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neuralsnafu

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Anyone here able to help. I use a hobart 140. Just hobby stuff. But I notice while I'm welding it sounds like it's hopping. And the wire isn't coming out smooth. I tried turning up the wire speed. But doesn't matter. Any help is greatly appreciated. Chris

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Bad grounding or not enough tension on the drive rollers

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I'd check the liner first, if you have a good ground. Not sure what gun you have, but they can usually be had for under twenty bucks.
 

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Anyone here able to help. I use a hobart 140. Just hobby stuff. But I notice while I'm welding it sounds like it's hopping. And the wire isn't coming out smooth. I tried turning up the wire speed. But doesn't matter. Any help is greatly appreciated. Chris

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Another issue could be to hot of setting and wire is melting up to tip.

I'd recommend you watch the 3 part video on MIG welding basics at weldingtipsandtricks.com. I watched them last week and he is very informative and shows good examples of bad settings versus proper settings.
 

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Thanks guys for all of your help!! Very very grateful! I will be fixing the issue today while learning from everyone's input. Chris

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This weekend I replaced the tongue on a tow behind mixer. The original tongue is removable to prevent someone from stealing it, but the mason said he doesn't care if its removable. Not sure how it got bent to **** but I know these things get frozen into the sand pile and they use a forklift to break them free. Bent some 3/4" round bar for the pintle ring and welded it to 1/4" plate then to the 2" 3/16" wall square tube tongue. To fill the hole from the old cracked tongue I bent some 1/4" plate into a C then welded it to the leg and welded the hole from the backside. Also added a big gusset to the tongue since I know how hard guys are to there equipment/tools
 

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Anyone here able to help. I use a hobart 140. Just hobby stuff. But I notice while I'm welding it sounds like it's hopping. And the wire isn't coming out smooth. I tried turning up the wire speed. But doesn't matter. Any help is greatly appreciated. Chris

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My Hobart handle 190 was doing the same thing no matter how I fiddled with the settings. I was going to replace the liner but ended up buying a hole new gun from HTP America and it solved all my problem. But I probably pushed 250-300 lbs of wire through the original gun
 

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Not completly a welding job, but....


Client wanted all the bathrooms shower stalls (group shower like in high school) to have solid stainless walls.
45 sheets of 16ga to complete the 4 showers. 'H' strips between the sheets. Held to the walls ( that were in terrible conditions by 'nail ins' or 'raw pins', as well as a ton of adhesive on the back side lol.

Additionally the previous weekend we scrambled to build 6 replacement tub style sinks (double wall ) for the project for the plumber.
Shower units had the brackets welded to the walls. Following week we added shelves, mirrors and towel hooks all welded to the walls as well.
 

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bon3s

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Anyone here able to help. I use a hobart 140. Just hobby stuff. But I notice while I'm welding it sounds like it's hopping. And the wire isn't coming out smooth. I tried turning up the wire speed. But doesn't matter. Any help is greatly appreciated. Chris

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So personally lacking a little info here... and personally i dont like the 140 but none the less here is where i would look.

- metal thickness ... that little 140 doesnt like much over light guage sheet metal, last one i used, off a 10ga 20 foot extention cord put down some very cold welds on 3/16 ×2 flatbar on to 11ga plate.

- drive wheels, make sure they are correct for the wire size, wrong ones will push the wire through the gun but wont hold pressure when welding.

- correct tension on the wire... if you havent had it birdnest on you yet, you can go tighter... dont smash it, use reason.

- clean ur drive wheels... u wont believe the dust and **** that finds its way in, off the wire and while it site idol, use a pick and run it gently though the groves, dont rake so hard to mess with the micro teeth most wheels have.

- liner, coil it to tight one time, or some one jerks the whip hard... backs a dolly or cart over a whip and it will put an internal kink inside it, they are easy to replace and cheap, should always have a few spare on hand.

- wire, cheap wire or a bad batch... or even wire that sat to long will develope scale or oxydation and run poorly.

- tips, like wire.. make sure they are a good brand or the mfgs brand, stay away from big box store supplies and harbor freight. Correct size and clean

Start with these before buying a new whip, far cheaper and u will learn to trouble shoot ur machine rather than throw money at it.
 

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Anyone here able to help. I use a hobart 140. Just hobby stuff. But I notice while I'm welding it sounds like it's hopping. And the wire isn't coming out smooth. I tried turning up the wire speed. But doesn't matter. Any help is greatly appreciated. Chris

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That sounds like wire spool tension. Did you try tighten the tension?
 

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Not completly a welding job, but....


Client wanted all the bathrooms shower stalls (group shower like in high school) to have solid stainless walls.
45 sheets of 16ga to complete the 4 showers. 'H' strips between the sheets. Held to the walls ( that were in terrible conditions by 'nail ins' or 'raw pins', as well as a ton of adhesive on the back side lol.

Additionally the previous weekend we scrambled to build 6 replacement tub style sinks (double wall ) for the project for the plumber.
Shower units had the brackets welded to the walls. Following week we added shelves, mirrors and towel hooks all welded to the walls as well.

This came out awesome. Nice work. What are the strips between the 16ga sheets and what do you use to seal the joint?
 

kell0026

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Not yet, but i think your right. It seems better when it was tighter. Although i do notice teeth marks from the tensioner not that it matters.

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What tools and technique are used to finish the edges of the sink? We've got a lot of stainless stuff at work that I see like this and am curious
 

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This came out awesome. Nice work. What are the strips between the 16ga sheets and what do you use to seal the joint?

Between the sheets are a bought product that we refer to as 'H-Strips' that allow about 1/8" of metal drop in to them. These strips have an adhesive already inside them that help hold it, kinda a little. The pins in the walls through the sheets keep it from walking around.
 

bon3s

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Not yet, but i think your right. It seems better when it was tighter. Although i do notice teeth marks from the tensioner not that it matters.

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Teethmarks might be a 1/8 to 1/4 turn tight or so, but it wont effect anything at all for the welding process.
 
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bon3s

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What tools and technique are used to finish the edges of the sink? We've got a lot of stainless stuff at work that I see like this and am curious

Scotchbrite, simple and yet easy.

Ill be honest, these were a rush and for what ever reason the guys that finished them out at the shop that week did the entire top of the sections you highlighted. Typically we just do 1/4" left and right of the weld bead and nothing more. Id hazard to guess with all the shut down work we have going on right now, someone did a bit of a crude tig job on them and it was ground out and then hidden with larger scotchbrite buffing.

For hand scotchbrite, we just use the red pads, on the 4 1/2 inch sander we use a brown and red depending on how much cut is needed for polishing.
 

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So personally lacking a little info here... and personally i dont like the 140 but none the less here is where i would look.

- metal thickness ... that little 140 doesnt like much over light guage sheet metal, last one i used, off a 10ga 20 foot extention cord put down some very cold welds on 3/16 ×2 flatbar on to 11ga plate.

- drive wheels, make sure they are correct for the wire size, wrong ones will push the wire through the gun but wont hold pressure when welding.

- correct tension on the wire... if you havent had it birdnest on you yet, you can go tighter... dont smash it, use reason.

- clean ur drive wheels... u wont believe the dust and **** that finds its way in, off the wire and while it site idol, use a pick and run it gently though the groves, dont rake so hard to mess with the micro teeth most wheels have.

- liner, coil it to tight one time, or some one jerks the whip hard... backs a dolly or cart over a whip and it will put an internal kink inside it, they are easy to replace and cheap, should always have a few spare on hand.

- wire, cheap wire or a bad batch... or even wire that sat to long will develope scale or oxydation and run poorly.

- tips, like wire.. make sure they are a good brand or the mfgs brand, stay away from big box store supplies and harbor freight. Correct size and clean

Start with these before buying a new whip, far cheaper and u will learn to trouble shoot ur machine rather than throw money at it.

All good info, and I went through this on my 252 recently.

I found the WeldAid products to work well as well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RA5D5C/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RA58UC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Also, if you're new to welding... make sure you have a solid ground and a well-prepped, clean area. Any loss in electrical contact causes the weld arc to fail, but the wire feed continues.
 

Redlunn

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Man that's a really cool looking Firepit! Great job on the design work. Are you worried about stuff falling out of it?

Thanks. Nah, not too worried about stuff falling out. I have build a few of this style, with different art work, and it hasn't been an issue. There is a pretty good bowl shape that doesn't have any cutouts but this may not be apparent in the pictures.

I NEED at least 1 of these, if not 2.
Would you sell it flat as a kit?

Interesting idea. I may have to consider that. I had pretty much dismissed the idea of selling them complete anywhere but local due to the shipping costs. The flat kit would have a limited market but it would ship cheaper.
 
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I must say I stole the outlet idea and color choice from your table duker. But I saw it on Pinterest not here. I have yet to master posting with more than one picture. And only came here because every time I see a great post on Pinterest it originated here!
 

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Welcome to the GJ Rufuss! Nice first project! I have to say I have a fondness toward red welding tables! :)

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I must say I stole the outlet idea and color choice from your table duker. But I saw it on Pinterest not here. I have yet to master posting with more than one picture. And only came here because every time I see a great post on Pinterest it originated here!
 

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I must say I stole the outlet idea and color choice from your table duker. But I saw it on Pinterest not here. I have yet to master posting with more than one picture. And only came here because every time I see a great post on Pinterest it originated here!



Well I am flattered. Glad you found the forum. It is a great bunch of folks as long as you stay away from the topics of politics and PVC airlines! You will understand why after you spend a little time reading through the threads. :) Again, welcome aboard.


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Not completly a welding job, but....


Client wanted all the bathrooms shower stalls (group shower like in high school) to have solid stainless walls.
45 sheets of 16ga to complete the 4 showers. 'H' strips between the sheets. Held to the walls ( that were in terrible conditions by 'nail ins' or 'raw pins', as well as a ton of adhesive on the back side lol.

Additionally the previous weekend we scrambled to build 6 replacement tub style sinks (double wall ) for the project for the plumber.
Shower units had the brackets welded to the walls. Following week we added shelves, mirrors and towel hooks all welded to the walls as well.


So where is the welding ........ is there any welding ?
 

bon3s

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So where is the welding ........ is there any welding ?

You dont read well do you....

The last sentence mentions that all them fancy things on the walls are hanging off brackets I welded up....

Additionally we welded on towel hooks, mirror brackets and stainless shelfs at every shower head.

Also those tub style sinks were nothing more than sheets of 4x10 14ga less then 2 days before they were installed... you think we JB welded them together ?????????????


First sentance also spells it out... 'Not completely a welding job, but .... '


This was posted as not every welding job in the real world is heavy welding application, most of the projects our clients ask us to do are delicate small almost hidden, you dont put big ole stickwelded anything in to corporate offices... nor in to dairy facilities....
 

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I'm currently building a sidecar for my CRF250L. My daughter says she is building it, and that I'm helping.

This is the first video of the playlist

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Picture is for attention, but the video is what I really want you to see. Link to it:

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I built this vertical band saw stand the other day, trying to save space with a smaller footprint I filled the base for concrete to compensate for this smaller footprint. I did add some tap holes to the bottom, see picture, so I can add Outriggers in case it was too Tippy. When cutting steel it doesn't seem to move at all, the only time it seems to be is when you're moving it around. So I think I'll leave it like it is.

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I also built this portable Band Saw stand. Bending the pipe with my Harbor Freight pipe bender and bending the round stock steel with my Harbor Freight compact Bender. Most of the stand is TIG welded.

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Wow ... that came out nice!!
Thanks! i was really pleased with it, the saw kind of sits in a nest and the table slides on nice and snug. No bolts or clamps to remove

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Welded me up a wall mount oscillating fan bracket. Simple weekend project. Gained some floor space this way.
 

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I also built this portable Band Saw stand. Bending the pipe with my Harbor Freight pipe bender and bending the round stock steel with my Harbor Freight compact Bender. Most of the stand is TIG welded.

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I did you support the bottom of the saw ? I have been looking at the swag offroad band saw table I really like the idea but it's about $150 and I am cheap

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