Show your "Long C" Craftsman!

[Outlawmws]

Sorry I wasn't clear - I have the top box and had it shipped 3000 miles. The roller I also have but that was local. The top was the one item not locally bought. (But again, not off Eprey)

 

[RubiconJK]

Great accomplishment Joco...congrats!

 

[r_olson_06]

Thanks to fellow GJ members Don and Roy (thank you!) I was able to complete the 100pc Master Socket Set from 1939. This would be the first year of a Craftsman branded top chest and the first year they offered a comprehensive tool set which would be a staple of Sears marketing for decades to come. If the catalogs are correct, they offered the 100 pc set in 39 and 40. In 1941 the 3/4d items were dropped from this set. All of the holes are filled now, I'll keep looking for items to swap out some of the pieces that are in lesser quality condition. This has been fun putting together.

Anytime. Well done sir.

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[Oldtuleguy]

Some BM 3/4 stuff for the long c fans

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Damn OTG! That's as near-perfect a set of those as anyone is likely to find. Incredibly jealous here!!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thanks joco I thought you might like those! Long c logo really jumps out on the big sockets.

 

[Rileysan]

Some BM 3/4 stuff for the long c fans

My mouth hit the floor. That is an exceptional set!

Brian

 

[Outlawmws]

Incredible 3/4 set AND a nice condition box, WITH the logo!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thanks guys. It is in pretty good shape for an 80+ year old set.

 

[Gear Wolf]

Thanks guys. It is in pretty good shape for an 80+ year old set.

That is an understatement. Your set is likely in the top 1% of original condition examples out there.

Sure there is oxidation on the toolbox, but your sockets look like they were just made. Thank you for sharing this treasure with us.

 

[outofbounds]

I don't know if this qualifies as "Long C" in as much as the Craftsman logo is vertical, but the guy selling it claimed it as "pre-war", (and dubbed it a Mohawk drill press, for obvious reasons I presume) so I thought I'd toss it on this thread.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

OOB, 42-43 Mohawk DP, definitely from the Long C era. I really like those DPs.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Thanks GW . The long c stuff is fun to collect.

 

[Outlawmws]

oob, 42-43 mohawk dp, definitely from the long c era. I really like those dps.

thanks gw . The long c stuff is fun to collect.

 

[Outlawmws]

So here is a question for all you Long C collectors:

How long have you been collecting the Long C stuff?

I started when I still lived in my old house, so >30 years; possibly as long as 35 years...

I pulled about a half dozen Long C sockets out of my mad mix of sockets and replaced them with other good/better brands... (I was working towards having one of each size, drive, and depth in my working set, so I always had the right socket needed... as well as upgrading when the opportunity arose - I'm STILL doing that despite having mostly sets of the common stuff, as well as simply trying to build sets of good vintage brands...)

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I started picking it up maybe 5 or 6 years ago

 

[r_olson_06]

So here is a question for all you Long C collectors:

How long have you been collecting the Long C stuff?

I started when I still lived in my old house, so >30 years; possibly as long as 35 years...

I pulled about a half dozen Long C sockets out of my mad mix of sockets and replaced them with other good/better brands... (I was working towards having one of each size, drive, and depth in my working set, so I always had the right socket needed... as well as upgrading when the opportunity arose - I'm STILL doing that despite having mostly sets of the common stuff, as well as simply trying to build sets of good vintage brands...)

Passively for about 5 years. I pick them up in the dollar bins. Sell some off every now and then. I have 200ish pieces yet mostly sockets and drives. If anybody needs some set fillers hit me up.

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[bmwrd0]

I don't specifically collect long C so it is mostly hit and miss for the last few years. Anyway, I picked these two pieces up:



With a logo like this, I could not pass it up. But I am curious about this logo versus the more common long C, what are the dates for this? What was the reasoning?

I also picked up the speeder, not sure if the combination of geometric c and -V- code is common:
I don't recall ever seeing this before, but I have the perfect box for it.

 

[Rileysan]

I don't specifically collect long C so it is mostly hit and miss for the last few years. Anyway, I picked these two pieces up:



With a logo like this, I could not pass it up. But I am curious about this logo versus the more common long C, what are the dates for this? What was the reasoning?

I also picked up the speeder, not sure if the combination of geometric c and -V- code is common:
I don't recall ever seeing this before, but I have the perfect box for it.

B, that box and logo was introduced during the war. I can only speculate about the reasons but there must have been a change in vendors for the socket boxes. Shortly after the war, they sold sets in the same boxes with the more familiar Heritage logo, though I haven't researched how long. If you are interested in a trade for something, I'll be happy to take that box off your hands!

Brian

PS - will you be at the swap meet in Vancouver this Sunday? I'll be in booth 212.

 

[AngryBeaver]

 

[bmwrd0]

Let me think about a trade Riley, there might be things I could be interested in.

As for this weekend, I am not sure, my son is in town so I am a bit dependant on his schedule.

 

[GalaxyRat]

So here is a question for all you Long C collectors:

How long have you been collecting the Long C stuff?

I started when I still lived in my old house, so >30 years; possibly as long as 35 years...

I pulled about a half dozen Long C sockets out of my mad mix of sockets and replaced them with other good/better brands... (I was working towards having one of each size, drive, and depth in my working set, so I always had the right socket needed... as well as upgrading when the opportunity arose - I'm STILL doing that despite having mostly sets of the common stuff, as well as simply trying to build sets of good vintage brands...)

I only started collecting about 3 months ago

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[JoCoSawdust]

I don't specifically collect long C so it is mostly hit and miss for the last few years. Anyway, I picked these two pieces up:



With a logo like this, I could not pass it up. But I am curious about this logo versus the more common long C, what are the dates for this? What was the reasoning?

I also picked up the speeder, not sure if the combination of geometric c and -V- code is common:
I don't recall ever seeing this before, but I have the perfect box for it.

I've wondered myself when they changed from that type of clamshell to the later silver/gray one with the tri-color Heritage logo. Since I'm bored to death in a hotel tonight I spent some time perusing the catalogs.

I agree with rileysan about your box being released during the war. Focusing on the midget sets, my best guess is the last year your clamshell was featured was 1952. While it's impossible to be sure from black and white images, the 52 catalog shows the midget set in a clamshell that has the long, open tray for the sockets. 53 shows the individual holes for each socket in the midget set. I'd say that's when the change was made across the board for the different sizes of clamshells. I've picked up Gen1 box head midget sets in both type of clamshells but never a Gen2 in the early box so it makes sense to me that most of the Gen1s were put in the older style box with the last of the stock winding up in the new style.

As far as your speeder goes, I don't think Sears started parts numbers until the late 60s (68 or 9?). I believe yours is post-MDF and into the Easco era. EDIT: The geometric lettering is a bit of a head scratcher. I've got a bunch of various era speeders back home but can't get to them now to compare.

EDIT numero 2: More boredom means more catalog searching. I have to amend my assertion that your clam shell was released during the war. The only way to discern between "Long C" clamshells and later designs is the box corners. Long C=square corners, later versions=rounded corners. Craftsman clamshells still have square corners after the war. The first rounded corner clamshell (with the oval and 3 lines embossed) is in 47.

 

[Mike2969]

Here is a picture of my long c

 

[Rileysan]

Here is a picture of my long c

Welcome to GJ, Mike! That's a great vise and as good an introductory post as anyone can ask for.

Brian

 

[outofbounds]

I believe this to fit the Long C "era", if perhaps not the classic definition of the logo. Can anyone validate my thinking that this is a 40s Craftsman nut driver?

 

[r_olson_06]

I believe this to fit the Long C "era", if perhaps not the classic definition of the logo. Can anyone validate my thinking that this is a 40s Craftsman nut driver?

Damn. I have not seen that one before. Judging by the sizing using the dash may put it 30s similar to the early BE sockets.

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[outofbounds]

Damn. I have not seen that one before. Judging by the sizing using the dash may put it 30s similar to the early BE sockets.

Precisely my initial thought process too, Roy. I just didn't want to be presumptuous that it could even be older, especially with a plastic handle. I was thinking Circle H as a time frame, and that the 3-16 marking might just be an outlier.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

I believe this to fit the Long C "era", if perhaps not the classic definition of the logo. Can anyone validate my thinking that this is a 40s Craftsman nut driver?

That's an interesting piece. The earliest nut drivers I can find in what catalogs I have available is 47 and they're wooden handled Dunlaps. The first Craftsman I can find is 49. The dash in the fractional marking sure looks early but I'm not finding any in the 30s or earlier 40s catalogs. Hopefully someone else will come along and shed some light on the markings. I don't have any of the amber handled nut drivers.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Here is a picture of my long c

Welcome Mike. Nice vise!

 

[Outlawmws]

There is a gap between BE/circle H and Western Forge who dominated the drivers MFG for Sears for decades from 47/48 to 1965,

Not sure who had driver production in between, and how far that it went into the font era for Long C...

That definitely is plastic. OOB, are there any maker's stamps/letters anywhere?

 

[outofbounds]

There is a gap between BE/circle H and Western Forge who dominated the drivers MFG for Sears for decades from 47/48 to 1965,

Not sure who had driver production in between, and how far that it went into the font era for Long C...

That definitely is plastic. OOB, are there any maker's stamps/letters anywhere?

Outlaw, I want to believe there is a "MF" on the next skinny rib below the Craftsman, (and closer out to the end of the handle) but I can't state that definitively. I tried to make a picture to let other's decide, but whether or not there any there or just some scratches is almost impossible to say. Nothing at all on the metal part of the tool.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

A "Just because" purchase. Should clean up okay.

 

[JoCoSawdust]

A "Just because" purchase. Should clean up okay.

Now that is cool. I generally avoid old power hand tools but that would have followed me home as well.

 

[Outlawmws]

That is a cool drill and even more interesting that it is 110-120 Volts AC and DC...

Usually they jurt mark them a single voltage and then maybe AC/DC

 

[Outlawmws]

Picked up a Long C Machinists at a yard sale today - It pays to ask if they have stuff! My first Long C vise! 5186

Some of the original blue paint left...

25 bucks

 

[wrenchguy]

Wheres that meter!

 

[JoCoSawdust]

Very nice Outlaw! I always ask....often times the "Oh yeah I have this" is better than the original find.

 

[AngryBeaver]

killer score.... so jealous

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks, guys. And it works, too! I'll take your word for the unusual data plate, Outlaw. I've never seen another one. As for collecting power tools, I'm the same way, JoCo. Other than this, I picked up a B&D power drill a few years ago because a few years before that I found a cool little B&D drill stand and wanted to put something in it.

Nice vise, Outlaw.