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[Repair Renew Restore]

Some sweet planes right there

 

[MShaw]

I have this plane. It has a cast in "No 7" but no maker's marks. I found it on a beam in the garage of a house I bought in 1972. I had it sand blasted and then I painted with the green machinery enamel I had at the time. My father took it to where he worked and had the sole ground. I would like to know who made it.

 

[toolmiser]

I am not an expert, maybe a side view would help. Have you disassembled it and looked on the blade (might or might not be the original). Sometimes there is a maker on the bevel adjustment lever, but yours doesn't show one, if so it means it's pretty old.

 

[MShaw]

Here's a side view. I removed the clamp and iron and no markings. I did not disassemble the iron.

 

[Dumber than lumber]

Here's a side view. I removed the clamp and iron and no markings. I did not disassemble the iron.

That looks a lot like my Stanley Bailey No. 7.
Maybe they made them that way with no other info.

 

[RTM]

If you look at the lateral adjustment lever, it might help. There is a link, will add it here shortly. Other features include the keyhole slot in the blade, whether the circle is top or bottom, and the back of the frog, presence of a pair of ovals. More soon.

 

[MShaw]

Thanks for the efforts RTM & Dumber. Appreciate it.

 

[CRSINMICH]

kenc: No, Lie Nielsen doesn't make a shooting board. They do helpfully mention that their shooting plane will work in a Stanley #52 if you happen to have an unused one laying around.

Repair Renew Reuse: Welcome to the hand plane thread. I assume you were referring the collection of Norris planes. If you happen to own a few of your own please post pictures. Also, Records, Marples and the like would be good to see.

MShaw: Welcome to the exasperating world of plane identification. Yours sure looks like Stanley but there were many shenanigans in manufacturing back then. I've seen a few other planes that look like Stanleys but with no name. I have also seen many planes that only say MADE IN USA. Those generally have at least some features that indicate that they were not top shelf items. As far as I can tell from your photos, your plane's features indicate good quality.

crguy: Mr. Lougborough had two plane patents prior to the one for a plow plane. You can see the progression that led to the final product. Look closely and you'll notice that an "H" was added to his last name at one point.

 

[RTM]

The lateral study is eluding me right now

Here is a pic of the oval on a MF made plane.

Sargent on the left, MIllers Falls on the right, showing the keyhole up vs down.

 

[Old Radar]

The lateral study is eluding me right now

https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/stanley-bench-plane-typing/

MShaw--This may not be exactly what RTM was looking for, but it's a good place to start for Stanley planes.

The study is based on the Stanley #4, "However, all other characteristics such as frog and frog-receiver design, knob and handle design, lateral lever markings, cutter trademarks, lever caps, etc. can be used to classify and date other sizes."

Good luck!

 

[MShaw]

'll have to print out that and sit down and study my plane. Thanks for the reference. I notice they reference a no 7 farther down the table. Comparison time!!!

 

[MShaw]

While we are at it here is another of my planes. It is clearly identified with a cast in Stanley and N0 130. It looks to be older than the previous plane.

 

[toolmiser]

The lateral adjustment lever looks like it comes from a quality plane. Are the plane sides a rough casting, or just bad paint. Usually they are ground.

 

[MShaw]

Probably bad paint. They appear to be much smoother than the interior cast surfaces. The lateral adjustment lever is either machined or forged as a solid piece rather than a stamping as on my 1960s Millers Falls plane.

 

[Old Radar]

While we are at it here is another of my planes. It is clearly identified with a cast in Stanley and N0 130. It looks to be older than the previous plane.

Looks like you're missing everything north of the iron on this model. Here's what it should look like:



You can read about it here:
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan12.htm

 

[RTM]

Looks like someone tried to make a wooden wedge to replace the cap. Interchangeable with other cheap block planes, so not an awful problem.

I bought one w a stripped wheel, grabbed another one at the same flea, problem solved.

 

[MShaw]

Yep, it works with the wood wedge but now I know how it should look. Thanks for the picture

 

[RTM]

Here is a discussion of plane manufacturers, listed by things like laterals. Same site that Radar pointed to, but a different page.

https://timetestedtools.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/quickly-identify-your-hand-plane/

 

[crguy]

crguy: Mr. Lougborough had two plane patents prior to the one for a plow plane. You can see the progression that led to the final product. Look closely and you'll notice that an "H" was added to his last name at one point.

I'm aware of the earlier patents. The earlier planes were for different jobs, so I wouldn't call them a progression towards the plow plane design.

Frank Kosmerl is the expert on Loughborough planes. I know Frank, and have been in contact with him about my plane.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I've been looking for a nice vintage Stanley No 71 router plane for about a year now. Only place I'd seen any was the big auction site and those were all north of $100. Been hoping I could do better than that because I'm "thrifty". Found one today on CL. Although after I find and buy the two missing cutters (1/4" & V-shape) I'll end up paying north of $100 but I'm still a happy camper right now. I spotted the hairline crack in the left hand knob but it's still very tight at this point. Anything I should do with that at this point besides just keep an eye on it?

Researching from Alvin Sellens' The Stanley Plane I guess the age of this router will be based on whatever period the Oct 29, 1901 patent date was on the base. Anyone know the dates of that period? Do these have types?

Thanks!

 

[RTM]

I've been looking for a nice vintage Stanley No 71 router plane for about a year now. ... Anyone know the dates of that period? Do these have types?

Try here

https://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/routers/stanley/stanley_71.html

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Try here

https://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/routers/stanley/stanley_71.html

Thanks RTM! Looks to be a type 7 offered from 1906-1908. I REALLY need to browse around hyperkitten and see everything documented there.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Another one crossed off the BOLO list. A Stanley #112 cabinet/veneer scraper plane in 'as found' condition. The blade still has a good burr on it and it takes a nice shaving.

tex: Congrats! Nice router plane. You'll probably find it very handy. The irons are a bit awkward to sharpen but it's worth the effort. Paul Sellers has a good video about that.

 

[Old Radar]

Thanks RTM! Looks to be a type 7 offered from 1906-1908. I REALLY need to browse around hyperkitten and see everything documented there.

I agree with you! Thanks for the link, RTM!

 

[RTM]

Josh is a great resource. He sells tools also, and is one of my main pushers for unique stuff.

71 blades can be bought from Lee Valley, and work well with vintage Stanley routers.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Very nice looking Stanley No 112 CRS! The guy I bought the router plane from had a 112 and a 12 in good working condition. He's still using the No 112 and the No 12 was a bit pricey for me. What is BOLO?

RTM: Good to know regarding additional sources for 71 cutters. Thanks!

 

[ez-duzit]

BOLO stands for Be On the LookOut.

 

[CRSINMICH]

STANLEY #113 It wasn't on the BOLO list. It was more like an If One Ever Falls Into Your Lap list. It's a compass plane designed to plane a range of either concave or convex curves. It's certainly not a necessity, but it should be fun to play with.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Interesting plane CRS. What year/period do you date that one to?

 

[CRSINMICH]

tx: It's probably from the mid-1930's to early-1940's. Stanley manufactured the 113 from 1877 until 1942. The earliest models had an extra wheel on the side for depth adjustment. If it was made between the early 1920's and the mid-1930's, it likely would have had a SWEET HEART logo.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Not a hand plane but I spotted this for sale today. I'm guessing this is a one-off made by a Stanley Bedrock fan. Very well made and if it had been more like $25 it would be getting shipped to my home. They were asking $95.

 

[RTM]

I'm guessing this is a one-off made by a Stanley Bedrock fan. Very well made and if it had been more like $25 it would be getting shipped to my home. They were asking $95.

I'm guessing its a guy with a CNC wood cutting machine, looking at his other stuff for sale. Can probably make it in any wood you want.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I'm guessing its a guy with a CNC wood cutting machine, looking at his other stuff for sale. Can probably make it in any wood you want.

Oh, there's other stuff? Did not know that.

And hearing that I'm FAR LESS impressed. And I'm not trying to offend anyone who enjoys CNC woodworking. I spent a career doing software development and the last thing I'd want to do is CNC.

 

[RTM]

Oh, there's other stuff? Did not know that.
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https://www.etsy.com/shop/GrandpaDavesWoodShop?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=661741384

PLC programmer for a decade, googling tools is is as close to computers as I get with tool hobbies.

 

[CRSINMICH]

D.R. Barton Skew Rebate Plane​

One last plane for 2019​

The spurs on the extra iron are for scoring the edges of the rebate to prevent chipping.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

The latest addition to my Stanley user hand planes collection...Stanley No 39-1/2. Has quite a bit of rust corrosion. Not sure how bad the pitting will be. All the screws/bolts are frozen. I've heard guys talk of soaking stuff in ATF so I thought I'd give that a try first. Been soaking since Monday. Anyone else tried this and had it work? Other suggestions? All the parts appear to be there but until I can get it apart and cleaned up I'm not sure how good of a user it will be. Thoughts/suggestions on the reclamation are appreciated.

 

[crguy]

All the screws/bolts are frozen. I've heard guys talk of soaking stuff in ATF so I thought I'd give that a try first. Been soaking since Monday. Anyone else tried this and had it work? Other suggestions? All the parts appear to be there but until I can get it apart and cleaned up I'm not sure how good of a user it will be. Thoughts/suggestions on the reclamation are appreciated.

A little Kroil would work better and faster to free up the bolts.

 

[RTM]

ATF and acetone was supposedly the best for frozen fastener removal. Never tried.

Any derusting adventure should help w frozen fasteners too. Just don’t bust them, they are probably odd sizes and difficult to replace

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Picked up this Stanley No 4 late today. Only one bad pic on CL and I thought there was a slim possibility it could be pre-WWII but highly doubtful. Even after having it in hand I thought it was red from an old protective covering of patina. Not until I got it into the shop and started breaking it down that I realized it was something I've never seen before and that vintage patina was actually what appears to be original rust colored paint. At this point I'm just curious to know where and when this would have been made. Any ideas in that regard are appreciated. Won't be a user for me and luckily it only cost me $10. Thanks!

 

[Old Radar]

Picked up this Stanley No 4 late today. Only one bad pic on CL and I thought there was a slim possibility it could be pre-WWII but highly doubtful. Even after having it in hand I thought it was red from an old protective covering of patina. Not until I got it into the shop and started breaking it down that I realized it was something I've never seen before and that vintage patina was actually what appears to be original rust colored paint. At this point I'm just curious to know where and when this would have been made. Any ideas in that regard are appreciated. Won't be a user for me and luckily it only cost me $10. Thanks!

Longhorn, I just responded to this on the 2020 Garage Sale Thread, but I'll repeat it here for the Hand Plane fans:

It's not a rust colored primer. It looks like what you have there is an early "Cordovan" era plane--1968-1981. I say "early" because yours still has the Y or Wishbone frog base, which appeared in the Type 19 from 1948-1961.
Here is the link to the Type Study on Time Tested Tools. https://www.timetestedtools.net/2017/07/13/the-stanley-cordovan-era/

I recommend looking over the details of the Type 19 and 20 just to be sure, but there's no getting away from the color. I'm 99-44/100 percent sure it's the Type 21. BTW, the Type 20s were Blue.

Still a good find for $10