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BigNuge

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Bumper and carrier turned out nice.:beer:



Thanks! I just finished the last few tweaks, 3 coats of bed liner, now to let it all dry.

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Fire ring season is coming. . . . .
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BigNuge

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Thanks guys, I used a Rustoleum product on the bumper and tire carrier. I love the finish! And this stuff is down right rugged. I had to take some off the bumper to weld the hinge gussets, wire wheel only roughed you the surface!! It goes without saying that prep is everything, and I took my time with prep on this. Wire wheel/flap disk everything, denatured alcohol wipe down everything, and gave it all 48 hours to dry/cure completely before touching it.

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Oh, and protect/mask up anything you don’t want this on. It comes out of the can FAST, and goes EVERYWHERE! First time I used it I found that I got it all over a bunch of tools/tool boxes/broom/floor....lol.


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Just finished my first attempt at a customs painted hood.


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Miss the Pontiacs

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I’ll give all you pros a bit of a giggle. I did my first stick welding yesterday, probably didn’t have to mention that it was my first try.:lol_hitti
I enrolled in a 2 Saturday class on welding. The OA cutting was just brutal, but did learn an invaluable lesson. I tried to clean up my straight and bevel cuts by trying a second and third time. Then I would do another cut on clean metal, not bad but not great , so again retried and just got po’ed. By the time the instructor got to me my fresh cut had improved, he said not bad. He never seen me trying to recut the slag. Finally realized you can’t clean up slag after the OA lesson was over. Lesson learned. Didn’t save that one, was going to recover it but to late scrap was in the bottom of a deep barrel.

The pic of the stick test piece also leaves something to be desired. Have a tough time doing a straight line How do you guys do it. :headscrat

Now for that laugh I promised.
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Pontiac,
That looks good to me, first try and all.
Welding a straight line without a bevel or joint to follow is difficult.

In your case, where you are covering a plate with passes, start on one edge and use that edge to keep straight and then use the center of each pass as your guide.

It more than likely feels like you can't see, but the more you do it, the more you will see.

Looking good and hang in there, it will come.

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Thanks Royce hoping to improve. My buddy’s dad is going to sell me one of his stick welders. An old yellow Comet made along time ago locally by Smith Roles. Looking forward to burning up some rods.:lol_hitti
 

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A bunch of hours behind the helmet burning up coupons is going to help big time. Your coupon above is pretty typical of someone working on getting the feel for it, and there’s more “feel” in welding than people think. Hang in there, practice, you’ll be stacking dimes in no time!


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Pontiac,

I took vocational Welding in school back in 1981, we were required to do a pad weld, the same thing your doing, its a great way to practice. Find the straightest weld on your pad and follow that, remember to watch your puddle and keep it consistent.

One thing to look at is can you actually see that good threw your current helmet, maybe your using to dark of a lens, its worth every penny to invest in a really good helmet, if your planning to keep on welding. You would be amazed at how well you can see with the new technology of today's helmets.

I use a Viking model 3350 from Lincoln. Great helmet!

KEEP ON PRACTICING!!!
 

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We were using a #10 lense. I know that this is a welding project thread, and hope to add some projects in the future. But I bought an auto darkening helmet, would I have better of with the glass lenses.
I got an email from the tech school saying next Saturday’s class is cancelled due to the virus. Will be postponed and if cancelled we will be refunded. I’ve been waiting for years to get a spot on the list for this class. I’m a little perturbed to say the least.:(
 

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I’ll give all you pros a bit of a giggle. I did my first stick welding yesterday, probably didn’t have to mention that it was my first try.:lol_hitti
I enrolled in a 2 Saturday class on welding. The OA cutting was just brutal, but did learn an invaluable lesson. I tried to clean up my straight and bevel cuts by trying a second and third time. Then I would do another cut on clean metal, not bad but not great , so again retried and just got po’ed. By the time the instructor got to me my fresh cut had improved, he said not bad. He never seen me trying to recut the slag. Finally realized you can’t clean up slag after the OA lesson was over. Lesson learned. Didn’t save that one, was going to recover it but to late scrap was in the bottom of a deep barrel.

The pic of the stick test piece also leaves something to be desired. Have a tough time doing a straight line How do you guys do it. :headscrat

Now for that laugh I promised.
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I teach welding at my pipe fitters union hall. We start all the apprentices doing what your doing. It’s hard to weld straight and also hard to welding on the leading edge of the plate. Next time take a tri square and soap stone and make a straight line about an inch in and start on that. Also by the looks of the welds you started to cold or had the rod to close to the plate. Both with five a tall narrow weld. Really want to keep it about 1/16 off the plate. Also looks like you were running 7018. Might try some 6010. Although a little harder to run at first you can see the puddle better and get instant results as far as what movements your doing right or wrong. Once you get a decent hand of 6010 7018 is a walk in the park.
 

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BN. Well I’ve learned a couple of new terms. Coupon and stacking dimes, who knows it time I’ll even know the lingo.:lol_hitti. Will keep praying practicing. Thanks

Bears Fan Yikes I checked out the helmet. $$:shocking:
That is a Cadillac of a helmet, oh I mean Lincoln. :beer:

RIchard D And I only think it will get worse. Finding a St.Patrick’s green beer is getting tougher. Heard on the radio a local pub or 2 are shutting the doors for now.

PhnatomEB :thumbup:Exactly what I was thinking. Only hope I’ll be available.

GMWelder Good points. The instructor did his best but one on one time was limited. I do appreciate your insight and will try your suggestions. :beer:
 

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Bears Fan Yikes I checked out the helmet. $$:shocking:
That is a Cadillac of a helmet, oh I mean Lincoln. :beer:
Miss the Pontiacs, I have two helmets. One is a Harbor Freight $49 model and it worked fine for MIG. When I tried TIG the arc was much brighter and with my pupil permanently dilated I had to find something better. Bought a Jackson Safety SmarTIGer with Balder technology and it worked great. You may be able to find it cheaper but Cyberweld has it for less than $150 US.
https://store.cyberweld.com/jabasaa...OTZeQOcXK8V7yV9rT34pz54XOVUD3xMEaApIUEALw_wcB
 

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Miss the Pontiacs, I have two helmets. One is a Harbor Freight $49 model and it worked fine for MIG. When I tried TIG the arc was much brighter and with my pupil permanently dilated I had to find something better. Bought a Jackson Safety SmarTIGer with Balder technology and it worked great. You may be able to find it cheaper but Cyberweld has it for less than $150 US.
https://store.cyberweld.com/jabasaa...OTZeQOcXK8V7yV9rT34pz54XOVUD3xMEaApIUEALw_wcB

Bob, how did you come about choosing that particular helmet? I have an older Miller Elite that I might want to upgrade.

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Bob, how did you come about choosing that particular helmet? I have an older Miller Elite that I might want to upgrade.

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Jalexl, I was looking at top of the line helmet specifications and ratings. The Jackson Safety SmarTIGer wasn't the top rated but it was pretty close. It was half the price of the higher rated ones and its main weakness was use as a grinding or gas welding helmet, neither of which was important to me. The HF helmet gave me snow blindness when I tried TIG but with the Jackson SmarTIGer it was like watching a movie. I was prepared to upgrade to the best rated helmet if the Jackson helmet didn't do the job. So far it does everything I wanted it to do.
 

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Pontiac,

I took vocational Welding in school back in 1981, we were required to do a pad weld, the same thing your doing, its a great way to practice. Find the straightest weld on your pad and follow that, remember to watch your puddle and keep it consistent.

One thing to look at is can you actually see that good threw your current helmet, maybe your using to dark of a lens, its worth every penny to invest in a really good helmet, if your planning to keep on welding. You would be amazed at how well you can see with the new technology of today's helmets.

I use a Viking model 3350 from Lincoln. Great helmet!

KEEP ON PRACTICING!!!

BN. Well I’ve learned a couple of new terms. Coupon and stacking dimes, who knows it time I’ll even know the lingo.:lol_hitti. Will keep praying practicing. Thanks

Bears Fan Yikes I checked out the helmet. $$:shocking:
That is a Cadillac of a helmet, oh I mean Lincoln. :beer:

GMWelder Good points. The instructor did his best but one on one time was limited. I do appreciate your insight and will try your suggestions. :beer:

I bought that Lincoln 3350 Viking and I bought that with our undersized Canadian $'s [1.32>1.00 US$ when I bought, now it with all of this silliness we are down to $1.45 Can > 1.00 US$] And I could not be happier with this helmet, I use this for TIG only I wouldn't dare splatter my $400 helmet with MIG or Stick. I am in the Finely aged group, (like many here) and I just couldn't see with my old 9-13 Horrid Fright/Princess Auto Helmet for TIG welding my welds 30 Yrs. in were getting WAY worse than my first day with the TIG torch, I had to do something or give it up. If you can try one at a Demo Days deal or similar try it out! You will like it! And yes for magic marker/soap stone line. Or even clamp a piece of bar or angle for a fence, [and not your $40 12" scale]. Harry
 

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Jalexl, I was looking at top of the line helmet specifications and ratings. The Jackson Safety SmarTIGer wasn't the top rated but it was pretty close. It was half the price of the higher rated ones and its main weakness was use as a grinding or gas welding helmet, neither of which was important to me. The HF helmet gave me snow blindness when I tried TIG but with the Jackson SmarTIGer it was like watching a movie. I was prepared to upgrade to the best rated helmet if the Jackson helmet didn't do the job. So far it does everything I wanted it to do.

Thank you Bob for your insight. May I ask what resources you used for ratings?
 

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Thank you Bob for your insight. May I ask what resources you used for ratings?
Jalexl, I bought the helmet in 2013 and I think I googled "Best Welding Helmet for TIG" because that was what I was interested in at the time. There were a bunch of biased ad-based posts but also several seemingly unbiased ones. Nearly all the posts had the Jackson Safety SmarTIGer helmet pretty high on the list. In the past seven years you would expect a dramatic change but that helmet still shows up with pretty positive reviews. My wallet advises me to look beyond the brand-name top of the line stuff.
 

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Jalexl, I bought the helmet in 2013 and I think I googled "Best Welding Helmet for TIG" because that was what I was interested in at the time. There were a bunch of biased ad-based posts but also several seemingly unbiased ones. Nearly all the posts had the Jackson Safety SmarTIGer helmet pretty high on the list. In the past seven years you would expect a dramatic change but that helmet still shows up with pretty positive reviews. My wallet advises me to look beyond the brand-name top of the line stuff.

Bob appreciate your input. Don’t think I’ll be doing any Tig welding but who knows. I have always wanted to learn about stick welding sort of a bucket list thing. I can imagine my grinder will be doing a little overtime. :lol_hitti
 

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I was talking to a fellow I knew about the classes I was taking. He is having some health problems and won’t be taking welding off his bucket list. So he offered me the following unused/new items for $60. I didn’t want to argue as I didn’t know what it was worth and he is a pretty fair guy. The grey bundle is an apron. The items for the most part are likely Princess Auto/HF quality.
 

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Not a project yet, but want to make this year. Square tubing and some wire, and scaled up.

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Small repair for a buddy tonight (half finished)
 

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