JaketheSnake1
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That's my plane. I listed it on ebay. Reason I joined the forum was to see if anyone knows anything about it.
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JaketheSnake1
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Thank you. I will adjust the listing. I just looked at other planes online that looked like mine and listed it accordingly.
Though, the iron is Spear and Jackson not the plane.
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Yes it is marked. I can't make out the maker. If you recognize it please let me know.
I don't think the price is optimistic due to lots of interest I have had in the last 24hrs.
Beerhippie
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The brand looks like "Three Hammer Blows" to me.
RTM
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Or a Marx Brothers' eyebrows
Looks like an owner mark to me. You never know what someone might pay, but I don't think it will sell for anywhere near that price. It's only got 1 watching it.Yes it is marked. I can't make out the maker. If you recognize it please let me know.
I don't think the price is optimistic due to lots of interest I have had in the last 24hrs.
crguy
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I agree that it could well be an owners mark. Most makers marks had a border around them.
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One watcher doesn't equal "lots of interest". Even if it did have some collectible value, that has been seriously reduced by the "restoration" work done on it.Yes it is marked. I can't make out the maker. If you recognize it please let me know.
I don't think the price is optimistic due to lots of interest I have had in the last 24hrs.
RTM
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The rest of the views on it are us clowns from GJ trying to help him? Maybe?
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Maybe you are right. I am by no means an experienced or high volume seller. I do regularly sell items, and this is the most interest I have had on an item...ever.
This item has 58 views and 3 watchers in 24hrs, so it's a win for me. I am confident that it will sell.
Thanks to the guys trying to help me figure out the maker and age of this plane. I think I will adjust the listing to say 19th century. I can't at the moment because I sent someone an offer on it, but when that expires I will change the listing title and description.
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CRSINMICH
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Prudog: I've never seen anything like it! My guess is that it was highly specialized for some production run. Maybe something like door making that would require LONG rabbets. I'm only speculating. Nice find!
It looks like it was modified or worn from its original design if you look at the mouth area. The handle on the back is Roman style so maybe Italian. I haven't seen anything like that before. Is the iron marked? Upload a few more pictures if you get a chance.has anyone seen a long 40+" rabbet plane like this? any information as to origin or how old it is?
ctuai
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Just picked up this 1940 Stanley Two-Tone with Ivory Bottom - Chinese Red Frog.
At first, I thought that the bottom was filled with sawdust or had plaster spilled on it. Then I thought, why would anyone paint their plane beige? Then I realized it was a Two Tone Stanley. Got to appreciate old Stanley Two-Tone for coming up with this color scheme.
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milkovich
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Check out this small European style horned plane I got in a lot of tools. I bought the lot for a few of the other iron planes but I think I'm in love with this one. It's TINY. I can't make out the writing on the back but it looks like it says "Schupp?" and the logo on top has the initials "L.W." I'm going to sharpen it, try it out. I'm not expecting much without a chip breaker/cap iron, but the mouth is very tight and it looks like it's not been used much. It'll be my Eurotrash No. 1 plane. 
Beerhippie
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What's the logo right behind the horn? Irons on the older planes are usually from a different maker than the plane.
milkovich
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Not sure. Just the "L.W." above a cryptic design. I'm guessing it has something to do with the illuminati.
RTM
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The bottom half of that logo looks like the bottom of the Wettstein logo.Not sure. Just the "L.W." above a cryptic design. I'm guessing it has something to do with the illuminati.
Still working on whether it's
More later.
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RTM
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Got it
As always, thanks to Wolfgang Jordan for his great webpage.
Jos. Steiner & Söhne/Laupheimer Werkzeugfabrik, Laupheim
Firmengeschichte
As always, thanks to Wolfgang Jordan for his great webpage.
milkovich
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Are you a wizard? That's amazing!
I did get the plane sharp enough to smooth some old oak boards and it's too much fun but you wouldn't want to do a table top with a 1 1/4" iron. I've had some Stanley transitionals and I've never been impressed (I gave them to my parents as decorations). I have a Mathieson wooden smoother that works so/so but this little guy works surprisingly well without a cap iron (1000 times better than a stupid #75). It's also too cute, so it's going in the permanent collection and I'll keep my eye out for an 8-9 inch Steiner horned plane.
Thanks for the ID!
I got this one off ebay. Neat little scraper plane. Metal sole. Someone sanded the patina off of it for some reason. I think it will look better after some BLO. No maker marks or owner marks, but the front was sanded, so any light marks would be gone.
crguy
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Looks like it was made for serious work.
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Also looks like the sole screws a protruding a little.
ctuai
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Picked it up this morning. A Stanley no. 3 (type 14). Comes with the sweetheart blade. Sweeet. Ready to be cleaned up. Give it a bit of steel wool to get rid of the light rust; 220 grit the sides and bed; into the evaporust. Solvent for the paint; light steel wool (careful around the sticker); French polish totes. Wire wheel brass and steel. Light coat of oil.
CRSINMICH
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ararat: Is the working edge of the iron serrated? With a high angle like that your plane could be a toothing plane. Whether it's a scraper or a toothing plane it's a great find.
The blade is a scraper. A little thinner than a Stanley 80 blade, probably a cut down card scraper. It is like a wooden version of the 112, without the angle adjustment obviously. Whoever made it had some skill.
A toothing plane with a handle would be interesting. I don't think I have seen one with a handle.
CRSINMICH
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"A toothing plane with a handle would be interesting." I agree. You could probably make a toothing iron for that plane and give it a try.
crguy
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Stanley 112 scrapers came with 3 different optional toothing blades.
Jay__Dub
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Bought this 45 for my Son for Xmas. Never had seen one before.
crguy
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What prompted you to buy it? You must not be familiar with planes at all if you'd never seen a common 45.Bought this 45 for my Son for Xmas. Never had seen one before.
Jay__Dub
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I don't know anything about planes. My Son collects them, and I knew he didn't have one of these.
Looks good, now you need to get all the different bladesBought this 45 for my Son for Xmas. Never had seen one before.
I have the Craftsman version of this plane that was a gift from my dad.
milkovich
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This is my absolute favorite plane. It’s an earlier English Stanley 4 1/2. I have a type 17 USA 4 1/2 but this one is even heavier still. I installed the reed depth adjuster and yoke so there is very little backlash. I also recently got a Lake Erie Toolworks Magnacut blade which so far feels like it does save sharpening time but I’ve not done a whole hardwood project with it yet. I borrowed the rosewood furniture and lever cap from the type 17 as they were nicer than the original English hardwood. It comes in at a chunky 4.85 lbs. If you don’t have 4 1/2H money, I think this is a pretty good redneck alternative out of a 30£ plane. The shipping was actually more expensive than the plane 
I really like the 4 1/2. That's cool with the upgrades. I didn't know there were aftermarket adjusters.
Apparently the 4 1/2 was much more popular in Britain than the US. That's why they are rarer than other sizes. I was looking for a Record 4 1/2, but I found this pre-Stanley Union 4 1/2 for a good deal.
It's weighing in at 4 lbs 5 oz according to the cheapo plastic scale. It's got a Stanley blade that came with it.
Miss the Pontiacs
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I got this one off ebay. Neat little scraper plane. Metal sole. Someone sanded the patina off of it for some reason. I think it will look better after some BLO. No maker marks or owner marks, but the front was sanded, so any light marks would be gone.
What Is A Toothing Plane?
What is a toothing plane? A toothing plane is an old plane used to scratch surfaces and work tough grain.
milkovich
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There are two popular ones I know of, the Rob Cosman "AdjustStar" and the Reed adjuster with a much finer thread pitch. It's probably not necessary if you're used to the regular adjustment wheels but I wanted to try it out on a "low value" plane and it's a neat gizmo. I can see it being useful on a smoother but not on a typical jack/fore or jointer plane. I'm not sure if you follow GR Woodworking but he uses a Clifton 4 1/2 and it made me really want a heavy smoother (without the Clifton price tag obviously) and some kind brits on the Stanley FB group weighed their 4 1/2s and confirmed the earlier (thick cheek) 4 1/2s were indeed heavier than the US versions or later English versions but not quite as heavy as the 4 1/2H (which are over 5 lbs I think). Is heavy good? That's also a point of debate, but it does feel like you have a little better shot at plowing through knots or those pesky sudden grain reversals and an amateur like me is not doing enough woodworking to be super picky about my lumber or I'm using trash like branchwood or forks I milled myself.