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[Squankum]

I thought so too... And properly staggered! It's dumbfounding to me why so many XL double boxes have bizarre size combinations with skips and duplicates.

Mine are 10x11, 12x14, 13x15, 16x18, 17x19. Perfect.
I've seen some with some strange combinations, no 11, multiple 12's.

One more pic...

Someday if I have a bigger garage and bigger tool chest, there are some things I'll be buying. Long box wrenches like this are one of them! Right now, I don't have the room for them, and heck, I feel like I don't even have the room to swing them, being a jack-and-jackstands guy.

I wonder if those are Taiwanese, and I have no idea if they are FACOM/USAG, but I wonder. Either way, probably Taiwan's finest -- and that's pretty fine!

 

[olsenmotorsports]

If you guys are on the TIK-TOK check out Check Engine Chuck’s load tester. Mine came in today and i am going to put it into use this week.

I have been using the Joes load tester unit as well as the Jarhead Diagnostics load lights - (do not recommend Jarhead as that boy needs a lesson in proper crimping!!)

"Load It" Variable Load Test Units

Automotive Diagnostics/Diagnostic tools

www.joesautoelectric.net

Jarhead Diagnostics Load Test Light — Jarhead Diagnostics

Perfect for adding a load to any 12v circuit!

www.jarheaddiag.com

 

[pfbz]

Does it say where they are made?

the packaging was quite simple, plastic bag with a Wurth sticker on it. It lists Germany and no other country, but doesn't explicitely say "made in Germany". They sure appear different than every tawainese version of these wrenches I've seen, so I'm guessing they are in fact made in Germany. Wherever they are made, they seem extremely well made and I love the satin chrome finish.

My general understanding is that the Wurth stuff labeled "Zebra" is their import line, and the non Zebra is COO Germany, but I know these things are often not absolute. I wouldn't make the sole judgement on the price either, the sets were originally much more expensive, but sold out. But you can still make a 'set' ordering the discounted singles...

 

[pfbz]

Well, not sure if any of you were able to get in on that Wurth box wrench deal or not, but the prices on their website are now 'adjusted'. Instead of $60 total for the five individual wrenches (free shipping), it is now more than doubled to $140, which is kind of where I'd expect it to be...

Hopefully someone else was also able to score this deal.

I originally ordered the 10x11 as a $10 "filler" to get a previous Wurth purchase over the $50 free shipping threshold, but liked the wrench enough that I ordered the other four sizes as well. Then evidently the price jumped!

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[DAustin]

the packaging was quite simple, plastic bag with a Wurth sticker on it. It lists Germany and no other country, but doesn't explicitely say "made in Germany". They sure appear different than every tawainese version of these wrenches I've seen, so I'm guessing they are in fact made in Germany. Wherever they are made, they seem extremely well made and I love the satin chrome finish.

My general understanding is that the Wurth stuff labeled "Zebra" is their import line, and the non Zebra is COO Germany, but I know these things are often not absolute. I wouldn't make the sole judgement on the price either, the sets were originally much more expensive, but sold out. But you can still make a 'set' ordering the discounted singles...

I ask because I ordered a Wurth Zebra 10x13mm offset box wrench. The photo showed Germany on the wrench. When I got it there was no "Germany" on the wrench I got so, I guess they started making them in some other country. It seems like a well-made wrench but when I ordered it, I thought I was getting a German made wrench and paid the price like it was made in Germany. Had I known it was made somewhere other than Germany I would not have bought it and paid less for one I know was made in Taiwan. I made me mad the photo showed the German made wrench and the one I got wasn't.

 

[L.Cheapo]

If you guys are on the TIK-TOK check out Check Engine Chuck’s load tester. Mine came in today and i am going to put it into use this week.

I have been using the Joes load tester unit as well as the Jarhead Diagnostics load lights - (do not recommend Jarhead as that boy needs a lesson in proper crimping!!)

"Load It" Variable Load Test Units

Automotive Diagnostics/Diagnostic tools

www.joesautoelectric.net

Jarhead Diagnostics Load Test Light — Jarhead Diagnostics

Perfect for adding a load to any 12v circuit!

www.jarheaddiag.com

I emailed Jarhead a question about one of their products. They never got back to me.

Joe from Joe's Auto Electric was eager to have a conversation with me about his version of the product in question within an hour or so of asking.

I bought Joe's. And a bunch of other stuff from him. Real nice guy.

 

[Fedwrench]

Well, not sure if any of you were able to get in on that Wurth box wrench deal or not, but the prices on their website are now 'adjusted'. Instead of $60 total for the five individual wrenches (free shipping), it is now more than doubled to $140, which is kind of where I'd expect it to be...

Hopefully someone else was also able to score this deal.

I originally ordered the 10x11 as a $10 "filler" to get a previous Wurth purchase over the $50 free shipping threshold, but liked the wrench enough that I ordered the other four sizes as well. Then evidently the price jumped!

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Those long zero offset boxed end wrenches seem to be Wurth's wrench of choice when there's a sale. They go on sale frequently. I got mine a year or so ago for Black Friday and paid less than $10 a wrench. They're nice wrenches but, I think most of the Wurth mechanics tools are no longer made in Germany.

 

[olsenmotorsports]

I emailed Jarhead a question about one of their products. They never got back to me.

Joe from Joe's Auto Electric was eager to have a conversation with me about his version of the product in question within an hour or so of asking.

I bought Joe's. And a bunch of other stuff from him. Real nice guy.

Thanks for sharing! I have his load box’s and they are really well built. Love the thought he put into them!

***** about Jarhead. Great idea’s just subpar execution…..

 

[pfbz]

...check out Check Engine Chuck’s load tester. Mine came in today and i am going to put it into use this week.

I get the concept that certain electrical or device failure modes might far more easily diagnosed while under a "load" condition, but how often do you actually see that? I mean for me, it's usually blowing fuses, open circuit, or flakey intermittent but somewhat reproducible. A voltmeter (or power probe) and a DC current meter are standard fare, but I can't recall an issue where a 'headlight bulb in a box' would have been all that useful. I guess maybe certain times when I'm 90% sure a particular part is bad and will be replaced, it might get me to 95% sure?

I'm not saying this to be critical, I genuinely want to know if your shop sees the kind of issues where that device might be helpful with any regularity, and what kind of issues those are...

 

[nicks78camaro]

I get the concept that certain electrical or device failure modes might far more easily diagnosed while under a "load" condition, but how often do you actually see that? I mean for me, it's usually blowing fuses, open circuit, or flakey intermittent but somewhat reproducible. A voltmeter (or power probe) and a DC current meter are standard fare, but I can't recall an issue where a 'headlight bulb in a box' would have been all that useful. I guess maybe certain times when I'm 90% sure a particular part is bad and will be replaced, it might get me to 95% sure?

I'm not saying this to be critical, I genuinely want to know if your shop sees the kind of issues where that device might be helpful with any regularity, and what kind of issues those are...

It does happen. Same premise as an LED test light will show continuity, but an incandescent test light will show a dimly lit bulb indicating the circuit can't carry a load due to damaged wiring/corroded grounds/etc. My understanding is you need to be careful when loading a circuit if modules are involved.

 

[moemc]

Ok, last spam about my new vise for a while.. made soft jaws. Most hex jaws grab the points for a theoretically limitless size fit. Since this is a proprietary use vise, I don’t need the range, and I turned the hex 30 degrees. It’s a lot more secure with virtually no clamping load. I don’t have to tweak the vise when loading only one far end of the jaw.

For the center position it holds a small assembly. I was able to make it so the closed/tight position for both items I want to hold in the vise are at the same vise screw angle. Switching back and forth I only have to turn the handle 1/4 turn. Sort of funny that I used this huge opening compact vise with a quick release button on the screw… all just to use the same 1/4 turn of the screw most its life

This vise starts its full time job tomorrow morning. I’m excited to have it integrated into the work flow already.

 

[pfbz]

A new Knipex made it's way to my toolbox today, but of course all the cousins had to gather for a quick family portrait.... Guess the new Knipex? No, not a new Cobra ES, though I have one of those on order as well.

I also played around a bit with the various tools trying to get an excellent grip and torque a M14 bolt (21mm head) locked down in my vise, the results were kind of interesting...

 

[L.Cheapo]

I get the concept that certain electrical or device failure modes might far more easily diagnosed while under a "load" condition, but how often do you actually see that? I mean for me, it's usually blowing fuses, open circuit, or flakey intermittent but somewhat reproducible. A voltmeter (or power probe) and a DC current meter are standard fare, but I can't recall an issue where a 'headlight bulb in a box' would have been all that useful. I guess maybe certain times when I'm 90% sure a particular part is bad and will be replaced, it might get me to 95% sure?

I'm not saying this to be critical, I genuinely want to know if your shop sees the kind of issues where that device might be helpful with any regularity, and what kind of issues those are...

I dont know how that quote got attributed to me, but I didn't make it.

But since I got the notification I'll add my thoughts. I don't know where you live but here in the rust belt where corrosion is the norm, bulbs are regularly used for load testing a circuit. Or to put in place of a solenoid or motor to see it its a wiring or solenoid or motor problem.

A compromised circuit can often carry enough voltage for a good reading on your multimeter, but can't carry enough current to run the load. As an example, a fuel pump might draw 5-8 amps. The bulbs are a good substitute for the pump to ensure circuit integrity.

I don't do the fancy cages, I just have various bulbs in bulb holders with a length of wire attached and two pins soldered on the ends that I made myself.

 

[Beerhippie]

I dont know how that quote got attributed to me, but I didn't make it.

But since I got the notification I'll add my thoughts. I don't know where you live but here in the rust belt where corrosion is the norm, bulbs are regularly used for load testing a circuit. Or to put in place of a solenoid or motor to see it its a wiring or solenoid or motor problem.

A compromised circuit can often carry enough voltage for a good reading on your multimeter, but can't carry enough current to run the load. As an example, a fuel pump might draw 5-8 amps. The bulbs are a good substitute for the pump to ensure circuit integrity.

I don't do the fancy cages, I just have various bulbs in bulb holders with a length of wire attached and two pins soldered on the ends that I made myself.

Just to add--in case it hasn't been covered before--wires can corrode inside the insulation with no visible indication. This will give you a perfectly good voltage reading with your VOM, but **** under any kind of load.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

I ask because I ordered a Wurth Zebra 10x13mm offset box wrench. The photo showed Germany on the wrench. When I got it there was no "Germany" on the wrench I got so, I guess they started making them in some other country. It seems like a well-made wrench but when I ordered it, I thought I was getting a German made wrench and paid the price like it was made in Germany. Had I known it was made somewhere other than Germany I would not have bought it and paid less for one I know was made in Taiwan. I made me mad the photo showed the German made wrench and the one I got wasn't.

Haven’t forgotten about you. Just send out a reminder to my rep, concerning the inquiry I put in back in June.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

I ask because I ordered a Wurth Zebra 10x13mm offset box wrench. The photo showed Germany on the wrench. When I got it there was no "Germany" on the wrench I got so, I guess they started making them in some other country. It seems like a well-made wrench but when I ordered it, I thought I was getting a German made wrench and paid the price like it was made in Germany. Had I known it was made somewhere other than Germany I would not have bought it and paid less for one I know was made in Taiwan. I made me mad the photo showed the German made wrench and the one I got wasn't.

My rep. got back to me within 20 minutes of my reminder, as I thought, my initial inquiry was overlooked. Anyway, his reply - and I will stress it is solely on this particular product - still made in Germany.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

(…)

My general understanding is that the Wurth stuff labeled "Zebra" is their import line, and the non Zebra is COO Germany, but I know these things are often not absolute. (…)

Zebra, in general, has nothing to do with COO.

Würth simply defines Zebra as their premium, professional/commercial grade line of tools. With key aspects being higher than average longevity, ergonomic design, high functionality. In Germany, Zebra tools also come with a “pledge of satisfaction”, if you are not happy with your purchase, you can return/exchange it beyond what applicable law/ terms of service would grant in B2B dealings/sales.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[olsenmotorsports]

Just to add--in case it hasn't been covered before--wires can corrode inside the insulation with no visible indication. This will give you a perfectly good voltage reading with your VOM, but **** under any kind of load.

@pfbz these guys pretty much answered your query. If I can I will add to it. Not sure what types of vehicles you work on - whether it is multiplex or older switch boards style control units but a light bulb is your safest - fastest way to diagnose IMHO. A power probe is a dangerous tool in the wrong hands for control units lol. I have one, but just use it to power motors etc on the bench. A light bulb on any vehicle poses no danger as long as you follow current loads per Service Data/common sense.

A strand of wire the size of a human hair can carry 12 volts as well as have good continuity. Just because it OHMS out and has voltage does NOT mean it can handle current. I have been burned a few times chasing issues because of that! 90% of my diagnostics are with light bulbs and oscilloscopes (or course scan tools but figure that is kind of a given).

I work in the Porsche space - predominantly OBD II and OBD I cars so my process is a little different as we are more ground side control focused instead of running on a centralized node network.

 

[Squankum]

Well, not sure if any of you were able to get in on that Wurth box wrench deal or not, but the prices on their website are now 'adjusted'. Instead of $60 total for the five individual wrenches (free shipping), it is now more than doubled to $140, which is kind of where I'd expect it to be...

Hopefully someone else was also able to score this deal.

I originally ordered the 10x11 as a $10 "filler" to get a previous Wurth purchase over the $50 free shipping threshold, but liked the wrench enough that I ordered the other four sizes as well. Then evidently the price jumped!

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They left off the letter E, and passed the savings on to you!

 

[rword]

Top of the morning to y’all. 40% off starts now for ITC

 

[Squankum]

A new Knipex made it's way to my toolbox today, but of course all the cousins had to gather for a quick family portrait.... Guess the new Knipex? No, not a new Cobra ES, though I have one of those on order as well.

I also played around a bit with the various tools trying to get an excellent grip and torque a M14 bolt (21mm head) locked down in my vise, the results were kind of interesting...

Do you find uses for those double-bend needle noses? I bought the simple one-bend (30 degree) ones, and they're great. Then I bought the 80 degree bended ones, they never come up. And I haven't noticed a need for the double-bend yet, but I'm sure there is one. (I only work on one vehicle that it's a modern technological nightmare, and one traditional van, and one modern van that's more accessible than a traditional van.)

 

[Prospecter]

Top of the morning to y’all. 40% off starts now for ITC

Nice! I was pondering what others might purchase, so your post is very helpful.

 

[rword]

Nice! I was pondering what others might purchase, so your post is very helpful.

My 1st set of semi deep sockets. Excited to test them out.

 

[DAustin]

My rep. got back to me within 20 minutes of my reminder, as I thought, my initial inquiry was overlooked. Anyway, his reply - and I will stress it is solely on this particular product - still made in Germany.

Kind regards,
Olli

Thank you for looking into this for me.

 

[merkyworks]

Top of the morning to y’all. 40% off starts now for ITC

I thought about getting the big meme kit (1/4 drive socket set) but the bit ratchet no longer being pass thru like the OG meme bit kit is a deal breaker for me. Talk about taking a perfect tool and making it worthless.

 

[Monte]

Lisle 13120

 

[pfbz]

Top of the morning to y’all. 40% off starts now for ITC

Top of the morning to y’all. 40% off starts now for ITC

Been there (this morning), done that (and more)

 

[IMC]

Had somebody help me bid on this yahoo Japanese auction on a whim and won it - older TechAngle from 2019 (and not my favorite color), but hoping it works well!

I noticed the part number is different than the US version (this is ATECH2N100, where as the US ones are ATECH2FR100). Anybody know what differences there are with the JDM ones?

Figure its worth the gamble. Should arrive in a few weeks to the US.

 

[rword]

Been there (this morning), done that (and more)

2nd 1/4 socket and bit set a gift ?

 

[Etchase]

It weighs 13 something pounds. I won’t be using it for long periods of times. At least Skill saws can be rested on the work. I need to go to the gym. 7 inch.

 

[Beerhippie]

It weighs 13 something pounds. I won’t be using it for long periods of times. At least Skill saws can be rested on the work. I need to go to the gym. 7 inch.

Not now--you own a 7" electrical angle-grinder, all the workout you'll need.

I used to use a 9" IR. That thing tended to kick my scrawny ***....

 

[Fedwrench]

Been there (this morning), done that (and more)

Pure genius on Harbor Freight's part to offer the V2 meme set for 40% off.

 

[WWheeler]

Pure genius on Harbor Freight's part to offer the V2 meme set for 40% off.

Even more genius (?) to price it 40% above what most everyone thought it was worth in the first place.

 

[ETJ]

Had somebody help me bid on this yahoo Japanese auction on a whim and won it - older TechAngle from 2019 (and not my favorite color), but hoping it works well!

I noticed the part number is different than the US version (this is ATECH2N100, where as the US ones are ATECH2FR100). Anybody know what differences there are with the JDM ones?

Figure its worth the gamble. Should arrive in a few weeks to the US.

ATECHxNxxx means that it is Newton meters and angle only. No ft-lb, in-lb, kg-cm or dNm.

 

[rword]

Organizing my Icon only drawers in one of my boxes

 

[mikeinri]

Even more genius (?) to price it 40% above what most everyone thought it was worth in the first place.

Don't you mean 80% more???

Mike

 

[BobsYourUncle69]

1. Gedore 1B 26pc -6-32mm -Germany. Got this set to keep in the car along with my Ampro 14pc set.
2.Gedore allen key set -Austria
3.Weller temp control heat gun -China

Something happened to me the other day that's never happened to me before , I rounded an Allenkey.
I honestly do not recall what Allen keys I had back home but never gave them much thought. They must have been good because I never rounded one , ever.
The only Allenkeys I currently own are a set of husky that I got in the 290pc tool set, they're horrible things.

I got myself a set of Gedore metric allenkeys and I also bought a longer Ampro set which I'm waiting for and those are made from s2. Now I need a decent set of SAE allenkeys - any suggestion ?

Im really not happy with anything that's in that 290pp Husky set so far expect for maybe the ratchets, and to me they're simply acceptable rather than nice , I think that set was a waste of money. It's easy to offer a lifetime warranty when the tools you warranty probably cost you a few cents each as a company to replace. Nothing fits properly , all of the sockets fit differently with a couple not allowing the ratchet to fully lock , the chamfer of the wrenches as well as the angles they are bent at varies wildly. Screw driver bits claim to be S2 but they wear down quick.

 

[CHI_Tool&Die]

1. Gedore 1B 26pc -6-33mm -Germany. Got this set to keep in the car along with my Ampro 14pc set.
2.Gedore allen key set -Austria
3.Weller temp control heat gun -China

Something happened to me the other day that's never happened to me before , I rounded an Allenkey.
I honestly do not recall what Allen keys I had back home but never gave them much thought. They must have been good because I never rounded one , ever.
The only Allenkeys I currently own are a set of husky that I got in the 290pc tool set, they're horrible things.

I got myself a set of Gedore metric allenkeys and I also bought a longer Ampro set which I'm waiting for and those are made from s2. Now I need a decent set of SAE allenkeys - any suggestion ?

Im really not happy with anything that's in that 290pp Husky set so far expect for maybe the ratchets, and to me they're simply acceptable rather than nice , I think that set was a waste of money. It's easy to offer a lifetime warranty when the tools you warranty probably cost you a few cents each as a company to replace. Nothing fits properly , all of the sockets fit differently with a couple not allowing the ratchet to fully lock , the chamfer of the wrenches as well as the angles they are bent at varies wildly. Screw driver bits claim to be S2 but they wear down quick.

I cannot figure out if I like the 1b or XL series better. I’ve been using the **** out of both and I think the 1b wins out by a hair.

 

[BobsYourUncle69]

I cannot figure out if I like the 1b or XL series better. I’ve been using the **** out of both and I think the 1b wins out by a hair.

The 1B is always the 1st wrench I grab when I need one , I then use the NR7 if I need a 2nd wrench that size or if space is too tight for the offset of the 1B. I really haven't found a wrench as nice to use in general as the 1B.

I still need to get a set of 7 XL as the 7s are sometimes a tad short. A whike ago , I needed to apply a fair amount of torque , and doing so on a short wrench isn't nice ones hands. I didn't have my 1B yet.

 

[DAustin]

The 1B is always the 1st wrench I grab when I need one , I then use the NR7 if I need a 2nd wrench that size or if space is too tight for the offset of the 1B. I really haven't found a wrench as nice to use in general as the 1B.

I still need to get a set of 7 XL as the 7s are sometimes a tad short. A whike ago , I needed to apply a fair amount of torque , and doing so on a short wrench isn't nice ones hands. I didn't have my 1B yet.

The Hazet 600LG are a little longer than the Godore XL wrenches.
10mm- 600lg-210mm
10mm-xl-190mm

13mm-600lg-245mm
13mm-xl-225mm

but they are both good wrenches.