Show Your Heritage Logo Love

[btrnuthatch]

DaveT -- Thanks! To add to the story, the original price for the set was $40 OBO! I offered $100 without hesitation to hold it for me as I could not get there right away. Fortunately the seller worked with me and honored the deal. Six long angst-filled days later, I loaded them up.

I've removed and internally cleaned all the drawers from the 10-d top box (all in great shape). Today I start external cleaning with JoCoSawdust's WD40/0000 super fine steel wool method. In parallel, I'm trying to digest the comments on drawer liners; cork seems cool but too expensive.

 

[ooba tooba]

Oldtuleguy, great setup looks awesome. I had a hard time finding the vintage all metal ball peen hammers that belong on the left door but finally found a couple years later.


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Hey these look great stocked! I lucked out on mine one day on my way home from work. Happened down a side street and a guy was loading up tons of old boxes and tools on an open trailor. I spotted this cab and asked how much. He said he was going to list everything on Craigslist but if I had any cash on me he’d take it. I felt bad because I only had a $10 bill. I even offered to run to an ATM to grab a little more to throw in, but he refused. It’s missing the lock, and looks a little different inside than yours. I just now went out and put some oil on 0000 steel wool and rubbed off the painted over emblem. Pretty cool. It came with a hacksaw, blades, glass cutters, marking crayons, drill bits and these screwdrivers and scrapers. I’d say a good score

 

[ooba tooba]

As long as I’m in this thread I might as well post this.
Found the bottom half a few hours south.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Very nice grab for 10$ ooba! Nice roller too.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Man you were in the right place at the right time for that wall cabinet ooba. Congrats!

 

[mcmlvif100]

Hey these look great stocked! I lucked out on mine one day on my way home from work. Happened down a side street and a guy was loading up tons of old boxes and tools on an open trailer. I spotted this cab and asked how much. He said he was going to list everything on Craigslist but if I had any cash on me he’d take it. I felt bad because I only had a $10 bill. I even offered to run to an ATM to grab a little more to throw in, but he refused. It’s missing the lock, and looks a little different inside than yours. I just now went out and put some oil on 0000 steel wool and rubbed off the painted over emblem. Pretty cool. It came with a hacksaw, blades, glass cutters, marking crayons, drill bits and these screwdrivers and scrapers. I’d say a good score

Nice find. Great price. These Craftsman wall cabinets came with a variety of interiors. Mine came with pegboard. Some threads that relate

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322379

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374113

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yes there was a woodworking version and a mechanics version.

 

[ooba tooba]

Oh neat! It’d be nice to have both stacked with period tools. Thanks guys! Still working on my Snap On cabinet from the mid 1920s.

 

[ooba tooba]

Oops. Now with pics.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Sweet cabinet!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I've still got a rash over the thought of a 10/8 Heritage combo being listed for 40 bucks. Even at 100 it was a steal.

Question/conversation topic for the brain trust. I recently saw another collector post a 3/8d Heritage clamshell box that he was having an issue with. Turns out, I've got one as well with the same issue. On both of these boxes, the socket tray isn't wide enough to accommodate the standard line up of 3/8d sockets. As you can see in this pic, the universal joint wouldn't fit in it's proposed compartment unless you hammered it in with a sledge. I tried BE and H sockets with no luck. I compared the misfit box with a 3/8d pre-war Fit-Mor box and a later Firestone box. Both other boxes have plenty of room to accommodate what's supposed to be in the kit. I briefly considered the possibility of it being designed to hold an expanded 1/4d set. I threw that off pretty quick as the tray is TOO big for 1/4d sockets and there just weren't enough 1/4d accessories at the time to justify a box this size.

Here's the spin: Both my box and the other collector's misfit box wear the blue Heritage logo. I thought mine might be a bad day at the office foul up (and perhaps it still is, along with the other box), but my question to the group is: Does anyone have a 3/8d clamshell box with a predominately blue Heritage logo on it that actually holds the sockets and universal?

I've always wondered about the blue Heritage logo. I'm considering now the possibility that anything blue-badged was from a different OEM. I know we've discussed the possibility of two different OEMs for the early pre-war tool chests. Could there have been another company with a small contract with Sears to keep up with production demand?

I know there's no definitive answers on this but I'd like to hear somebody else's thoughts on it.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have a red logo box with circle u stuff, fits ok.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I've still got a rash over the thought of a 10/8 Heritage combo being listed for 40 bucks. Even at 100 it was a steal.

Question/conversation topic for the brain trust. I recently saw another collector post a 3/8d Heritage clamshell box that he was having an issue with. Turns out, I've got one as well with the same issue. On both of these boxes, the socket tray isn't wide enough to accommodate the standard line up of 3/8d sockets. As you can see in this pic, the universal joint wouldn't fit in it's proposed compartment unless you hammered it in with a sledge. I tried BE and H sockets with no luck. I compared the misfit box with a 3/8d pre-war Fit-Mor box and a later Firestone box. Both other boxes have plenty of room to accommodate what's supposed to be in the kit. I briefly considered the possibility of it being designed to hold an expanded 1/4d set. I threw that off pretty quick as the tray is TOO big for 1/4d sockets and there just weren't enough 1/4d accessories at the time to justify a box this size.

Here's the spin: Both my box and the other collector's misfit box wear the blue Heritage logo. I thought mine might be a bad day at the office foul up (and perhaps it still is, along with the other box), but my question to the group is: Does anyone have a 3/8d clamshell box with a predominately blue Heritage logo on it that actually holds the sockets and universal?

I've always wondered about the blue Heritage logo. I'm considering now the possibility that anything blue-badged was from a different OEM. I know we've discussed the possibility of two different OEMs for the early pre-war tool chests. Could there have been another company with a small contract with Sears to keep up with production demand?

I know there's no definitive answers on this but I'd like to hear somebody else's thoughts on it.

I still am getting over my hives from that deal that guy got ... in terms of your box, i have no clue but it is cool as heck!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Yeah it's cool alright....and empty!

 

[btrnuthatch]

Here is a socket box I have used to hold my circle H stuff. The prongs for holding the speeder (I think) are goobered and the leather handle has seen better days.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thats just patina

 

[btrnuthatch]

Cleaning done (after/before). Drawer liners need some relaxing from the roll (Duck Brand, Solid Grip). Haven't solved top chest key challenge so top lid won't fully shut. Next wax, deciding on location (requires making room), and loading up -- I have BE, Circle H, Circle U and =v= stuff. Pondering what to put in the narrow deep drawer besides the drill suggestion in the 1957 catalog.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Cleaning done (after/before). Drawer liners need some relaxing from the roll (Duck Brand, Solid Grip). Haven't solved top chest key challenge so top lid won't fully shut. Next wax, deciding on location (requires making room), and loading up -- I have BE, Circle H, Circle U and =v= stuff. Pondering what to put in the narrow deep drawer besides the drill suggestion in the 1957 catalog.

Boy that cleaned up nicely. And yes, I still hate you I have that same combo but it isn't that clean and i haven't finished the restoration

 

[JoCoSawdust]

It looks fantastic btrnut! Congrats again on that incredible find.

 

[ooba tooba]

Cleaning done (after/before). Drawer liners need some relaxing from the roll (Duck Brand, Solid Grip). Haven't solved top chest key challenge so top lid won't fully shut. Next wax, deciding on location (requires making room), and loading up -- I have BE, Circle H, Circle U and =v= stuff. Pondering what to put in the narrow deep drawer besides the drill suggestion in the 1957 catalog.

Sweet stack!!

 

[Provincial]

btrnuthatch, if you have a copy of Machinery's Handbook, you should try fitting it in that tall narrow drawer. It looks very similar to the center drawer of machinist's boxes that is designed to hold that book.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I always thought that drawer was for shop whiskey!

 

[btrnuthatch]

Thanks guys. That's the last time I'm doing that kind of project. Way too much effort and I didn't even do as much as I could. The thought of restoration is enough for a nightmare. I'm sure I'd give up halfway. Got a good laugh when I told my wife I was shopping for drawer liners; she said it sounded "girlie." I've put the Machinery's Handbook on hold at my local library to pick up in a couple days. If I drank whiskey . . .

 

[bmwrd0]

That drawer is both too wide and too deep for a Machineries handbook, I kept my Fluke in that drawer. It fit perfectly in its case.

 

[Provincial]

Ah, leave it to GJ to have first-hand experience reported in less than two hours!

And the extra space can be used for other reference materials.

 

[Zrxrunner]

Saw this saturday at local restore for $50. Passed on it, thought it thru, and ran back down on lunch yesterday for it. Missing badge, but i know by the outline what goes there. 1957 AMD made box in pretty good shape!

 

[bmwrd0]

Ah, leave it to GJ to have first-hand experience reported in less than two hours!

And the extra space can be used for other reference materials.

Well, I feel a little embarrassed now, because I went and checked the 10-drawer under my lathe, and low and behold, there is one in there! But it doesn't fill the drawer up, and so I keep an extra chuck in there along with the manuals for the lathe.

 

[d42jeep]

I've still got a rash over the thought of a 10/8 Heritage combo being listed for 40 bucks. Even at 100 it was a steal.

Question/conversation topic for the brain trust. I recently saw another collector post a 3/8d Heritage clamshell box that he was having an issue with. Turns out, I've got one as well with the same issue. On both of these boxes, the socket tray isn't wide enough to accommodate the standard line up of 3/8d sockets. As you can see in this pic, the universal joint wouldn't fit in it's proposed compartment unless you hammered it in with a sledge. I tried BE and H sockets with no luck. I compared the misfit box with a 3/8d pre-war Fit-Mor box and a later Firestone box. Both other boxes have plenty of room to accommodate what's supposed to be in the kit. I briefly considered the possibility of it being designed to hold an expanded 1/4d set. I threw that off pretty quick as the tray is TOO big for 1/4d sockets and there just weren't enough 1/4d accessories at the time to justify a box this size.

Here's the spin: Both my box and the other collector's misfit box wear the blue Heritage logo. I thought mine might be a bad day at the office foul up (and perhaps it still is, along with the other box), but my question to the group is: Does anyone have a 3/8d clamshell box with a predominately blue Heritage logo on it that actually holds the sockets and universal?

I've always wondered about the blue Heritage logo. I'm considering now the possibility that anything blue-badged was from a different OEM. I know we've discussed the possibility of two different OEMs for the early pre-war tool chests. Could there have been another company with a small contract with Sears to keep up with production demand?

I know there's no definitive answers on this but I'd like to hear somebody else's thoughts on it.

Since I don’t have a circle H u-joint it’s hard to tell. I could try a =v= u-joint if they are the same size. Just ignore the bad repaint. I have been.
-Don

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Yup. I've got 3 red badge Heritage boxes like that and they all hold their pieces as they should. The blue badge seems to be the trouble maker.

 

[Provincial]

Perhaps the early u-joints were built lighter and all got turned in for warranty?

 

[ed4banger]

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[JoCoSawdust]

Nice job of sleuthing there Ed. It must be extremely era-specific as this is what I came up with. Sticking with the more satin-is chrome sockets, all but the 3/4 fit. The 11/16 here is really snug, snugger than it should be. I tried 6 different 3/4 inch sockets of varying eras (based on chrome and engraving), none fit. I'm still scratching my head here but it looks like you've found the right parts for your box. My universal here is obviously a later =V= era and must be significantly larger than the early ones as it doesn't fit either.

 

[leg17]

I always thought that drawer was for shop whiskey!

Worked in the shop for 50 years.
Seen whiskey, assorted vegetation and pharmaceuticals, and also seen pistols.
A co-worker worked previously second shift at another shop, and one of the guys there bragged that occasionally for lunch break excitement he would rob gas stations. He said he wasn't there much longer after my friend started.

Takes all kinds.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

The lunchtime gas robbery concept made me spit my coffee out. Thanks!

 

[ed4banger]

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[JoCoSawdust]

I think you did solve it Ed, at least a part of it. We were both hung up on BE, H, or U stuff. I hadn't even thought about early =V= in the equation but it makes sense.

 

[Cruzan80]

I also wonder if it had some of that wierd =H= stuff. Would fit the rarity and the timeline.

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[GalaxyRat]

Does anyone know if hammers came painted? This one I picked up has remnants of a paint job and was wondering if it would be original. Thanks!

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[LesserSon]

In a word - yes.
But the paint does not cover the entire head. Where the head can be polished, there’s no paint. Presumably, the steps after forging were paint, polish, lacquer.

 

[btrnuthatch]

Well, I feel a little embarrassed now, because I went and checked the 10-drawer under my lathe, and low and behold, there is one in there! But it doesn't fill the drawer up, and so I keep an extra chuck in there along with the manuals for the lathe.

Wow, just picked up the Machinery's Handbook from the library. What a tome! I'm very sure I'm the first person to check it out as many of the pages were still slightly stuck together on the edges. Too bad I don't read hieroglyphics.

But as a metal sculptor I like the shape. I'm considering making a mold of one I can buy on eBay to cast other "Handbooks" in bronze.