Show your "Long C" Craftsman!

[outofbounds]

Maybe not as exciting to any of you as it is to me but I was ecstatic to find this for a dollar this morning! 1/2 inch Be slider

Beats my deal. I bought the same Slider couple days ago, but Circle H. Had to pay up at $2 to get it off of the Pawn shop.

 

[jusridin]

Beats my deal. I bought the same Slider couple days ago, but Circle H. Had to pay up at $2 to get it off of the Pawn shop.

Lol, I would have happily paid 2 dollars also

 

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I found this 11in long 3/8 drive BE extension at the flea yesterday. I haven't seen one this long before.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Nice find! Those don't pop up too often (at least for me). As far as I know, the 11" 3/8 extensions only came with the 16pc 3/8 sets (in addition to being sold separately). This 20 inch Circle H was only available as an individual item.

 

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Good to know. Thanks. I had a feeling that I shouldn’t leave it behind.

 

[d42jeep]

Here is one that I found on Friday that I haven’t run across before, at least not a Craftsman this old. Unfortunately, the ball on the long leg is missing. I may try to repair it.
-Don

 

[r_olson_06]

That cleaned up amazing as always. You have a wonderful talent.

Here is one that I found on Friday that I haven’t run across before, at least not a Craftsman this old. Unfortunately, the ball on the long leg is missing. I may try to repair it.
-Don

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061

 

[d42jeep]

That cleaned up amazing as always. You have a wonderful talent.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061

My talent is in buying Evaporust.
-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

So modest....

 

[bmwrd0]

I found this 11in long 3/8 drive BE extension at the flea yesterday. I haven't seen one this long before.

Nice find! I am working on one of the 16 pc sets right now.

 

[Rileysan]

Estate sale finds today.

 

[Rileysan]

Last photo of the DBE set

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I've drooled over Rileysan's amazing estate sale haul over on another site so here, I'll ask if anyone has ever seen another of those cases the 3/8d set is in? Looks very familiar to a C-series case but with some differences. Transition box from C series to the early BE sets?

 

[Rileysan]

I've drooled over Rileysan's amazing estate sale haul over on another site so here, I'll ask if anyone has ever seen another of those cases the 3/8d set is in? Looks very familiar to a C-series case but with some differences. Transition box from C series to the early BE sets?

You made me take a closer look. The 3/8" drive sets from the 1930s were called "Fit-Mor" by Sears.

"These wrenches with their slender handles and short thin walled sockets, will Fit-Mor tight places than any other style within its range of sizes"

As you no doubt are already aware, the illustrations in the Craftsman catalogs leave much to be desired. The 1939 catalog shows the updated version of that socket box - which is the best illustration available. The earlier catalogs have very poor illustrations. The big difference between the socket boxes is the slots and dividers for all the tools.

Here are illustrations from 1938 & 1939.

 

[Rileysan]

Here's a closer look at the socket set, along with another 3/8" Fit-Mor box for comparison. I also took photos of the BE ratchet from that early set next to a later Circle-H ratchet. Notice how the early ratchet has a narrower head.

 

[r_olson_06]

That condition is amazing. To have orginal boxes from that early of tools is unheard of.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061

 

[four.cycle]

Rileysan - great finds. That wrench set with the original box is fabulous.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I was so busy eyeballing the case I failed to notice the narrow head ratchet. I believe Gear Wrench has some info in the works regarding the difference in the rats. I definitely think the narrower heads are the earlier of the two. Here's a Fit-Mor I found complete a while back with the plain-jane case and wider ratchet head. What's the font like on the socket logo Brian? Wondering if it's the geometric Long C or the earlier plain font CRAFTSMAN. Regardless, I think you've got a very early treasure there and you totally ****.

 

[Rileysan]

Here's an unusual item:

Craftsman "Insolent handle" screwdriver. Never seen one before.

 

[Rileysan]

I was so busy eyeballing the case I failed to notice the narrow head ratchet. I believe Gear Wrench has some info in the works regarding the difference in the rats. I definitely think the narrower heads are the earlier of the two. Here's a Fit-Mor I found complete a while back with the plain-jane case and wider ratchet head. What's the font like on the socket logo Brian? Wondering if it's the geometric Long C or the earlier plain font CRAFTSMAN. Regardless, I think you've got a very early treasure there and you totally ****.

The sockets are marked with the earlier plain font and hyphenated sizes, making these early BE.

 

[Provincial]

From Webster's:

Definition of insolent
1: insultingly contemptuous in speech or conduct : OVERBEARING
2: exhibiting boldness or effrontery : IMPUDENT

That must be an annoying screwdriver!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Interesting branding with hilarious connotations. Must be their early take on the insulated properties of whatever composite they were using at the time, akin to "Insuloid," etc, right? Have you searched your Catalogs DVD for that term, Brian?

 

[JoCoSawdust]

The sockets are marked with the earlier plain font and hyphenated sizes, making these early BE.

I'm going to have to get a new scale on my jealousy meter. Nice!

 

[bmwrd0]

The sockets are marked with the earlier plain font and hyphenated sizes, making these early BE.

I have some of these and a box (unmarked) that fits them. I just need a breaker bar.

 

[bmwrd0]

sorry, duplicate

 

[LesserSon]

I picked up these replacement handles New Years Eve. Thought I had a longC head for the C’man underline, but that head is too small.

 

[Outlawmws]

Are you sure it doesn't say "insulated"?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Are you sure it doesn't say "insulated"?

I had a good look at it in person and it doesn’t. It reads just as he posted. I thought it was interesting marketing to say the least


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[Oldtuleguy]

Perhaps at that time it was a term used in that way.

 

[wrenchguy]

Estate sale finds today.

Kinda on the "QT" about the blue pistol grip screwdriver ain't ya? I believe its only the second 1 in the tread?

Posted this 1 about a year back. Real nice long c haul!

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I picked up these replacement handles New Years Eve. Thought I had a longC head for the C’man underline, but that head is too small.

Been wondering if it's only me that gets excited about finding NOS hammer handles? I sure don't find them near enough. Nice finds LS!

 

[Rileysan]

Kinda on the "QT" about the blue pistol grip screwdriver ain't ya? I believe its only the second 1 in the tread?

Posted this 1 about a year back. Real nice long c haul!

Thank you!

I really ought to have given the pistol grip it's proper introduction, but there was so much to sort from that haul. That, and I already had 2 more I've never shared



Brian

 

[bmwrd0]

Been wondering if it's only me that gets excited about finding NOS hammer handles? I sure don't find them near enough. Nice finds LS!

Are you kidding? I have two NOS Proto handles squirreled away for just the right occasion.

 

[wrenchguy]

Thank you!

I really ought to have given the pistol grip it's proper introduction, but there was so much to sort from that haul. That, and I already had 2 more I've never shared



Brian

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Craftsman "Insolent handle" screwdriver.

I'm still bemused by this.

I will ask again: Has anyone searched (or looked through, if searching is not a feature...) the Craftsman Catalogs DVD for this term? Or "Insulent" perhaps? Or to see if they used any alternative term? The 30's were very popular for branding shock-proof screwdriver handles made of Pyralin. Blue-Point used "Insuloid," for example. Herbrand used "Protectogrip."

I tried Google and the only returns I get is this passage from an Ellery Queen mystery:

"He handled his car like a craftsman, insolently exact, both careful and careless at the same time."



"Insolent" would appear to be a Sears, Roebuck & Co version for Craftsman in the same era. It's just so bizarre that nobody has seen one before, and that the term doesn't appear in any digital tools literature.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

1938. I haven't searched the plus/minus on this yet. Cool artifact and Brian just ***** that much more!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Brian, what do you think that handle is made of? In the pic it looks like lead.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, JoCo. So, no "T". It was amusing while it lasted, but "INSOLEN" makes much more sense than "INSOLENT".

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...what do you think that handle is made of?

It looks like Bakelite, but my guess would be Pyralin. That is just an inference based on my knowledge of what several other OEM's (as mentioned above) were using at that time. There were other composites.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Yeah I think having an insolent screwdriver running around the shop could stir up trouble amongst the other tools.