmws
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The digital depth readout is not period correct! 
Show us your cool, "old" drill press
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macgee
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Smokeshow69
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Here's other pics from different angles
That is a great idea on that motor plate to mount the switch! Nice work
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macgee
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The digital depth readout is not period correct!
Correct, Just had it laying around and thought I would try it out and see if it was useable. Very easy to remove and no holes will be visible.
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Thanks Smokeshow
crguy
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I would recommend an intermediate drive pulley so the speed can be slowed enough for most metal drilling or even Forstner bit use.
Dennis Leigh Henry
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Mac , great drill press and a few years older than I..[emoji846]. Love the upgrades..
What make is the X-Y table? I’ve got the SBL X-Y table to use but with a SBL vertical mill.. don’t use it much.
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What make is the X-Y table? I’ve got the SBL X-Y table to use but with a SBL vertical mill.. don’t use it much.
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bmw57isetta
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Moodna:
Sure looks like a Duro Metal Products model 3080 sans front pulley cover. Note the "3080" in the part number. That's the pre-War model that was upgraded to a 3083 in the late '40's. I've got a 3083 I restored and a couple of the part numbers that are cast in, the table for instance, still have the "3080" on them.
Sure looks like a Duro Metal Products model 3080 sans front pulley cover. Note the "3080" in the part number. That's the pre-War model that was upgraded to a 3083 in the late '40's. I've got a 3083 I restored and a couple of the part numbers that are cast in, the table for instance, still have the "3080" on them.
MoodnaCreekArms
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Awesome, thank you. Appreciate the info. I haven't been able to match to any pictures yet, so any lead is great.
Craptain
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Had to check. I have a Duro "industrial" dp that looks nothing like that. But mine turns out to be about 1950.
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macgee
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Thanks Dennis,
Sorry for the duplicate pics and posts above, my computer crashed while doing it and didn't think the first one posted.
The X-Y table was made by MasterCraft that was located in Hollywood, CA. They made these tables for Atlas and Craftsman back in the day.
The X-Y has come in handy for making quick work when needing multiple accurate holes that need to match a pattern.
I used it make the bolt holes for the 8-32 hex bolts on the cover plate for the power switch. Rather get the holes right, than having to fabricate another milled face plate.
Also, nice not having to un-clamp the piece every time you're drilling multiple holes on a piece, you just dial it to the next hole. The orig jaw clamps are the key for painless hold down, super easy and quick.
If I want to rambo, need more table and accuracy is not important, it comes off easily, one big center bolt and the x-y lives below out of the way on the base plate.
I've been using the DP much more now a days, its fun to use. The X-Y is a luxury item and rambo'ing without one can also be effective and quick. The DP has very little TIR and the motor has nice torque.
Some details of the depth gauge mount and of table. The depth gauge was originally a hand held router bit height gauge, they're cheap.
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bmw57isetta
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Moodna:
After taking a second look, I concur with Craptain. The 3080 is a larger model. I think what you have there is a cobbled 3083. It was the entry level, rock and roll drill press in Duro's line starting in the late '40's. From the head casting back looks to be some sort of homemade setup. The front pulley and motor pulley appear to be reversed from the original. In that configuration, the original pulley guard wouldn't fit.
Here's a pic of mine when I got it for reference as well as a shot out of a Duro products catalog off of vintagemachinery.org site. The difference in a 3080 and 3083 is pretty obvious. Also, the part number you showed, H-3080-11 is definitly a Duro number.
Please post a few more closeup pix at your convenience.
After taking a second look, I concur with Craptain. The 3080 is a larger model. I think what you have there is a cobbled 3083. It was the entry level, rock and roll drill press in Duro's line starting in the late '40's. From the head casting back looks to be some sort of homemade setup. The front pulley and motor pulley appear to be reversed from the original. In that configuration, the original pulley guard wouldn't fit.
Here's a pic of mine when I got it for reference as well as a shot out of a Duro products catalog off of vintagemachinery.org site. The difference in a 3080 and 3083 is pretty obvious. Also, the part number you showed, H-3080-11 is definitly a Duro number.
Please post a few more closeup pix at your convenience.
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aggie113
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Took some time to collect the parts for the x y table on mine. It seemed all the good tables were no where to be found right when I wanted one. Finally got a good deal on one with a complete base but then finding a good set of table vise was also an ordeal. I ended up with several extras on one side 
I am using it as my primary base since it's the same size as the regular one, though I do have the other base just swung off to the side. I would love to get something like macgee has for the rotational control of the table. The original parts are a little tucked under to easily get to for adjusting tightness. I'm not responsible for any of the paint yet, don't know if I'll try to match everything up or not down the line.
I am using it as my primary base since it's the same size as the regular one, though I do have the other base just swung off to the side. I would love to get something like macgee has for the rotational control of the table. The original parts are a little tucked under to easily get to for adjusting tightness. I'm not responsible for any of the paint yet, don't know if I'll try to match everything up or not down the line.
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macgee
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Your drill press looks good.
I got lucky and was able to use some Brown & Sharpe Parallel Clamp screws I had laying around; I knew they would be useful one day
.I also used 2 longer brass screws for each middle grub screw for each set of grubs to clamp down any play in the dovetails when drilling. Works miles better than the orig.
With my previous Mastercraft from years ago was never adjusted rotationally because it was such a hassle.
aggie113
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I'll have to try to locate a set of those B&S clamp screws...
Now, does anyone know where I can get a proper brand placard I can mount to front of that very bare conehead?
Now, does anyone know where I can get a proper brand placard I can mount to front of that very bare conehead?
macgee
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Now, does anyone know where I can get a proper brand placard I can mount to front of that very bare conehead?
You mean something like this?
threeputt
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Vintage Atlas
Made a safety hold down when drilling with channel iron .
Because I stripped the part that raises and lowers the table I decided to just jam two nuts together on threaded rod and use a ratchet and socket. Works perfect.
Made a safety hold down when drilling with channel iron .
Because I stripped the part that raises and lowers the table I decided to just jam two nuts together on threaded rod and use a ratchet and socket. Works perfect.
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crguy
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Wouldn't it have been better to repair the original table lift? Plain threaded rod like that won't hold up in that use very long.
threeputt
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The gear is stripped and could find or get anyone to make me one. That's the original threaded rod, I should have stated that. It stuck through gear case enough to do it the way I did with those two nuts jammed together.
I have to manually move it down which is annoying but for now but it cranks up fine using the ratchet on the nuts. Better than not working at all.
The crank handle is still there, just not working inside. Hope I can find the correct part one day. I still look.
Its been working fine for three years now like this. I use it often
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Outlawmws
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Three, did you try measuring the gear and checking the Boston gear catalog? Many older machine tools used "Standard" gears or a standard gear with slight mods.
crguy
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Gears can always be found or a new one made. You just need to do more research.
threeputt
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No, but I can give it a try. What happen is I left this shop for 20 years and never used this drill press.
It sit in this building that is not insulated for all that time and moisture took its toll. It was hard to raise and lower but it worked until that one day I was in a hurry and it stripped. I removed all the surface rust but it was too late to save the gear .
When I left this building in 1996 I didn't think I would ever be back here but in Jan 2017 everything changed and here I am working on something everyday.
I will see what I can find. Thanks for the tip
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lis2323
Your setup is super nice. Thanks for sharing
Your setup is super nice. Thanks for sharing
DaveT
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lis2323: Is that an upside down trailer lift that you fabricated into a table lift?
DaveT
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That is an excellent idea. Does it work pretty well?
MoodnaCreekArms
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Thanks BMW and Craptain, love the info and pics. I have no doubt based on the other items picked up with this that the previous owner heavily modified this. Other than the obvious window weights and pulley system to raise/lower the table I hadn't expected this was previously a bench top model. Here's a few more close ups.
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crguy
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I frequently found raising/lowering the drill press table to be a hassle, especially when there is something heavy on the table. When I found this Buffalo 16 with the sliding head I knew that was what I wanted. Much easier to move the counterbalanced head up/down than cranking a table lift.
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I bought this off Craigslist in the greater Seattle area. Normally the cool old stuff gets snatched up quick but this lingered so I took a shot.
Sears Roebuck model 101.03682
Appears to be actually manufactured by Atlas.
EDIT: Found it eventually on VM (here), via via this page on GJ
Totally cool and HEAVY belt cover. It will only hinge open with the spindle down. Is design like that normal?
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Sears Roebuck model 101.03682
Appears to be actually manufactured by Atlas.
EDIT: Found it eventually on VM (here), via via this page on GJ
Totally cool and HEAVY belt cover. It will only hinge open with the spindle down. Is design like that normal?
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lafester
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That is pretty sweet. Considering the table lift is worth $400 you probably did well.
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FrankLee
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Congrats on that machine!
That bracket for the cover is a custom modification and it was repainted, but with the table lift and full cover, that was an excellent find!
Yes, the quill must be lowered before the cover can be opened.
2419 - Table Lift, Atlas (1941-1960) - Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5
JoCoSawdust
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czeglin: Great find on the alienhead, particularly with the table lift!
Frank: What bracket for the cover are you referring to, the one that "catches" it when it's open? If so I believe that was a late OEM addition. I have two alienheads. The gray wartime press has that exact bracket, the blue pre-war does not nor does it have tapped holes to attach one.
Frank: What bracket for the cover are you referring to, the one that "catches" it when it's open? If so I believe that was a late OEM addition. I have two alienheads. The gray wartime press has that exact bracket, the blue pre-war does not nor does it have tapped holes to attach one.
FrankLee
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Interesting. That’s good to know. I had a couple early ones then.
DaveT
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I bought this off Craigslist in the greater Seattle area. Normally the cool old stuff gets snatched up quick but this lingered so I took a shot.
Sears Roebuck model 101.03682
Appears to be actually manufactured by Atlas.
EDIT: Found it eventually on VM (here), via via this page on GJ
Totally cool and HEAVY belt cover. It will only hinge open with the spindle down. Is design like that normal?
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Man I would say you found a gem there. With that belt cover and a table lift you have some very hard to find items. I am Jealous, I have a similar model without the lift and cover.
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macgee
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Nice job Ed, your HDP-125 drill press looks beautiful.
How do you like the new power switch?
How do you like the new power switch?
JoCoSawdust
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Beautiful machine Ed. As usual, your work on it is outstanding.