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SMOKEYBEAR

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Oh cool. I haven’t seen these. I use oetiker clamps daily for years. Knipex sells pliers for them. Before I even knew about Knipex, it was what showed up when I ordered a tool for it from McMaster. This compound action one looks cool. I have a feeling that it won’t fit in some of the tighter areas I use oetikers, but I think I’ll have to get this anyway.
They make a 90 degree version as well. .. I have both versions, frequent use for me is on Mercury outboards motors.
 

WoodenDentures

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Set of Hazet 600n 7-24mm missing the 20 and 23mm. What bugs me is most of these are bowed to varying degrees and directions. You'd think on the expensive stuff like this they would at least get the most basic things right. Doesn't really affect useability but how are they not making them straight and uniform? It's kind of dissapointing.
 

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Set of Hazet 600n 7-24mm missing the 20 and 23mm. What bugs me is most of these are bowed to varying degrees and directions. You'd think on the expensive stuff like this they would at least get the most basic things right. Doesn't really affect useability but how are they not making them straight and uniform? It's kind of dissapointing.
As a person who spent his life working metal once explained to me, metal doesn’t want to be flat and straight.
Metal wants to twist and bend.
The heat treating process likely results in slight warping, and trying to straighten the wrenches probably adds enough extra cost that Hazet decided that close enough us good enough.
 

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Set of Hazet 600n 7-24mm missing the 20 and 23mm. What bugs me is most of these are bowed to varying degrees and directions. You'd think on the expensive stuff like this they would at least get the most basic things right. Doesn't really affect useability but how are they not making them straight and uniform? It's kind of dissapointing.
I bought a set of these 4-5 years ago. Only 1 wrench is bowed, and only very slightly.
 

moemc

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We use the Oetiker clamps all day in the "stepless" variant. For my application, its not about the clamp being low profile, but the stepless ones are able to complete 360 degrees of even clamp pressure. Typically clamps have a gap in the uniformity. That isnt an issue with softer thicker material like rubber hoses. But to clamp plastic hoses, you need that stepless feature or it is very prone to causing a leak where the plastic sort of bunches up and lifts away.
 

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Set of Hazet 600n 7-24mm missing the 20 and 23mm. What bugs me is most of these are bowed to varying degrees and directions. You'd think on the expensive stuff like this they would at least get the most basic things right. Doesn't really affect useability but how are they not making them straight and uniform? It's kind of dissapointing.


The forging process doesn’t lend itself to straight pieces. They have a guy who straightens them out by eye. Very interesting multi-part factory tour. Some of Hazet is old school.

 

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The forging process doesn’t lend itself to straight pieces. They have a guy who straightens them out by eye. Very interesting multi-part factory tour. Some of Hazet is old school.

I found the problem, hes wearing eye glasses! I don’t know about anyone else, but when I am doing precision work, I always try to wear my contacts instead of my glasses. The peripheral distortion of glasses lens really makes it difficult to judge straightness (without a reference object). I’m half joking, but honestly I’m sitting here wearing my glasses right now and I do not feel adept to straighten wrenches because of it.
 
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I will confess I had to look up just what the heck these Canary tools were for! Worth buying?

If your a weirdo like myself, and buy tools you often don't need, they come shipped in cardboard boxes.

If you don't want to damage what's inside, these seem to do the trick better then normal utility knife and are very durable, so you can buy less knife blades and more tools (that you probably didn't need). :ROFLMAO:
 

Steel_Rain

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We use the Oetiker clamps all day in the "stepless" variant. For my application, its not about the clamp being low profile, but the stepless ones are able to complete 360 degrees of even clamp pressure. Typically clamps have a gap in the uniformity. That isnt an issue with softer thicker material like rubber hoses. But to clamp plastic hoses, you need that stepless feature or it is very prone to causing a leak where the plastic sort of bunches up and lifts away.

May I ask what industry? Automotive? These are used in just about every car coming out of the EU these days and I'll invest in @Monte fancy compound action set if there is value / +workmanship advantages. Most of the stuff in my application is light duty air pressure, so PCV hoses, EVAP hoses or general breather / emissions ****, not straight pressured high volume fluids.

I have the Knipex 10 99 I220 now:

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Beerhippie

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May I ask what industry? Automotive? These are used in just about every car coming out of the EU these days and I'll invest in @Monte fancy compound action set if there is value / +workmanship advantages. Most of the stuff in my application is light duty air pressure, so PCV hoses, EVAP hoses or general breather / emissions ****, not straight pressured high volume fluids.

I have the Knipex 10 99 I220 now:

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Stepless Oetiker clamps are my go-to tubing clamp in the brewery/pub.

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Look closely and see how many Oetikers you can count in that picture--and that's just the draught beer closet!

I use 'em a lot on my vehicles, too.

I use a Sharkbite brand compound crimper for most of them. It has a stop to prevent over-tightening the clamps. I've had Oetikers fail from over tightening when using end-nippers to tighten them.

Those right-angle crimpers seem like they'd come in right handy for installing Oetikers in places where you'll never be able to remove them ;)
 

BobsYourUncle69

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Thank you , I'll try one and see how it feels to use.

I have to say , the Gedore set I got is growing on me , while the handle isn't as nice as I was used to , I'm able to easily get a firm grip and apply a fair amount of torqe due to the fact that it fits very well when applying the torque , the handle fits well on my hand too. So ill use these for a bit and buy singles from some that I've short listed based on the suggestions here.

I'm starting to like the Gedores( the person who replied that said they'd grow on me earlier was right ) , particularly the PH2, it's fit is very precise.

Maybe they do know better than I do about what I need from a handle , let's see. Holding them vs actually using them , is quite a different experience vs others you can tell when you hold them the handle just doesn't cut it. If this makes sense.

A couple of new arrivals in my journey to find a screw driver I like.

-Wiha 8.5 piece 85th anniversary set - I like the tips on these but I don't know about the handles yet, I used it for just one screw so probably not a guage but I think the Gedore might feel a bit better.

-NOS Wiha flat head long screw driver. I thought I was getting the shorter version but this is what arrived. I'm not going to whine about as next I was going to purchase long screw drivers anyway(pic from the ad and actual item I received ) . That handle was like a familiar old friend who I haven't seen in years.
 

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Knockoffs of the Leatherman Raptor.

I normally don't buy knockoffs, but I was curious about the Raptor--but couldn't see dropping almost $100 on one (when they first came out, they were around $70). If I were in EMS, I'd never buy the knockoff, ever.

They are fussy to lock open and the strap cutter is dull as can be, and for $17.99 I know they aren't 420HC despite the directions saying so.
They do cut well, however--and surprisingly, the ring cutter can cut rebar tie wire without damage.

So yes, they'll at least see use until I buy the Raptor called for by next month's budget. I'll try to use my diamond needle file to get a decent edge on that strap cutter for twine, tape, and paracord.

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A bit bulky folded up.

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The cheap Fiskars folding "travel scissors" are actually better for most of what calls for scissors. Plus, I can carry them in my pocket all day and not notice them.

Less than $10 (I think mine were $6-ish) almost everywhere and really good quality.

 

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I bought a cheap laptop battery for my secondhand Dell Latitude 5290 2-in-1.

It included a small tool set with it.

T6, PH00, and a pick-type spudger.

The screwdrivers were too small (I used a Wiha PH0), but actually nice quality. The spudger is sturdy, and got the back of the case off without a problem. I printed off two pry tools in PETG last week, and managed to lose them both....

I'll keep the T6 in my EDC box as a number of my knives have T6 screws in them. My Spyderco Ladybug/Manbug/Jester models use it for the pivots (which work themselves loose easily), and I think a few use it for the clip as well.

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moemc

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May I ask what industry? Automotive? These are used in just about every car coming out of the EU these days and I'll invest in @Monte fancy compound action set if there is value / +workmanship advantages. Most of the stuff in my application is light duty air pressure, so PCV hoses, EVAP hoses or general breather / emissions ****, not straight pressured high volume fluids.

I have the Knipex 10 99 I220 now:

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That is the same Knipex unit I have been using all these years. I read the reviews on the compound ones, and people are saying they are not easier... I guess they don't feel the additional leverage. Looking at the design, the offset isn't very great so I guess it doesn't look like they add a ton of leverage but without measuring things up its hard to say. I must admit they are not particularly difficult to compress anyway, so I am not sure my appeal to add the compound set other than just adding some variety in the every-day.

I use the clamps for nylon and/or ptfe submersible (in-tank) high pressure fuel lines.
 

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terrific

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I like these:
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Made by PEC. Much smaller than pictured. The blades are skinny so that they can fit into bolt holes, though probably not enough for the really fine threads. I'm pretty sure Mitutoyo rebadges them.
The metric set is a little less alien-looking.
 

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The downside to that configuration is that, if you have some device/gizmo/stationary object that you want to check, you can't. I've used this set for years.

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I have a couple of different thread checkers, including that plate style one mentioned a few posts up, but I also have that ball-style thread thread detective shown above and they are hands down my favorite... I'm not sure they are still available to purchase though.
 

Stubby1743

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I received this Astro Pneumatic bit set yesterday. COO is stated as Taiwan. The bits and accessories are all pretty generic.

This exact same set is available under various brand names and in either a red or blue blow moulded case.

Time will tell what the quality of the bits is like, but I will most likely swap out some of the most common for "better" quality ones. I didn't really need any more bits as I have got hundreds, but I wanted a single case to house most types.

I paid £9 including VAT and postage which is less than what a lot of the same sets sell for.
 

F-22

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Knockoffs of the Leatherman Raptor.

I normally don't buy knockoffs, but I was curious about the Raptor--but couldn't see dropping almost $100 on one (when they first came out, they were around $70). If I were in EMS, I'd never buy the knockoff, ever.

They are fussy to lock open and the strap cutter is dull as can be, and for $17.99 I know they aren't 420HC despite the directions saying so.
They do cut well, however--and surprisingly, the ring cutter can cut rebar tie wire without damage.

So yes, they'll at least see use until I buy the Raptor called for by next month's budget. I'll try to use my diamond needle file to get a decent edge on that strap cutter for twine, tape, and paracord.

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A bit bulky folded up.

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The cheap Fiskars folding "travel scissors" are actually better for most of what calls for scissors. Plus, I can carry them in my pocket all day and not notice them.

Less than $10 (I think mine were $6-ish) almost everywhere and really good quality.

I got the same knock off raptors for 3 years. Also got it very cheap on aliexpress. I bought them to hopefully never use them. In my country you are required to carry a first aid kit (also must not be older than 5 years) in a road legal car. The supplied scissors in those are always very bad. These are beefy enough to cut through leather in a pinch.

Getting the clothing off fast in an accident can save lives and I'd much rather have decent scissors with me in such a scenario than anything else, bandages can be made from clothing...
 

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I'm going to see how much my 1/4" Dewalt impact driver can take :cool:

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A caution on these: 1/4 hex is really not up to the torque that you can need on stuck fasteners using 1/2" drive sockets or even 3/8" drive sockets. I have found these type of adapters twist up like a pretzel regardless of brand if you use them on a stronger impact and hammer. When they deform and/or break, they can get get stuck in the hex bit chuck and can be a big pain to extract. I gave up trying to find a strong enough version (I doubt it is possible ... 1/4 hex steel is just not strong enough or brittle if very tempered) and bought a battery-powered 3/8" anvil impact driver for automotive work. That ended the problem. I can use the 3/8 anvil with a 3/8 to 1/2" adapter (these are strong enough) or even a 3.8" square to hex adapter to use ordinary hex shank bits (I do not do this much since I have a 1/4 hex impact driver for screws etc ... but do so when I need another driver at the same time if someone is helping me) on the 3/8 impact.
 
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lund

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The downside to that configuration is that, if you have some device/gizmo/stationary object that you want to check, you can't. I've used this set for years.

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I use something similar too and agree it is overall pretty good. However, the cable still can get in the way of some applications. I am tempted to cut the cable off and put them in a small plastic organizer. The cable is great for compactly keeping them together. But it gets in the way for use. I hang my version near my taps, dies, and drills. They are cheap enough where it might make sense to buy two and disconnect one for when the cable gets in the way. As some have pointed out you can buy these in an organized plastic storage box for a little more $. But that would also be easy to make in the form wanted (standard, metric, large/small etc).

I think the other style where everything is mounted to a plate works ok for hardware store like applications where you check a removed nut or bolt, but not so well in typical uses where you want to check threads on stuff that you are not fully disassembling.
 
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Ohio Andy

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The downside to that configuration is that, if you have some device/gizmo/stationary object that you want to check, you can't. I've used this set for years.

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I have one of those and I used it for a long time. I eventually replaced it, not that I got rid of it. It bought something that said case is easier to haul around. I specifically bought this one That is no longer available


A totally different brand that I've never tried. That is more expensive than what I bought but similar makeup


They list the sizes and thread in the top so when you open it he can quickly see where things are that you want. And since I have both I usually grab the one in the case. But I used one that dangle from an out for many years before I bought the other
 

LanceMc

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Thanks for the warning. I'm just kidding. I'm very much a "use the right tool for the job" kinda guy. I have a very nice 1/2" Dewalt impact I use for most things. A nice 3/8" impact is on my wish list.
A caution on these: 1/4 hex is really not up tot he torque that you can need on stuck 1/2" drive sockets or even 3/8" drive. I found these type of things twist up like a pretzel regardless of brand if you use them on a stronger impact and hammer. In that process they can deform and get stuck in the chuck and can be a pain to extract. I gave up trying to find a strong enough version (I doubt possible) and bought a 3/8" anvil battery impact for automotive work. That ended the problem. I can use that with a 3/8 to 1/2" adapter or a hex adapter (I do not do this much since I have a 1/4 hex impact driver for screws etc ... but when I might need another) .
 
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