JoCoSawdust
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I believe these are the "fancy hinges" GW is referring to. This is from a midget set box but apparently the other drive sizes that were boxed in the red/maroon clam shells had these hinges as well.
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I believe these are the "fancy hinges" GW is referring to. This is from a midget set box but apparently the other drive sizes that were boxed in the red/maroon clam shells had these hinges as well.
bmwrd0
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You know, I am pretty sure I have that box, sans lable. I have been trying to figure out for months what goes in it, and the only thing that fits are the very early BE sockets. This pretty much confirms that.
Smokeshow69
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Actually, 100% complete including all socket trays, with an extra 3/8 non-amber speeder.
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Well done sir ! What an amazing find. Did a forum member alert you to this or did you just happen to stumble on the auction?
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twertsy
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Nope, I saw it in an auction listing 2 weeks before the auction........it was a long wait!
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Smokeshow69
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Those are the toughest to wait for... always lots of pins and needles
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Rileysan
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Can you please post photos directly to the post? 3rd party hosting sites present possible spam, security issues, and bandwidth problems for those of us who use smart phones. Thanks!
Brian
cdrewferd
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Fixed, sorry about that.
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cdrewferd
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The drill press on the left had a light mounted on it, so that's what your seeing above it. Wasn't an original light. The gold drill press went to one of my brothers and the black one went to another brother. Kept the long C for myself.
Rileysan
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This came up on FB Marketplace. It didn't take long before I knew what it was. Even though it has been spray bombed, it's very well preserved.
"Long-C" Craftsman 3 drawer top chest, ca. 1942. It even has the original tray!
Brian
"Long-C" Craftsman 3 drawer top chest, ca. 1942. It even has the original tray!
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Great score on the vise TM.
Rileysan
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I suspect it's for a Freightliner truck from the 1950s. As you can see from the photo, there's a White/Freightliner emblem attached to the front as well as the diagrams. The bigger wiring diagram has a code (7-58) in the lower left corner. My best guess is that a previous owner worked for Freightliner here in Portland.
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JoCoSawdust
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In order to relieve your overwhelming guilt over stealing that chest you now need to purchase a White Freightliner. You can call it the "Blue Mule".
Rileysan
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I did a little work on the newly acquired Craftsman 3 drawer top chest, today. There's lots of blue paint under that awful green hack job. I began removing the green paint from the top of the lid but quickly burned out on that job, and moved on.
With much effort, I pulled the drawers out (thank you Smokeshow for pointing me in the right direction) and wiped everything down, straightened the bottom rail (after removing a bracket put there by a previous owner), and oiled the drawer slides. This has the smoothest drawers I've ever used on this vintage of Craftsman box!
One final comment. No one challenged me on the assertion I had a ca. 1942 top chest. The reason I made that assumption is that this has the original rivets from the rectangular badge that was discontinued during the war, and replaced with transfer labels like those used on the socket sets. I have always assumed that badge was made of aluminum but have not actually seen one in person. My roller had one originally as well, and is missing.
Brian
With much effort, I pulled the drawers out (thank you Smokeshow for pointing me in the right direction) and wiped everything down, straightened the bottom rail (after removing a bracket put there by a previous owner), and oiled the drawer slides. This has the smoothest drawers I've ever used on this vintage of Craftsman box!
One final comment. No one challenged me on the assertion I had a ca. 1942 top chest. The reason I made that assumption is that this has the original rivets from the rectangular badge that was discontinued during the war, and replaced with transfer labels like those used on the socket sets. I have always assumed that badge was made of aluminum but have not actually seen one in person. My roller had one originally as well, and is missing.
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Rileysan
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I like the way you think! I could have a vintage truck to haul vintage tools!
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JoCoSawdust
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The rectangular logos are indeed aluminum Brian. I would challenge you on the idea the waterslide logos came in during the war. I have two Long C 2d chests. The one with the waterslide logo lacks drawer slides and appears to be exactly like the one depicted in the 39 catalog. The one with the rectangular logo has drawer slides and appears to be exactly like the one depicted in the 41-42 tool flyer. Lacking any catalog images of their chests from 43-44, I'm not so sure they went back to the waterslides. EDIT: I think the root question would be: did they even produce tool chests during the war? My guess is that whatever chests were sold in retail stores during the war were produced prior to the war. Perhaps there's wartime catalogs/flyers out there showing tool chests but I haven't seen one.
I was successful in removing spray bomb paint from a Heritage chest once. For about 15 minutes. I then decided the spray bomb looked pretty damned good.
What's the secret to removing the drawers from these things? I've tried the hack saw blade/Snap On chest method with no success.
I was successful in removing spray bomb paint from a Heritage chest once. For about 15 minutes. I then decided the spray bomb looked pretty damned good.
What's the secret to removing the drawers from these things? I've tried the hack saw blade/Snap On chest method with no success.
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JoCoSawdust
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Or you could just get the hood ornament from a WF and put it on the Camry!!
Rileysan
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I should have left it with "the aluminum badge was discontinued during the war". I know the transfer labels were in use prior to the war but I have no knowledge, anecdotal or other, of the rolling cabinets and top chest having the rectangular badges exclusively prior to the war. My main point is that if it has the aluminum badge, it had to have been made prior to the war.
I had to make a tool in order to separate the drawers from the slides. I used a thin piece of steel flat bar that I ground down with an angle grinder to fit between the drawer and the slide. The slides have a piece of spring steel that catch on a louver on the drawer a few inches inside. There's no way to depress that spring steel other than to slide a fitted piece of steel deep between the slide and drawer. If I had a piece of steel banding available, I would have used that.
Brian
JoCoSawdust
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To delve deeper into the prewar chests, there's a 3rd variant of the 2d chest out there as well. Aside from the exterior differences between my two chests, the interiors differ as well. The chest on the left has a smaller tray and more partitions in the top compartment. The chest on the right has a larger tray and less partitions. There's a chest that's been languishing on eBay for a long time (overpriced in my opinion) that's a mix of the two. The exterior matches the chest on the left (less crinkle to the paint, waterslide decal) yet has the interior features of the chest on the right (larger tray, less partitions). I contacted the seller and asked him if his chest had drawer slides. He answered me but was on vacation. He said he'd get back to me but never did. I speculate that my chest on the left is from 39, the chest on eBay is from 40 and the chest on the right is 41 to when they went with the Heritage logo. I believe the 3d square corner, no ribbing on the dust cover Heritage chests (I believe you have one Brian?) are merely leftover Long C chests that were painted gray and had the Heritage log affixed.
JoCoSawdust
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Hmm. I probably need to do a little more grinding on my "tool" to get that drawer slide to release.
Rileysan
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I absolutely agree about the Heritage 3d chests with flat, square cornered lid and front cover. With the exception of the badge and color, my 3d top chests are identical, down to the drawer partitions and slides (sans tray. I don't have a tray in the Heritage chest to compare). I've located another 3d top chest that has the original badge, and I'm just waiting to hear back from the seller. I get so damned anxious waiting!
Here's a photo of my 3d Heritage chest for comparison.
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JoCoSawdust
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Yup. Thanks for the comparison and let me issue a pre-emptive "You ****" for yet another early Heritage chest!
Rileysan
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That's akin to saying "good shot" on the golf course, right before your ball plunks into the water hazard!
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outofbounds
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Long C grinder, less motor, for sale in Fenton, MI (near Flint)
No affiliation to seller
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/236433327723749/
No affiliation to seller
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/236433327723749/
outofbounds
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Apparently today is Long C grinder day......
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1096849587348819/
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1096849587348819/
outofbounds
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Long C Paint Sprayer on FB Marketplace. I don't evaluate em, I just report em....
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/225334171918337/
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/225334171918337/
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Re: Here are three Pre Long C Craftsman DOEs
I thought it would be fun to post a few shots of some Pre Long C Craftsman DOEs. According to AA these are not the oldest Craftsman wrenches, as I read it they are the second oldest; maybe early '30s. I have had these for a while and wanted to fill the set; they seem somewhat scarce and I wonder if I have found out why. They feel nice in the hand, the flats are nice and flat, and the idea that the name etc. is stamped seems to add a touch of humanity to the process of their manufacture which is missing in some later wrenches where the info is molded in.
One seller had one in a group of three, when I queried I was told I probably would not went the one she has because the part that grips the fastener is "mushroomed".
I never noticed that until I took some photos of the ones I have. I wonder if most of these got discarded because the metal they are made of distorts a lot in normal use so people went on to something else.
All you experts out there - what do you think?
I thought it would be fun to post a few shots of some Pre Long C Craftsman DOEs. According to AA these are not the oldest Craftsman wrenches, as I read it they are the second oldest; maybe early '30s. I have had these for a while and wanted to fill the set; they seem somewhat scarce and I wonder if I have found out why. They feel nice in the hand, the flats are nice and flat, and the idea that the name etc. is stamped seems to add a touch of humanity to the process of their manufacture which is missing in some later wrenches where the info is molded in.
One seller had one in a group of three, when I queried I was told I probably would not went the one she has because the part that grips the fastener is "mushroomed".
I never noticed that until I took some photos of the ones I have. I wonder if most of these got discarded because the metal they are made of distorts a lot in normal use so people went on to something else.
All you experts out there - what do you think?
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David Jackson
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Well in that case the old wrenches might well have been replaced with newer style ones which are made of better steel. Could that be?
Provincial
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Yes, but at the other end of the Sears lifespan, the tools were replaced with lesser quality current production!
David Jackson
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So, in the good old days, if a person brought in one of the wrenches I was writing about, with Stamped instead of Cast Craftsman info, and which wrenches aren't really all that good because the open end steel gets "mushroomed", it would most likely be replaced with a current production (whatever time period that was) which was made of better steel which would not mushroom. The wrenches might not look the same, the new to the person bringing in the Stamped name one wrench would be the current style at the time he or she brought it in. The person would be better off with a better tool.
Nowadays, however, the warranty is honored with lesser quality stuff.
Is that about the size of it?
Nowadays, however, the warranty is honored with lesser quality stuff.
Is that about the size of it?
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danandmelrod
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Hi all,
Reading the earlier post on the mechanics tool chest
made me want one for my collection.
I spotted this toolbox for sale today
. I reached out to the owner and he is willing to hold it for me. Not as nice as sawdust’s but pretty cool!
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made me want one for my collection. I spotted this toolbox for sale today
. I reached out to the owner and he is willing to hold it for me. Not as nice as sawdust’s but pretty cool!Attachments
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Great snag!