Show us your cool, "old" drill press

[Outlawmws]

What speeds are available? If both are the "standard" 4 speed DP's and condition is similar, I'm with Nine and the Craftsman.

If one has the third pulley and you drill steel a lot, particularly larger holes say from 3/8 up, then you want the lower speeds...

How is spindle runout on each? That is also a factor...

 

[nine4gmc]

Here you go Outlaw, this is that old Delta 15-665 I was working on a few years ago. I finally got it back together and went with a 3ph motor and VFD. I will be adding a for/rev switch in the original switch hole in the head and probably adding a motor to the table lift. Pics of the progress in my Projects thread.

 

[Outlawmws]

Hi Nine, I saw that in your other thread! Nice job!

I went with a treadmill motor on my Rockwell, No reverse but for a DP, unless I need to drill with a LH bit, not really needed. (Actually I could reverse it, it would just be a bit weaker...)

 

[Craptain]

I picked this up a couple of weeks ago from Emeraldcoupe. I probably paid too much but the condition is peachy. I love the table lift, but the table itself does have an arc of shame. Virtually no runout. Truly a joy to use. I plan on adding a 3 phase motor with VFD then this could be the last dp I own.

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[nine4gmc]

Couple relays to reverse polarity Ooutlaw, I think that would reverse the dc motor? Like a power window relay setup.

Great score Craptain, that table lift makes it worth whatever you paid.

 

[trijeff]

Thanks for the quick and informative replies guys! Will probably make a move on the Cman if everything checks out

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Here is a delta 220 it had a pretty bad paint job so soaked it in simple green. The frame came out really good with most of the original paint in tact. The rest needed a new paint job and the motor smoked after I ran it for a few min. It was an original motor just worn out bearings were in great shape. Couldn't find a delt for a decent price so I found a vintage Craftsman in great shape so slapped it on there.

 

[G20-Budo]

Here is a delta 220 it had a pretty bad paint job so soaked it in simple green. The frame came out really good with most of the original paint in tact. The rest need a new paint job and the motor smoked after I ran it for a few min. It was an original motor I found a vintage Craftsman in great shape so that's what's on it.

I saw this one in person, it's a very nice DP!!

 

[vintage nut]

Color looks pretty spot on. Those Delta's are some of my favorites. I haven't actually got one, but my dad has two in his shop.

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[Provincial]

I saw a very old Walker Turner floor model drill press at a garage sale today. I believe it was "Leader by Walker Turner" and it was very old. It was a lightly built machine that looked like it was trying to look like a Camelback. It had a factory mount for an electric motor/belt tensioner with an idler where a four-step pulley drove a pair of v-belts to the spindle. It was partially disassembled, and the motor/mounting plate was sitting on a bench nearby. The motor was totally enclosed, gloss black, with an integral toggle switch. The switch had a molded handle coming out of an elliptical hole. There were no guards whatsoever. The table had a couple of divots, but was pretty nice overall. The chuck was knurled, and looked like a slight improvement over the old Post Drill chucks.

It was priced at $175.00, so I left it for someone who would appreciate it. I don't have a spot for it.

 

[carvedtop]

Hi all,
I know this thread is old but I'm new to the vintage tools game and just purchased a Delta DP220 bench model, and wanted to add to the post. I got this on CL for $150. I believe that was made in late 1936 or early 1937. The head badge is 1937 but the head case has a light tab, which I think was only available in 1936. The only missing part is the Quill pointer but I'm searching for one. It also has what looks like the original motor.

RayK

 

[Craptain]

Welcome carvedtop. This is an old thread in the sense that it was started long ago, but very much a current thread. We have quite a few Delta's on here and yours is a welcome addition. It looks great cosmetically, so how is it mechanically?

 

[ALLFAST]

That I'd RAD....the motor wiring does look to be original or very nicely modified from along time ago. She's a Doosey. Nice job.

Shawn

 

[454ragtop]

Hi all,
I know this thread is old but I'm new to the vintage tools game and just purchased a Delta DP220 bench model, and wanted to add to the post. I got this on CL for $150. I believe that was made in late 1936 or early 1937. The head badge is 1937 but the head case has a light tab, which I think was only available in 1936. The only missing part is the Quill pointer but I'm searching for one. It also has what looks like the original motor.

RayK

Welcome, cool old drill press, don't usually see that model with a 3 spoke handle, way cool. I have a couple DP220 heads I'm parting out, have a pointer and probably the pointer mount if you need it.
Jim

 

[exmaxima1]

Hi all,
I know this thread is old but I'm new to the vintage tools game and just purchased a Delta DP220 bench model, and wanted to add to the post. I got this on CL for $150. I believe that was made in late 1936 or early 1937. The head badge is 1937 but the head case has a light tab, which I think was only available in 1936. The only missing part is the Quill pointer but I'm searching for one. It also has what looks like the original motor.

RayK

Looks to be in great condition, not a blem on the table.

 

[nine4gmc]

Amazing condition for 80yrs old!!

 

[jrodell27]

Might as well join the DP220 party. Here's mine - I did not restore this machine and bought it like this and got lucky on my timing. I purchased this from an old Boeing machinist & hobby cabinet maker as he and his wife were retiring and downsizing their home, which meant a lot of his machinery had to go. He had a floor model of this same caliber and he opted to sell the bench version. He also threw in an unopened Delta drum sander kit and an old (and complete) Delta mortise and tenon kit from the 60's/70's. I'm lucky to have been able to find this machine within my budget in such good condition.

 

[ALLFAST]

Wonderful!

 

[carvedtop]

Welcome carvedtop. This is an old thread in the sense that it was started long ago, but very much a current thread. We have quite a few Delta's on here and yours is a welcome addition. It looks great cosmetically, so how is it mechanically?

The drill runs really nice considering that the bet is shot. I did some test drills with a new bit before I bought it and it seems to have no real runout. The motor seems strong. Overall it needs a good cleaning and lube, paint and polish.

RayK

 

[carvedtop]

Hi 454ragtop,
YES, I would love to have the pointer and mount. Let me know what you need to make it so.
Thanks!
RayK

 

[Craptain]

The drill runs really nice considering that the bet is shot. I did some test drills with a new bit before I bought it and it seems to have no real runout. The motor seems strong. Overall it needs a good cleaning and lube, paint and polish.

RayK

Clean and lube are always a good plan.
Polish if you will but does it really need paint? It is after all only original once. And it looks pretty damn good in the pictures.

 

[ALLFAST]

I second that motion. Maybe try giving it a good gentle cleaning/sponge bath with a non harsh cleaner, then test a.cleaner-wax on an inconspicuous spot...it may turn out super this way.

Shawn

 

[Bobioz1]

Someone say DP220 party?

 

[Bobioz1]

Another

 

[Bobioz1]

One more

 

[Bobioz1]

A before pic

 

[454ragtop]

Hi 454ragtop,
YES, I would love to have the pointer and mount. Let me know what you need to make it so.
Thanks!
RayK

I have the pointer out, just need to figure out how to get the pointer mount out. Give me a day or 2 to smoke it out.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Scored this vintage delta/Rockwell off Craig's list tonight with stand for $90 and is in great shape ! I can't tell how old it is but I think it is early 50's because it has a zip code for Pittsburgh listed as 8. How old do you guys think it is ? It is only 1/4 hp but for what I am using it for it should be fine until I find the craftsman king seeley I am really looking for.





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[nine4gmc]

There is a Rockwell serial number/date chart on Vintage Machinery that would give you a year range.

 

[454ragtop]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Scored this vintage delta/Rockwell off Craig's list tonight with stand for $90 and is in great shape ! I can't tell how old it is but I think it is early 50's because it has a zip code for Pittsburgh listed as 8. How old do you guys think it is ? It is only 1/4 hp but for what I am using it for it should be fine until I find the craftsman king seeley I am really looking for.





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As to its age, 1964 http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/DeltaSerialNumbers.ashx

 

[exmaxima1]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Scored this vintage delta/Rockwell off Craig's list tonight with stand for $90 and is in great shape ! I can't tell how old it is but I think it is early 50's because it has a zip code for Pittsburgh listed as 8. How old do you guys think it is ? It is only 1/4 hp but for what I am using it for it should be fine until I find the craftsman king seeley I am really looking for.

I have several Deltas as well as a King Seeley 150 model drill press, and I think your Delta is a better made machine. I would be in no hurry to replace it unless you find a CM with a third pulley for much slower speeds. You did well!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks for the help dating the drill press! Does any one happen to know if the stand is original to the press ? I can't find any marks on it but it is very heavy duty !


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[nine4gmc]

That is a Delta splayed foot stand, those were made during the same period and offered as an option so it could very well be original. The stands are universal, they fit the band saw, jointer, sander etc. too.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

I have several Deltas as well as a King Seeley 150 model drill press, and I think your Delta is a better made machine. I would be in no hurry to replace it unless you find a CM with a third pulley for much slower speeds. You did well!

Good to know ! For some reason I really want one of those and spotted one in an estate sale ad in a few weeks ! Hoping I can score that one as well and use them side by side to see which one I like better! Since mine is a 1/4 hp , if I wanted to up the hp, is it as simple as bolting on a bigger motor ?


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[nine4gmc]

Measure the pole diameter of that Delta, I think that is the Homecraft version with a small(under 2") pole. If it's the small pole, you will be better leaving that 1/4hp motor on there and finding a King Seeley with the 2-3/4" pole. I have a Delta 15-017, a Delta 15-665 and a Craftsman 100, all have the larger 2-3/4" pole but the Delta 15-017 is the lightest weight machine of them all going by bearing and shaft size. The Craftsman is middle and the Delta 15-665 is a beast inside compared to both the others.

Also I think your Delta is a 14" where the King Seeley is a 15", measure spindle center to column edge.

 

[Craptain]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Good to know ! For some reason I really want one of those and spotted one in an estate sale ad in a few weeks ! Hoping I can score that one as well and use them side by side to see which one I like better! Since mine is a 1/4 hp , if I wanted to up the hp, is it as simple as bolting on a bigger motor ?


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Yes ! Drill presses of that era were usually supplied without a motor and you would choose the motor you wanted to add. But remember the larger the hp the larger the motor is physically. I would probably not go higher than 1/2 hp 1725 rpm motor for that machine. And make sure to check the shaft size on the replacement.

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[exmaxima1]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Good to know ! For some reason I really want one of those and spotted one in an estate sale ad in a few weeks ! Hoping I can score that one as well and use them side by side to see which one I like better! Since mine is a 1/4 hp , if I wanted to up the hp, is it as simple as bolting on a bigger motor ?

Yes, it is simple to replace your motor with a larger one. But an old-school 1/4 hp motor is more like a contemporary 1/2hp motor, and should not be an issue. Rarely do you ever need more than that on a drill press for home use. It really is more a matter of lower speeds for drilling steel, so if that is your goal than you need to look for a drill press with a middle pulley. I would suggest that you use your DP and see what it lacks for your needs, and then decide what what better suits you.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Re: Show us your cool, "old" drill press

Good to know ! For some reason I really want one of those and spotted one in an estate sale ad in a few weeks ! Hoping I can score that one as well and use them side by side to see which one I like better! Since mine is a 1/4 hp , if I wanted to up the hp, is it as simple as bolting on a bigger motor ?

Just bolt one one.

In the 1950's, they recommended a 1/3 HP motor
In the 1970's, they recommended up to 1/2 HP motor

With a 1725 RPM motor, the slowest speed is 700 rpm, which is a bit high for larger metal bits.

But if you can find an 1140 rpm motor, it lowers the minimum speed to 460 rpm. Just make sure the motor is rated for vertical orientation (no oil ports is a hint).

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks all I will take some measurements of the old girl and then I will use it for a few projects I can already think of where this will come in handy ! Super good info from lots of knowledgeable people!


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[CrotalusAtrox]

Picked this up last weekend been super busy at my day job should take a few weeks to get this one cleaned up. It's a Famco 15 inch floor model let the clean up commence.