Show Your Heritage Logo Love

[genog]

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[Moldyjim]

It looks like these two fit in here.
I picked up these massive 1950's Craftsman tools. The saw weighs 19lbs. The advertisements tout its light weight! Came in the original metal tool box with accessories. Even a tube of the original grease 90% full.

The belt sander is cool too, has a little more use on it. But came with the box and some spare belts. Man the belts are nothing like today's belts. The fabric is thick and strong and the grit is heavily applied.

Both run, noisy but aren't they all?

I'll clean them up a bit and see if they need any repair, but it doesn't look like they need much if any.

I picked them up at the recycling store in town. They were having a half off sale on large machines. I showed the guy the saw and he said "Oh yeah, that big machinery"!

$52.50 for both. Couldn't pass them up. They will look good with my other vintage Craftsman machines.

 

[Provincial]

I picked up a Heritage socket set box at the local flea market Sunday. It was full of Allen and Bondus hex keys, and the label is bad, but the box is straight.

 

[d42jeep]

I have this similar but probably longer box with what I believe to have Korean war era =v= tools that aren’t chrome plated.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

I found this Heritage box containing a buffer/grinder in need of possibly a new cord.
It’ll be a good match for the others on display in my basement.

-Don

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

It looks like these two fit in here.
I picked up these massive 1950's Craftsman tools. The saw weighs 19lbs. The advertisements tout its light weight! Came in the original metal tool box with accessories. Even a tube of the original grease 90% full.

The belt sander is cool too, has a little more use on it. But came with the box and some spare belts. Man the belts are nothing like today's belts. The fabric is thick and strong and the grit is heavily applied.

Both run, noisy but aren't they all?

I'll clean them up a bit and see if they need any repair, but it doesn't look like they need much if any.

I picked them up at the recycling store in town. They were having a half off sale on large machines. I showed the guy the saw and he said "Oh yeah, that big machinery"!

$52.50 for both. Couldn't pass them up. They will look good with my other vintage Craftsman machines.

It’s a beauty

 

[LesserSon]

I don’t know if I never looked, never knew, or just forgot: “Waterloo” stamped (upside-down) on the inside of a carry box, right behind the recess for the Craftsman badge.
I’m salvaging what I can from a rusted-out box, and cut the hinge and lid off with angle grinder to make drilling out rivets easier.

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

Here is a set that I bought in an estate sale. Love the wartime tools. I guess I’m getting nostalgic as I get older. The mechanics original tools were all there. Very cool =v= sockets and drivers, westline wrench set and some older stuff. There were a few newer ratchets (duro/indestro). Anyway I just wanted to share some pics of this cool set.

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

Here is a set that I bought in an estate sale. Love the wartime tools. I guess I’m getting nostalgic as I get older. The mechanics original tools were all there. Very cool =v= sockets and drivers, westline wrench set and some older stuff. There were a few newer ratchets (duro/indestro). Anyway I just wanted to share some pics of this cool set.

More pics

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

And finally after a long night of cleaning and polishing

 

[Smokeshow69]

And finally after a long night of cleaning and polishing

That cleaned up nicely!

 

[four.cycle]

not really "heritage" or "crowntop", but rather than start another thread:


Craftsman 47641 Hand Impact Tool Set

* three of the four bits are stamped VACO. I cannot find a production code on the driver unit or the adapter piece.

 

[Cruzan80]

The rectangular logo is post Crown top, so 76/77 at the earliest. Think it lasted into the early 90's, IIRC.

 

[MZC2]

I just went through 35 pages of posts looking for this version of the heritage logo, with blue background and red letters.
Here are the posts in this thread where this logo appears: 65, 664, 807, 817, 1122, 1157, 1221, 1263.
(Hopefully this will save time for the next person looking for the logo.)

Mine came off this box, which was painted at least twice by owner(s). The box appears twice in the '48 catalog, on Pg 8 it has a pleated front but on the back cover its non-pleated. I'm assuming the non-pleated version is the older, because the later catalogs only show pleated covers.

I'm in the process of trying a restore. Over the years the hinges were repaired with rivets and a lousy weld job, so I removed them and will be replacing them with new. At least that's the plan!

$15 for the box on Craigslist.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

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[Cruzan80]

Shows as private unless part of the group

 

[Mintgrun]

1950s Craftsman Delux Roller Cabinet​

$100$120 · In stock
Listed in Brunswick, OH

1950s Craftsman Delux Roller Cabinet. Not easy to find. Not perfect but could easily be cleaned up.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That's it!

 

[Smokeshow69]

1950s Craftsman Delux Roller Cabinet​

$100$120 · In stock
Listed in Brunswick, OH

1950s Craftsman Delux Roller Cabinet. Not easy to find. Not perfect but could easily be cleaned up.

Oh somebody needs to get that! That’s a good price!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Picked up this late 40's "trunk lid" 3 drawer top chest this weekend at an estate sale for $45. It's absolutely filthy but really straight. I gotta degrease it and show it some love with some cork liners and some boiled linseed oil.

 

[FrankLee]

I recently acquired this power tool bench #2140.

Because it has angled legs, it's of '51-'52 vintage. It's interesting that the catalogs still used the long underline C logo.

It cleaned up acceptably well.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I recently acquired this power tool bench #2140.

Because it has angled legs, it's of '51-'52 vintage. It's interesting that the catalogs still used the long underline C logo.

It cleaned up acceptably well.

Nice tool stand! Those are not super common in these parts.

 

[AntiqueBen]

How is it that I'm just noticing this now. Here are the logos on 3 of my toolboxes. All 3 have the same logo, but all three are also different. Do you see it? I would now assume we can determine which version is the oldest?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

How is it that I'm just noticing this now.

If by "noticing" you mean realizing GJ has a thread dedicated to Heritage logo era Craftsman tools..., probably because you did not see it appear on Page 1 of the Forum.

In the last few months, this thread was only active (i.e., new posts bumping it to Page 1) on April 22-23, May 7-8, July 6-7, July 28-30, August 8-9, August 28, October 15-16, November 3-4, and November 11-13. All the other days in between you would not have "noticed" it, because it was located somewhere between Pages 2 and n of 537 pages.

There are several much more active threads than this one, but there are dozens of far less active threads that you have also probably not "noticed."

If you take some time to peruse the A-Z Index of Threads in the Sticky at the top of the forum, you can review a list of ALL THREADS in the GJ Vintage Tools Discussion forum, by type, and by brand, at one time, whether they are active or not.

 

[AntiqueBen]

If by "noticing" you mean realizing GJ has a thread dedicated to Heritage logo era Craftsman tools..., probably because you did not see it appear on Page 1 of the Forum.

In the last few months, this thread was only active (i.e., new posts bumping it to Page 1) on April 22-23, May 7-8, July 6-7, July 28-30, August 8-9, August 28, October 15-16, November 3-4, and November 11-13. All the other days in between you would not have "noticed" it, because it was located somewhere between Pages 2 and n of 537 pages.

There are several much more active threads than this one, but there are dozens of far less active threads that you have also probably not "noticed."

If you take some time to peruse the A-Z Index of Threads in the Sticky at the top of the forum, you can review a list of ALL THREADS in the GJ Vintage Tools Discussion forum, by type, and by brand, at one time, whether they are active or not.

I used the Sticky to find this thread because I knew I wouldn't find the proper thread in a broad Craftsman search. Which Craftsman thread is most active to pose my logo question?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

EDIT: Aha! It just struck me that you meant noticing the differences in the badges!

This is the right thread for your question, Ben. Patience. It tends to not move as frequently as others, so it might be a day or two (or three, etc) until the right guys read your post. The other possibility is that your post has been read, but nobody knows. The Heritage phase was not that long to begin with, between Long C and Crowntop, so if anyone even noticed those relatively minor distinctions in the badges, and if the distinctions are even chronological, I'm not sure anyone was even interested enough in sequencing them.

 

[AntiqueBen]

EDIT: Aha! It just struck me that you meant noticing the differences in the badges!

This is the right thread for your question, Ben. Patience. It tends to not move as frequently as others, so it might be a day or two (or three, etc) until the right guys read your post. The other possibility is that your post has been read, but nobody knows. The Heritage phase was not that long to begin with, between Long C and Crowntop, so if anyone even noticed those relatively minor distinctions in the badges, and if the distinctions are even chronological, I'm not sure anyone was even interested enough in sequencing them.

Gotcha. It will be interesting to see if anyone else has noticed this or might know the story behind it. The one badge that says "Registered Trade Mark" also has another difference. The A in Craftsman is a "barn door A" instead of being a pointed A. I thought all the A's from this era was pointed?

 

[Cruzan80]

Generally speaking, pointed A was before flat topped A. I know someone did a deeper dive into the logos previously, either here or OWWM. There was also the blue background version as well. The toolboxes also had a different type (solid oval, no wings).

 

[FrankLee]

How is it that I'm just noticing this now. Here are the logos on 3 of my toolboxes. All 3 have the same logo, but all three are also different. Do you see it? I would now assume we can determine which version is the oldest?

Interesting! I work mainly on Craftsman bench power tools and have had 200+ machines. About half of those were heritage era. I have not had any of the older boxes.

Below are the only heritage badges I've had/seen. The fonts are all different. Your "MADE IN U.S.A." badge is the first of its kind I've ever seen.

King-Seeley is the only manufacturer I've ever seen on any badge.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Generally speaking, pointed A was before flat topped A. I know someone did a deeper dive into the logos previously, either here or OWWM. There was also the blue background version as well. The toolboxes also had a different type (solid oval, no wings).

Are you referring to the no wing/ oval logo found on the 8 drawer lower rollers, the wall cabinets and also the 5 drawer lower deluxe rollers?

 

[Cruzan80]

Are you referring to the no wing/ oval logo found on the 8 drawer lower rollers, the wall cabinets and also the 5 drawer lower deluxe rollers?

Yes, wasn't sure what else to call those. Not sure if how much they changed

 

[MZC2]

Are you referring to the no wing/ oval logo found on the 8 drawer lower rollers, the wall cabinets and also the 5 drawer lower deluxe rollers?

Also the 3 drawer roller. (Although none of the catalogs have the large oval.)

 

[AntiqueBen]

Wow, looks like there's no shortage of variants when it comes to this particular logo. I have two of these logos that are identical except one has pointed A's & the other one doesn't. Also, some of them has the beginnings of a long C, where the bottom of the C is longer than the top. Then other C's are even top & bottom. It looks almost impossible to somehow put all these variants in some kind of chronological order.
I didn't realize I was opening a can of worms on this one

 

[Provincial]

I think vendors were allowed a large amount of latitude in the markings back in those times. If it was true to the general theme, it was approved.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I didn't realize I was opening a can of worms on this one

It doesn't appear to have been much of a topic at all, let alone a source of messy debate, competing theories, and bickering, Ben. It could even turn out to be more of a mountain/molehill thing.

I think vendors were allowed a large amount of latitude in the markings back in those times. If it was true to the general theme, it was approved.

If you're implying some of them could be overlapping or in parallel or contemporary to each other, I concur...

...if the distinctions are even chronological,

 

[Cruzan80]

I think vendors were allowed a large amount of latitude in the markings back in those times. If it was true to the general theme, it was approved.

Except most of the changes seem to appear on the same vendor's machines. So not sure why they would have different plates running concurrently (excepting using up older batches). For example, I have seen multiple different badges on King Seeley machines. So some kind of timeline makes sense.

The hard part is that Sears sold some of these for long stretches, and didn't date machines, so it would require dated motors attached (and establishing if the motor was bought at the same time). Toolboxes being the exception to the dating scheme...

 

[AntiqueBen]

Except most of the changes seem to appear on the same vendor's machines. So not sure why they would have different plates running concurrently (excepting using up older batches). For example, I have seen multiple different badges on King Seeley machines. So some kind of timeline makes sense.

The hard part is that Sears sold some of these for long stretches, and didn't date machines, so it would require dated motors attached (and establishing if the motor was bought at the same time). Toolboxes being the exception to the dating scheme...

All of my badges I posted are on toolboxes (not rollers). They're on a 16", 20" & a 24" toolbox. I agree that maybe older batches could have been used, just seems odd they would have had so many different types at the same time.

 

[Cruzan80]

That is what I am saying. I think they were in use at different times, but without having identifying marks to date them, it makes it much harder.

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

I think the mid 40s was a free for all. I bet I have six or seven different variations of the circle h sockets. I’m of the opinion that the wings on the logos and the circle h sockets were the later portion of the heritage era. A failure to commit to a logo if you will.

 

[Cruzan80]

were the later portion of the heritage era

I think you meant Earlier portion of Heritage, or late portion of Long C. Late portion of Heritage would be transitioning into Crown top.

I think there was also an issue of swapping suppliers, in this case from NB to MDF.