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WoodsTruck

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Any one have a recommendation for a pneumatic staple gun?

I have a 1/4" crown 18 gauge stapler and am looking at a 3/8"-1/2" crown 22 gauge unit for upholstery.

Not sure which width I would end up using more the 3/8 or 1/2.

Not opposed to buying a good used unit I guess if one can determine condition over the internet. New is not out of the question either I guess as it would last me a lifetime of use.
 
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I don't know about pneumatic staplers, but I used an electric Duofast for years of trouble free work. I was covering pool tables and doing 3 or 4 a week. That Duofast never let me down.

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Any one have a recommendation for a pneumatic staple gun?

I have a 1/4" crown 18 gauge stapler and am looking at a 3/8"-1/2" crown 22 gauge unit for upholstery.

Not sure which width I would end up using more the 3/8 or 1/2.

Not opposed to buying a good used unit I guess if one can determine condition over the internet. New is not out of the question either I guess as it would last me a lifetime of use.

Personally I just have the bostich pneumatics both a 1/4 crown and the standard arrow sized one - they work fine for me.

As far as where to buy one, my local pawn shop has dozens of staplers air electric and manual all dirt cheap.
 

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Here are a few pictures of the interior I did for my
Sons 70 Camaro we built a few years ago
 

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Changed the location of the velcro on my work belt because it must have shrunk over Christmas :) . I picked up this old singer for 30 AUD still needs some oil but works great 9b02ae3e58cfb66c65be80fb1b675a6e.jpg
 

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Changed the location of the velcro on my work belt because it must have shrunk over Christmas :) . I picked up this old singer for 30 AUD still needs some oil but works great

I'm not familiar with that kind of machine - is that dial in the middle for zig zag?

Some of those old machines are great. I have a singer 99 that a guy gave me as he had it in a pile ready to throw out - it was locked up. I got it turning, rewired it, oiled it, adjusted it, and it sews like it did when new. It's amazing how nice the stitching is from those old machines.
 

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Here is a better photo it is a 401a the dial in the middle sets the stich types,. 13a5d811692838e37ebb3555d282b7c2.jpg

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Not exactly sewing, but this may help some of the upholstery guys out. If you have a lathe or a local buddy with one, tools like these can be a good time saver..


My wife's cousin JB, who works at Interiors by Shannon, contacted me the other day about making him a dimpling punch and die for installing door panel fasteners..




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There's always room for improvement, so I thought I'd add a flat to one side of the lower die so it could be clamped in a vise for more stability. A short piece of V-block was installed in the Aloris tool holder and viola! We have a Southbend Milling Machine!



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The alignment pin was added to the bottom die to help keep the panel aligned during the punching process, a 1/4" hole will be added to the panel where fasteners are needed.


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Installing into the vise...




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Our .06 aluminum test panel...




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….that should work...
 

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To be honest, I posted this so others could borrow the idea, not to get orders for more. I'd suggest asking one of the retired machinists (like Kevin54) to see if they have any interest. Get together interest of a group and you may see a qty discount with whomever can do the job. My lathe (and the operator) are old, worn out, antiques and don't make parts like these as efficiently as someone with better toys.. :thumbup:
 
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Well I tought I was alone to like sewing machines.
My grandmother used to have a Signer threadle machine, I love the mechanical aspect of these machines.
My wife wanted a sewing machine and we bought a ''modern'' Brother.
But I always wanted to have one of the older Signer as a sort of a reminder of my grandmother's machine.
Sooo one day friend of mine moved and they had a early 1900 model 27 with a motor fitted to it, and wanted to get rid of it, got it for free.
It hadnt run for many years.
Oiled it up, cleaned it and it runs like new lol.
I later found a 15-91 with the potted motor, paid 100 bucks and same deal, runs beautifully, a bit before Chrismass, I found a model 201 from 1951.
Needs to be rewired but it runs quietly and better than the Brother! couldnt pass the deal since I paid 150$ for it.
I plan to rebuild this one and refinish the cabinet, I'll post the rebuild when I get to it.
 
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Not a upholstery machine but it is all I have.
Going to mess around.
Wish me luck:Homer:
 

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Not a upholstery machine but it is all I have.
Going to mess around.
Wish me luck:Homer:

I bet it will work for most things.

Can you get different feet for it? My Consew is a zig-zag/straight stitch walking foot machine and at times I wish I could get narrow feet for it when working around zippers in particular.
 

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I don't do a lot. Mainly just mend my clothes.

Interestingly my wife, then girlfriend looked at me strangely one day when I asked her if she had a sewing machine that I could use. I think she thought that I was going to try and ask her to fix something. I needed to sew the bottom of my pocket. I kept losing things out of it. To my amazement she got out an older Bernina 830 like we had growing up and that I had learned on. I promptly took my pants off sewed the bottom of my pocket and then reinforced the side seams where the pockets connect. I like to think she was impressed.

When the pandemic started I volunteered my wife and I to sew mask for project protect

We sewed 350 of the mask. Then I moved onto 30 fabric mask in different patterns for the guys at work.

After tuning up my sewing skills my brother in-law needed new cushions for his camper. I sewed four of these last night.

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Side view with Zipper. It is still a little twisted further down and a couple loose ends but I was running late for work this morning. I get it sorted later.
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There are four total two 12x48 and two 24x48.

I like to think after 14 years I still impress her.
 

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I was watching the local classifieds and stumbled upon a check brother walking foot machine that needed some tuning. I have wanted an industrial machine for a while. For $140 this one looked like a good deal. The original plan was to do some upholstery work for the front room. We'll get there.

Here it is when I picked it up.
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After a fiddling with it for a while and replacing a few damaged parts, I still couldn't get it to form a stich. I finally paid a pro to tune it up for me.

It is quite the learning curve. I realized quickly that although I make somethings with the clutch motor the learning curve was higher than I would be able to tolerate and I replaced it with a servo and a small pulley.

I got some vinyl for cheap on clearance and have practiced quite a bit.
I think my wife has the nicest grocery bags now.
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After feeling comfortable with the machine I have moved onto leather. I made my wife a tote style purse.

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Here is my latest. They are leather Dopp Kits or shaving kit. I think its going to be a leather Christmas this year.
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I was watching the local classifieds and stumbled upon a check brother walking foot machine that needed some tuning. I have wanted an industrial machine for a while. For $140 this one looked like a good deal...

You totally ****! I've been looking for that sort of machine for some time now, and have not found anything close for under $500 in my area.

Also, that's really nice work there!
 
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First time I clicked :p123
Here is my sewing project, I have had this poor thing about 15 year's and 4 dog's fur sure; maybe 5.
I fell through it once on my 1/2 hour lunch letting the dog out.
Lunch on my lap rolled over let the dog have it.
Any way Its past due, again and now I Have a machine (4 now) 1 that can fix it :dunno:
Enjoyed the Quick blast through this thread, now back to my project.
 

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Just kinda happened ? Didn't want it but I have a use, then flip it late next year when I am done:lol:
Its looking great in her parking spot.
Poor thing didn't like the slight breeze and wet the bed :dunno:
Today I learned there is a dial on the servo and 2000 in the middle is stupid fast, don't know where the oil goes in, the level or
If I can help the touchy throttle with linkage adjustments.
I Know that dial is going as close to 0 as it will and I may never move it up:scared:
 

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Just kinda happened ? Didn't want it but I have a use, then flip it late next year when I am done:lol:
Its looking great in her parking spot.
Poor thing didn't like the slight breeze and wet the bed :dunno:
Today I learned there is a dial on the servo and 2000 in the middle is stupid fast, don't know where the oil goes in, the level or
If I can help the touchy throttle with linkage adjustments.
I Know that dial is going as close to 0 as it will and I may never move it up:scared:

I believe that machine has a sump under the table. google the model number.

There are a bunch of cheap Chinese servo motors that have **** speed sensors. They use an optical sensor to control speed, with a little shutter that's supposed to be a gradient, fully opaque at off, fully transparent floored, and varying in between. The **** copies (which have been sold under expensive brand names) use either a shutter that's basically transparent or totally opaque to the wavelength of the optical sensor. transparent can be fixed by using a card with a gradient scribbled on it, opaque is harder to fix.
 

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I made myself a tent out of silicone-coated ripstop. It is made out of three triangles of material, each about 6 feet long. One isoceles triangle lies flat on the ground and then two right triangles are sewn to make a peak, with some flaps left over for a door. All three corners of the bottom are staked down, then the peak has a sleeve for a rope. One pole, which is usually my walking stick, holds up the entire thing
 

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Today I learned there is a dial on the servo and 2000 in the middle is stupid fast, don't know where the oil goes in, the level or
If I can help the touchy throttle with linkage adjustments.
I Know that dial is going as close to 0 as it will and I may never move it up:scared:

That looks like the same servo that I installed on my machine. I also used this pulley from amazon to cut the speed in about half.

It has made slow much more controllable. I did have to buy a shorter belt.
 

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I believe that machine has a sump under the table. google the model number.

There are a bunch of cheap Chinese servo motors that have **** speed sensors. They use an optical sensor to control speed, with a little shutter that's supposed to be a gradient, fully opaque at off, fully transparent floored, and varying in between. The **** copies (which have been sold under expensive brand names) use either a shutter that's basically transparent or totally opaque to the wavelength of the optical sensor. transparent can be fixed by using a card with a gradient scribbled on it, opaque is harder to fix.

Yep spent more time (RTFM) missing the last digit's somewhere between a 1&5 Consew 206 RB Guess last time I tried on the phone

That fix is well beyond my capabilities. I get my wife to thread the needle!
Got Oil, I am going to pull a bobbin/needle, check & oil, oil, then let this thing humm slowly today. :confused:
 

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Thank you !
At 3.5 stitches " 3300 per minute how far could you :wtf:

remember that these machines are used for stuff like tarps and tent canopies, where there are long seams. A 10 foot seam, 3.5 spi, sewn at 3300 spm takes about 7.5 seconds, at 1000 it's 25 seconds. There are folders and feeders that make that possible to do as a single shot. But a manual operator usually works by gathering a foot or two of seam, lines it up, and sews full speed ahead. So the speed matters a lot in a factory. To most of us, of course, it matters not at all. In a shop that sews things like shaving kit bags, it's not unusual to see machines set up with much lower top speed.
 

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On my server motor I have it set on the 2nd click. I am usually sewing short run items and it still gives me enough slow technical accuracy. I have made some long runs with the binder or hemmer attachments that I might reach under and give it a couple clicks.
 

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Thanks guy’s the simple term’s help I can look them up, I am only prepping for the cold, lifting and putting locking casters under it. I am tall one bad leg, one worse leg and the leg lift; foot pedal will be a challenge, almost forgot the bum left arm.
Lot’s of time and I do have a new to me boat, no cover Only 13’
A Bat wing style imitation, for another project of mine next summer will Require lots of Learning!
A lot like swapping to an apple tablet.
Is this a bad time to say I really don’t like needles :D
 

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Been rebuilding quite a few sewing machines lately, mostly old Singers. Have two portable walking foots similar to Sailrite's that are in half way rebuild turbo mode.

Had my Forrest table saw blades resharpened (A&A Sharpening) and to test out compound cuts I made this little thread stand base out of phenolic Fin ply, stainless rod and Walnut dowel. Also, fits the smaller 110 yd Gutermann spools. I'm happy with the cuts.

I'm loaning this Singer Slant-O-Matic 401 that I rebuilt to a friend of mine to learn on, so I took off all the small thread poles to save them.

Great machines that handle handle some pretty heavy fabrics. Have several 401's, a Featherweight and a 403 that I all completely rebuilt. I have too many but fun to work on.

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I like that spool stand. I use one with a cast iron base, but that one's quite sharp looking.

The 401 is probably the pinnacle of a home dressmaker's machine, but slant needles aren't really ideal with heavier work.

As for the thread poles, I hate them, so, good riddance. They force the spool to rotate in order to feed, which adds tension in unpredictable ways, plus feeding thread off the end of the spool adds to the twist (assuming you have Z twist thread), which generally helps things, and you lose that when putting your spool on poles and feeding off the side.
 

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Thanks rlitman,

You're totally right about the thread poles, They pretty much only work on the old wood light thread spools that were used back in the day. I did make new custom thread poles out of brass that were a little taller and had holes in them to guide thread through them if needed.
Would be so frustrating when sewing and getting a rats nest in the bottom stitching wondering what the hell is going on and blaming it on other things, after readjusting and going through everything I finally figured out it was the thread twisting and binding while using the stupid thread poles on the machine (like you said), changing it to a separate stand alone spool stand fixed that.

I found the Slant needle can do well with heavier work if you switch early to a bigger needle but then that has it's own problems but been able to sew kevlar, Dyneema, 1000 cordura and Dacron sail cloth but certainly has its limitations and what heavier work is, is subjective. You can only get so much under the foot and your asking for trouble forcing it to do things above the call of duty. Looking forward to finish rebuilding my (so called) portable walking foot machines. I'll keep one and sell the other.

Here's a thread rack I made when wanting t keep the spool on the machine, a separate stand alone is better.

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I am completely 'without gift' when it comes to sewing. But I had to learn it as a kid -- everyone in our family did. So when I wanted houndstooth inserts for my seats, I made my own. And since my kids can not stop ruining the seat covers in our breakfast nook, I keep having to sew new covers.

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...about the thread poles, They pretty much only work on the old wood light thread spools that were used back in the day...
Here's a thread rack I made when wanting t keep the spool on the machine, a separate stand alone is better...

I've got a bunch of those antique thimble sized wooden spools. Yeah, I could see those being much more forgiving. Maybe a teflon washer (like those some people use under bobbins) might help. I wonder if the old Singer thread intentionally came with tighter twist specifically to work on their machines and get around this issue ... I wouldn't put it past them to use a strategy like this to lock you into their consumables.

I love that wire rack you made up. Looks like the perfect way to use Gutermann thread, or the 1000 yard spools that are wound on a cardboard cylinder. I've snapped needles doing something like that with C&C when the thread got snagged in the notch on the end of the spool. Still, I may "borrow" that idea one day.

I'll bet that Featherweight was the queen of the quilting bee at some time. :)
 

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Go ahead rlitman, borrow away for yourself.

Here's a 45 second slow-mo video showing the inside of a Singer 401 working from pattern disc to foot. It can be a good technique to use to see any issues happening while running.

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