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AJHD

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Why? Is their online catalog not the same?

Mike

Nostalgia from a day before online parts catalogs. I still prefer them if I could get them. I have a Snap On catalog.

Also I think it's just the rarity of McMaster catalogs that make them desired.
 
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Gotcha. I miss things like the Sears tool catalogs and wish books. Searching on the McMaster and Grainger sites can sometimes be frustrating, especially if you don't know the proper terminology for what you need.

Still, $60 (or more) seems like a stupid amount of money for a catalog. I guess if it saves you time it's worth the investment.

Mike
 

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Gotcha. I miss things like the Sears tool catalogs and wish books. Searching on the McMaster and Grainger sites can sometimes be frustrating, especially if you don't know the proper terminology for what you need.

Mike

Yeah, I grew up with catalogs before the internet.

Not sure if Grainger still offers a catalog, it's been a few years since I had one. Not many vendors/manufacturers still offer print versions of anything these days.
 

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Why? Is their online catalog not the same?

Mike
In my opinion the online McMaster catalog and iPhone app are better than the print catalog, but receiving one is a nerd badge of honor. You can't really order one, they print in extremely limited numbers, and they choose who gets one and who doesn't. Allegedly you can request one, but I don't think they fulfill every request.

 

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Gotcha. I miss things like the Sears tool catalogs and wish books. Searching on the McMaster and Grainger sites can sometimes be frustrating, especially if you don't know the proper terminology for what you need.

Still, $60 (or more) seems like a stupid amount of money for a catalog. I guess if it saves you time it's worth the investment.

Mike
Pre-internet, it was really useful and packed with all sorts of info besides part numbers.

I use to make a weekly order with them and the one time I asked for a catalog; the guy acted like I asked to borrow his wife for the night or it was printed on goldleaf!
 

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...Not many vendors/manufacturers still offer print versions of anything these days.

I know, it's frustrating to not get a printed owners manual, especially for something like a lawn tractor or snowblower (anything with an engine that sees rough usage, really). I usually go online, download and print them ASAP.

Worse, some of those manuals don't include parts diagrams and lists anymore, which really makes it difficult to search as machines age and parts start to become discontinued.

I've noticed the same problem with cars / trucks. They used to give you a part number and say NLA, but now you don't even get a part name or number sometimes, which makes it even more difficult to find used parts.

Anyways, back onto new tools...

I recently purchased these screwdrivers (posted a few weeks ago), primarily for the ECX (#1) tip, to use when replacing some outlets. It worked great, but I dropped it in a dark corner of the basement, and let's just say I'm not a big fan of the handle being black...

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Enlighten me:

When does one encounter 1000 volts?

Similar to watches with 300m ? Would kill you but the watch is ok.

I’m not a ‘sparky’ and most of the organizations I managed were ‘small wire’ experts, but 13.8 kV is pretty common where I worked. In fact, I think 13.8 is actually considered a ‘medium voltage’ in the transformer world.
 

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Why? Is their online catalog not the same?

Mike

It essentially is- all the PNs are there, but the layout might be a little different. I'm actually surprised they still offer a printed catalog. But there is a tiny need for a printed catalog for a select few people. 15-25 years ago, I worked for a contract engineering firm that did classified government work. No internet access allowed for classified work; it's in a separate room, removable hard drives that go in a safe (at that time), and basically isolated from the world- except for air LOL. Someone, maybe me, called McM and tried to get two updated catalogs from them in ~2005 and they basically said "Why do you need a print catalog- do you know about the internet?" We explained the reason, but it still took at least three months to get the catalogs. And I get it, they're very expensive to print...
 

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Just like service manuals, I’ve used them and I know where the little information I need is, on line may be a little more current but I didn’t grow up with it and it takes me longer to find what I want, I must be old?
 

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A few items from my favorite tool brands.
First up from Tekton: a magnetic bit holder, 1/4 drive magnetic bit socket, a 3/8 ell handle, the new straight probe pick, and the 180 degree hook pick.
From ASTRO: new thin wall 1/2 drive half sized lug nut impact socket set. 17.5, 19.5, 21.5, & 22.5 mm sizes in a blow molded case. unlike the half sized flip sockets other brands offer, these are thin walled for improved access. I would have preferred a 18.5 instead of the 17.5 but, that's just me. Below the half sized lug nut socket set, is an 11 piece set of 3/8 drive half sized impact sockets ranging from 9.5 to 19.5mm on a nice aluminum rail. Just in case you encounter undersized, swollen, or damaged nuts & bolts. Lastly from Astro, heavy duty THOR .401 shank air hammer six piece chisel and cutter set with the 3 piece hammer bit set next to it. We'll see how the stuff performs. :beer:
 

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In my opinion the online McMaster catalog and iPhone app are better than the print catalog, but receiving one is a nerd badge of honor. You can't really order one, they print in extremely limited numbers, and they choose who gets one and who doesn't. Allegedly you can request one, but I don't think they fulfill every request.

I worked with a guy that had an old McMaster paper catalog. He had bookmarked and highlighted the hell out of it for all the parts he used. Even after the internet, he still used that catalogue. He retired and the book remained in the office. That catalog disappeared sometime during that toilet paper run a few years back.
 

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Yeah, I grew up with catalogs before the internet.

Not sure if Grainger still offers a catalog, it's been a few years since I had one. Not many vendors/manufacturers still offer print versions of anything these days.
Yes, Grainger still has a catalog....just looked the brand new one the other day at work.
 

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I guess the novelty hasn’t worn off on this guy. Really can’t get over how beautiful these turned out and what a pleasure they are to use. @teagueo honestly Dude, you hit it out of the park with these.
 

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Enlighten me:

When does one encounter 1000 volts?

Similar to watches with 300m ? Would kill you but the watch is ok.


“Pappy always spent all of his money in town when he got back from the oil platform, but at least when they reeled his body back up that day, we had his dive watch and FACOM pliers to help pay for the tombstone."
 

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I worked with a guy that had an old McMaster paper catalog. He had bookmarked and highlighted the hell out of it for all the parts he used. Even after the internet, he still used that catalogue. He retired and the book remained in the office. That catalog disappeared sometime during that toilet paper run a few years back.
I keep a couple of old catalogs around for similar reasons, I can instantly go to products that I often use without going through layers upon layers of the selection tree. Also it's an excellent reference book for something like bearing or thread sizes.

As mentioned in several replies terminology can be a barrier to finding something quickly, many times I have struggled to find a product using verbiage that differs from that used by McM.
 

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I keep a couple of old catalogs around for similar reasons, I can instantly go to products that I often use without going through layers upon layers of the selection tree. Also it's an excellent reference book for something like bearing or thread sizes.

As mentioned in several replies terminology can be a barrier to finding something quickly, many times I have struggled to find a product using verbiage that differs from that used by McM.
And as I've mentioned before, just randomly paging through the catalog showed me a bunch of products that I'd never known even existed and would never have occurred to me, some of which I've subsequently used. It's hard to use an internet search that way.

Which reminds me, it's about time for me to drop into where I used to work and see if I can scrounge a less outdated catalog.
 

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NTD! Just picked up a Milwaukee M18 cable stripper with 1/0 - 750MCM aluminum conductor dies!

With all the multi-family dwellings we are doing lately, there about 30~40 SER per building that need to be landed both at the panel and at the meter packs. This makes cable prep MUCH quicker.

Now just need to get the BIG M18 cable cutter!
 

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Didn’t need another set of these, but while walking through HD this morning, I saw these on clearance for $10. They’ll stay in the 4Runner.

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Quoting my own message …
Went back to HD and found another of the $10 deal sets … BUT … when I was checking out, the guy in front of me had one of the small (10 bit) kits in his cart. He was about to spend about the same amount of $ for a fraction of the product!! I really don’t need another set, so I politely suggested that he take the bigger set. Now empty-handed, I went back and actually found 2 more sets!! My good karma was rewarded and the SILs will get the 2 I found.
 

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Back in the mid 2000's my boss would receive a new issue McM catalog as they came out and he would routinely throw the old (last issue) book in the trash. I saw him do that one day and told him that people would kill for one of those. He looked at me with a perplexed face so I told him to do a search on E-bay for McM catalog. About 5 minute's later he was pulling it back out of the trash. IIRC he got about $60 for his old one.
Amazing, never thought of that. We get 4 of them at work each time a new one comes out. Typically we recycle the old ones.

Not next time though.

I have a 118 and 125 sitting on my bookcase at work and at least two of them at home...
 

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Got some proto ASD combination wrenches in black oxide a little while back. Ordered them individually in 10-24mm skipping a 20mm and 23mm. Pictured on a Cornwell wrench wrack, the 24mm sits separately in the bottom of my box.

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The beveled entrance to the open jaws makes them easier to slip onto a fastener head which came in handy recently when I was spinning a banjo bolt down in a small area.

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Compared to an old Proto, 19mm ASD on top, equivalent 3/4" on the bottom. You can see that the new ones are a bit longer and the beam meets the head and box end with a radiused fillet instead of a 90 degree parting line. The beam profile has also changed to be more of a rounded off rectangle than the pointier oval on the old ones.

Besides the ASD feature, the box end has also been redesigned. Rather than the old two-angle design, the valleys are radiused and slightly recessed back from the peaks for off-corner loading. The radius and angle on the chamfer has also been reduced which theoretically provides more contact area on the fastener.

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Yo these black oxide are amazing! Are they still available
 
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