Show Your Heritage Logo Love

[JoCoSawdust]

It always nice to find something you didn't even know existed. Prior to last night, I thought the 6d Heritage top chest first showed up in 1953, which is the first year the boxes in the catalog lacked the full front cover. When I looked through the catalogs, I confirmed this (or so I thought). I failed to do the next logical step, instead taking the lazy way out. I hauled out the Heritage logo spot light and directed it towards the Pacific Northwest. Brian was kind enough to do the next logical step and spotted it in the 52 Big Book. It's billed as the "New! Craftsman Machinist Chest". This is the only front cover chest I've seen with the later hammered gray paint, unlike the earlier wrinkle (darker gray) ones. This chest has drawer pulls with three parallel lines on them instead of the more ornate ones that came along later. I have a 3d roller with these pulls on them and always wondered where they fit in to the time line. This helps nailing down the transition from the early Heritage boxes to the later ones and establishes that the paint change occurred prior to the loss of the dust cover. Thanks for the help Brian!

 

[DaveT]

It always nice to find something you didn't even know existed. Prior to last night, I thought the 6d Heritage top chest first showed up in 1953, which is the first year the boxes in the catalog lacked the full front cover. When I looked through the catalogs, I confirmed this (or so I thought). I failed to do the next logical step, instead taking the lazy way out. I hauled out the Heritage logo spot light and directed it towards the Pacific Northwest. Brian was kind enough to do the next logical step and spotted it in the 52 Big Book. It's billed as the "New! Craftsman Machinist Chest". This is the only front cover chest I've seen with the later hammered gray paint, unlike the earlier wrinkle (darker gray) ones. This chest has drawer pulls with three parallel lines on them instead of the more ornate ones that came along later. I have a 3d roller with these pulls on them and always wondered where they fit in to the time line. This helps nailing down the transition from the early Heritage boxes to the later ones and establishes that the paint change occurred prior to the loss of the dust cover. Thanks for the help Brian!

That’s a really nice piece piece Scott. Great find and as always excellent research.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Thanks Dave. I always enjoy learning something new and the Craftsman brand seems to be a bottomless pit of things that pop up unexpectedly.

 

[Ricky Joe]

Be careful! You’ll be old and full of ephemeral knowledge that contributes nothing to a better world!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I'm already borderline old Ricky and full of knowledge that serves absolutely zero purpose in life. It does come in handy while playing board games every now and then.

 

[outofbounds]

Wondering where a raised panel DBE like this falls in......the first of Moore Drop Forging? Prior to any =V= stamp and after Long C raised panel models? Is there a specific year or two where these fall in?

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I'd put that wrench as immediately post-war oobs. The post-war period at Sears was like *************** mixed with Mardi Gras with a little bit of GI payday on Hay Street thrown in. Lots of OEMs competing for the "modern" era of the Sears line of tools. The raised panel wrenches show up with a V cast into the shank (not stamped into the raised panel as later MDF =V= wrenches had), a Circle P casting (Wilde?), and no markings at all. For all I know there's other variations out there as well. It's hard to tell how many manufacturers threw their hats in the ring for a Sears contract after the war. While I don't know who made that wrench of yours, I'm 100 percent confident that it's immediate post-war.

 

[d42jeep]

I’ve ended up with several of those immediate postwar or late war wrenches.
-Don

 

[daradke]

Another one of my Grandad's treasures. How about a Craftsman razor strop? I love the description, 'Genuine Imported Timber Tanned **** Hide'. Doesn't look like this one has ever seen steel!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Another one of my Grandad's treasures. How about a Craftsman razor strop? I love the description, 'Genuine Imported Timber Tanned **** Hide'. Doesn't look like this one has ever seen steel!

That's really cool! I have some long C razor blades... Sears really used the craftsman brand on alot of items, including housewares and underwear even

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Now that's a cool wall hanger daradke. First one of those I've seen and I'm looking nearly every day.

 

[bmwrd0]

That's really cool! I have some long C razor blades... Sears really used the craftsman brand on alot of items, including housewares and underwear even

I have a Craftsman workshirt, I think it is from the eighties by the logo, but sadly my figure no longer is from the eighties...

 

[daradke]

That's really cool! I have some long C razor blades... Sears really used the craftsman brand on alot of items, including housewares and underwear even

I just found a pair of Craftsman manual hair clippers I'll get pics of and post this weekend.

 

[daradke]

Now that's a cool wall hanger daradke. First one of those I've seen and I'm looking nearly every day.

I'll keep you in mind if I'm looking to share the luv.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Please do daradke! I'd love to give that thing a good home where it could sing the song of its people.

 

[daradke]

I'd put that wrench as immediately post-war oobs. The post-war period at Sears was like *************** mixed with Mardi Gras with a little bit of GI payday on Hay Street thrown in. Lots of OEMs competing for the "modern" era of the Sears line of tools. The raised panel wrenches show up with a V cast into the shank (not stamped into the raised panel as later MDF =V= wrenches had), a Circle P casting (Wilde?), and no markings at all. For all I know there's other variations out there as well. It's hard to tell how many manufacturers threw their hats in the ring for a Sears contract after the war. While I don't know who made that wrench of yours, I'm 100 percent confident that it's immediate post-war.

I may or may not have opened a can of worms with this.

 

[daradke]

Please do daradke! I'd love to give that thing a good home where it could sing the song of its people.

Would that be a 'dibs'?

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Shoot me a PM with a price if you're looking to sell daradke. We try to keep business transactions off the threads (except for the classifieds) but yes, I'm interested if the price is right. Thanks.

 

[Provincial]

Nice catalog shot!

I call the combos of that era "narrow beam" when they are not as wide across as the later versions.

I see the Dunlap nut drivers are called "Spintite" and they look just like the Walden ones. Makes me think that Walden was the supplier.

 

[ooba tooba]

It always nice to find something you didn't even know existed. Prior to last night, I thought the 6d Heritage top chest first showed up in 1953, which is the first year the boxes in the catalog lacked the full front cover. When I looked through the catalogs, I confirmed this (or so I thought). I failed to do the next logical step, instead taking the lazy way out. I hauled out the Heritage logo spot light and directed it towards the Pacific Northwest. Brian was kind enough to do the next logical step and spotted it in the 52 Big Book. It's billed as the "New! Craftsman Machinist Chest". This is the only front cover chest I've seen with the later hammered gray paint, unlike the earlier wrinkle (darker gray) ones. This chest has drawer pulls with three parallel lines on them instead of the more ornate ones that came along later. I have a 3d roller with these pulls on them and always wondered where they fit in to the time line. This helps nailing down the transition from the early Heritage boxes to the later ones and establishes that the paint change occurred prior to the loss of the dust cover. Thanks for the help Brian!

Are you able to tell when mine might have been made by looking at it? I just assumed 1940s. I see my pulls are different than yours. I found the bottom box separately stored in a horse barn.

 

[ed4banger]

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[Smokeshow69]

Well, five hr. round trip today to grab this relatively unmolested heritage roller. Needs some cleaning, and missing the lift out tray, but overall OK condition. I've seen worse.....

Dang Ed, that one is really clean! That one will just need some light cleaning/waxing and should be ready to go. You can tell it is an earlier one based on the trunk style corners on the lid. Nice work!

 

[ed4banger]

Dang Ed, that one is really clean! That one will just need some light cleaning/waxing and should be ready to go. You can tell it is an earlier one based on the trunk style corners on the lid. Nice work!

Thanks, does this have a date stamp?

 

[drivesitfar]

Nice cabinet Ed!!

Somebody might know for sure that sees this thread or I bet they’d know on the vintage toolbox thread if you post it there cause I few of those guys bot the craftsman catalogs on dvd that you might also own.

 

[Cruzan80]

If they are dated, it is frequently on the backside behind the heritage logo. I think the earlier ones weren't dated.

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[ed4banger]

If they are dated, it is frequently on the backside behind the heritage logo. I think the earlier ones weren't dated.

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No date there, just stamped Advertising Metal Display Co., Chicago Ill.

 

[Smokeshow69]

No date there, just stamped Advertising Metal Display Co., Chicago Ill.

I want to say the earlier trunk style lid boxes are not dated ?? My 10 drawer trunk lid isnt dated either... however, my crown top 8 drawer lower roller is dated '59 ( heritage style roller but 2 year only badge)..

 

[btrnuthatch]

Smoke -- What does "trunk style lid" mean? Mine (stamped 58) kinda sorta looks like that but I don't know what detail to focus on.

4banger -- Beautiful boxes!

 

[ooba tooba]

Very nice Ed! That’s a nice looking setup, and clean. It wouldn’t have lasted long were you not to grab it. Any idea the number of years this style was available?

 

[ed4banger]

Smoke -- What does "trunk style lid" mean? Mine (stamped 58) kinda sorta looks like that but I don't know what detail to focus on.

4banger -- Beautiful boxes!

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[ooba tooba]

And Smoke, what do you mean by “2 year only badge”? And if it is a style badge that was only around 2 years will you post a pic please? Thank you sir.

 

[Cruzan80]

There was only two years that AMD made boxes with a Crowntop logo. And looking in the catalogs, I only see the 8-drawer in 59 (they have heritage and Crowntop in 58)

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[ooba tooba]

Oh I see, thanks Cruzan! I didn’t realize the crowntop style logo was used that early. For some reason I was thinking it appeared in mid 60s. I really should look at some catalogs.

 

[Smokeshow69]

There was only two years that AMD made boxes with a Crowntop logo. And looking in the catalogs, I only see the 8-drawer in 59 (they have heritage and Crowntop in 58)

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Yup correct, the crowntop logo appeared really late in 58' and was also on 59'...by 1960 sears went to the more modern red and gray boxes.

 

[Smokeshow69]

And Smoke, what do you mean by “2 year only badge”? And if it is a style badge that was only around 2 years will you post a pic please? Thank you sir.

This is a picture of my roller after i picked it up from bmwrd0...I have since begun restoration on it... Note the corners of the top chest-referred to in the catalogs as trunk lid corners...the top chest is a heritage while the lower 8 drawer is a crown top badge... (it has the cover down so you cant see the bottom 2 drawers)

 

[Old Radar]

Yup correct, the crowntop logo appeared really late in 58' and was also on 59'...by 1960 sears went to the more modern red and gray boxes.

Actually they appeared very early in 1958. I bought this stack last year at an estate sale. Under various drawer liners were the pictured documents. You'll note the catalog extract still depicts the heritage badge.

Under one liner I found the delivery slip showing the catalog number, the weight and the price. It was delivered to the owner on 13 Feb 1958 at the same address where I picked it up.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Actually they appeared very early in 1958. I bought this stack last year at an estate sale. Under various drawer liners were the pictured documents. You'll note the catalog extract still depicts the heritage badge.

Under one liner I found the delivery slip showing the catalog number, the weight and the price. It was delivered to the owner on 13 Feb 1958 at the same address where I picked it up.

This documentation is nothing short of awesome! I looked at the pictures but maybe I missed the date...was the #13 the delivery date ? Super cool that you got these. I have seen a few tool boxes found recently on fb that still had these style of tags on them. So cool

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Ed: Yet another great find. You're really on a roll!

ooba: Sorry I missed your question. Your stack is 45-48ish. The early Heritage boxes had two pulls per drawer (horrible design feature). Not knocking your boxes at all, they're fantastic matched specimins, just that 2 pulls per drawer makes it a two handed operation to open a drawer if there's any weight in it. Great early stack!

OR: +1 on great documentation!! The more dirty paper we find on these things, the more we can narrow things down. Catalogs are a mediocre source of information at best in all things Sears related.

Smokes: Looking at that pitiful Crown 8d, I can tell it really, REALLY wants to live in North Carolina.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Thinking aloud here...if a Crown labeled AMD box was delivered to a customer's doorstep in the first half of the second month of 1958......it about had to have been manufactured in late 57?

Thoughts?

 

[ooba tooba]

Cool! To both of you. Do people seek out the Crowntop cabs because they may be more scarce?