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I do like the satin finish, I think more than the full polished. Easier to see the size stamping. Easier on the eyes. I think I am going to round out my deep 1/4 metric set with some Koken singles. They are on sale at Palma.



The Koken set skipped 16, 18, and 20. Are these sizes not used much in the trade? I’m diy and work on my Jaguar and a 4Runner. More on the Jag than the 4Runner if you can believe it.

Griff



20mm is definitely not a size you will come across too often but 18 is a size that I have used on occasion on european cars. 16mm is equal to 5/8 and is a common spark plug size.


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I was setting up my weight distribution hitch last weekend and one of the bolts is a 5/8” square drive that I used an open end wrench on and didn’t get much torque on it. That combined with the fact that it took forever to turn are unacceptable to someone who looks for any excuse for a new tool.

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And I already had to make an improvement, 5 seconds work with the paint pen and it’s easy read.

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I got the Klassen Mfg HF belt sander to Milwaukee cut off tool adapter and installed it today. I like it so far. I had forgotten that the cut off tool is a single non-adjustable speed and using this belt sander attachment with a variable speed would give it some more utility.


I also picked up a yellow Trusty Cook 47 oz ball peen deadblow.
 

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Snap-On SOEXRM717

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Hi designer485 or anyone else,

I have heard that these recent model Snap-on ratcheting wrenches have the
thinest ratcheting box end profile in the business.

Do they offer a significant advantage over the Proto USA spline or
SK X-Frame ratcheting wrenches in terms of tight space auto mechanic work?

Thanks,

Dave
 

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I got the Klassen Mfg HF belt sander to Milwaukee cut off tool adapter and installed it today. I like it so far. I had forgotten that the cut off tool is a single non-adjustable speed and using this belt sander attachment with a variable speed would give it some more utility.


I also picked up a yellow Trusty Cook 47 oz ball peen deadblow.

I like the belt sander conversion, love to hear how it works for you.
 

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Snap-On SOEXRM717

Hi designer485 or anyone else,

I have heard that these recent model Snap-on ratcheting wrenches have the
thinest ratcheting box end profile in the business.

Do they offer a significant advantage over the Proto USA spline or
SK X-Frame ratcheting wrenches in terms of tight space auto mechanic work?

Thanks,

Dave

SO is just slightly smaller, but not much....I like the Proto for the recessed and bigger direction lever, the SO sits proud and is a bit small. I am not a huge fan of the spline, and the Proto has had some weird binding on some....I got a killer deal on the SO set though, hence why I have them. The SK is just sooooo smoooth!:pimpflash

All 15mm, from left to right, SO, Proto, SK
SO 9.25mm
Proto 9.5mm
SK 9.67mm
 

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SO is just slightly smaller, but not much....I like the Proto for the recessed and bigger direction lever, the SO sits proud and is a bit small. I am not a huge fan of the spline, and the Proto has had some weird binding on some....I got a killer deal on the SO set though, hence why I have them. The SK is just sooooo smoooth!:pimpflash

All 15mm, from left to right, SO, Proto, SK
SO 9.25mm
Proto 9.5mm
SK 9.67mm

Hi Buckgnarly,

Thanks for sharing the great information.

Which metric Proto wrench sizes do you own have binded during use?

Have you tried to resolve the binding issue on your own (ex: dipping the box end of the wrench in ATF) or thru SBD warranty exchange?

Thanks,

Dave
 

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A few things that showed up this week:

First Off: a few more Ko-Ken High Performance tools of Convincing Quality in the form of 19, 21, & 22 mm thin wall protective lug nut sockets. They're really thin and the integrated extension is supposed to absorb the intact blows instead of the thin wall socket. It's not a torque stick. 1/4 drive metric semi deep sockets on a magnetic rail. Z Series 3/8 drive 21 & 22 six point sockets to round out my existing set. Wobble plus extension sets in 1/4 & 3/8 drive. I have to say that the raised knurled panels around the female square drive end might be the best thing since sliced bread. Great for finger spinning and keeps the extension from rolling. The shanks of the extensions are thinner than most other extensions. The sets also contain in between sizes not found in other sets. Lastly a 2726Z Zeal 1/4 drive flex head ratchet for when you need compactness.

Next up, a set of USAG ratcheting wrenches from 7-19 mm in their neat little wrench holder. The open ends seem a bit on the large side but, we'll give them a try to see how they perform.

Lastly, a Milwaukee 3/8 drive metric pack out set. This is truly a globally sourced kit. The ratchet comes from Taiwan, the sockets from China, Peoples Republic of, and the Pack Out case is made in Israel :wtf:
The black hard plastic tray lifts out for tool box placement and takes up minimum space. It's not flimsy like many socket trays. You get shallow & deep six point sockets in sizes 6-19 mm, two extensions, a u joint, and a beefy 90 tooth ratchet. I'm still undecided if I like the square socket bases but, time will tell. The pack out case combined with the black long term storage tray makes this kit perfect portability. :beer:
 

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Buckgnarly

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Hi Buckgnarly,

Thanks for sharing the great information.

Which metric Proto wrench sizes do you own have binded during use?

Have you tried to resolve the binding issue on your own (ex: dipping the box end of the wrench in ATF) or thru SBD warranty exchange?

Thanks,

Dave


I have the 6 to 19 set, got it from Zoro using one of their codes a while back. Pretty sure it was the 13 and 15 (maybe 10 too?) that binded, it just gets locked for a bit, then I flip the switch and it's good. To be honest, it does not do it enough to make me want to warranty it, I will if it locks up completely.
When I got them, I gave them a good overnight soaking in ATF...that made them a TINY bit smoother. Maybe I should not have!;)
 

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A few things that showed up this week:

First Off: a few more Ko-Ken High Performance tools of Convincing Quality in the form of 19, 21, & 22 mm thin wall protective lug nut sockets. They're really thin and the integrated extension is supposed to absorb the intact blows instead of the thin wall socket. It's not a torque stick. 1/4 drive metric semi deep sockets on a magnetic rail. Z Series 3/8 drive 21 & 22 six point sockets to round out my existing set. Wobble plus extension sets in 1/4 & 3/8 drive. I have to say that the raised knurled panels around the female square drive end might be the best thing since sliced bread. Great for finger spinning and keeps the extension from rolling. The shanks of the extensions are thinner than most other extensions. The sets also contain in between sizes not found in other sets. Lastly a 2726Z Zeal 1/4 drive flex head ratchet for when you need compactness.

Next up, a set of USAG ratcheting wrenches from 7-19 mm in their neat little wrench holder. The open ends seem a bit on the large side but, we'll give them a try to see how they perform.

Lastly, a Milwaukee 3/8 drive metric pack out set. This is truly a globally sourced kit. The ratchet comes from Taiwan, the sockets from China, Peoples Republic of, and the Pack Out case is made in Israel :wtf:
The black hard plastic tray lifts out for tool box placement and takes up minimum space. It's not flimsy like many socket trays. You get shallow & deep six point sockets in sizes 6-19 mm, two extensions, a u joint, and a beefy 90 tooth ratchet. I'm still undecided if I like the square socket bases but, time will tell. The pack out case combined with the black long term storage tray makes this kit perfect portability. :beer:

Those USAG ratcheting wrenches look exactly like the MAC ratcheting wrenches, down to the holders they come with...
 

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I have those keys in my Amazon basket, waiting for me to pull the trigger (maybe for Christmas) they look the same as the Facom but at half the price. Leave your opinion when you try them, maybe that will convince me.
 

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Another unexpected purchase to finish my garage addition. After my Porter-Cable roof nailer died, I went and bought a Bostitch.


I was going to buy a Metabo as I liked the framing nailer I just bought. But this had the option to add a vinyl siding adapter on it. Since I have to side my garage addition, it was the selling point.



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dede2897234

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A few things that showed up this week:

First Off: a few more Ko-Ken High Performance tools of Convincing Quality in the form of 19, 21, & 22 mm thin wall protective lug nut sockets. They're really thin and the integrated extension is supposed to absorb the intact blows instead of the thin wall socket. It's not a torque stick. 1/4 drive metric semi deep sockets on a magnetic rail. Z Series 3/8 drive 21 & 22 six point sockets to round out my existing set. Wobble plus extension sets in 1/4 & 3/8 drive. I have to say that the raised knurled panels around the female square drive end might be the best thing since sliced bread. Great for finger spinning and keeps the extension from rolling. The shanks of the extensions are thinner than most other extensions. The sets also contain in between sizes not found in other sets. Lastly a 2726Z Zeal 1/4 drive flex head ratchet for when you need compactness.

Next up, a set of USAG ratcheting wrenches from 7-19 mm in their neat little wrench holder. The open ends seem a bit on the large side but, we'll give them a try to see how they perform.

Lastly, a Milwaukee 3/8 drive metric pack out set. This is truly a globally sourced kit. The ratchet comes from Taiwan, the sockets from China, Peoples Republic of, and the Pack Out case is made in Israel :wtf:
The black hard plastic tray lifts out for tool box placement and takes up minimum space. It's not flimsy like many socket trays. You get shallow & deep six point sockets in sizes 6-19 mm, two extensions, a u joint, and a beefy 90 tooth ratchet. I'm still undecided if I like the square socket bases but, time will tell. The pack out case combined with the black long term storage tray makes this kit perfect portability. :beer:

Hi Fedwrench,

Great tool haul!

I'm digging your USAG ratcheting wrenches! Does it have the built-in ring stop to prevent the wrench from dropping thru a bolt while ratcheting?

Where did you buy them? Does this retailer currently have them on special?

Thanks,

Dave
 

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I got the Klassen Mfg HF belt sander to Milwaukee cut off tool adapter and installed it today. I like it so far. I had forgotten that the cut off tool is a single non-adjustable speed and using this belt sander attachment with a variable speed would give it some more utility.


I also picked up a yellow Trusty Cook 47 oz ball peen deadblow.

I'm lovin this file belt on the Milwaukee cordless
 

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Hi Fedwrench,

Great tool haul!

I'm digging your USAG ratcheting wrenches! Does it have the built-in ring stop to prevent the wrench from dropping thru a bolt while ratcheting?

Where did you buy them? Does this retailer currently have them on special?

Thanks,

Dave

Yes, the ratcheting box ends do have USAG's version of ring stop which is a thin wire. I picked them up on ebay.
 
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Hi Fedwrench,

Great tool haul!

I'm digging your USAG ratcheting wrenches! Does it have the built-in ring stop to prevent the wrench from dropping thru a bolt while ratcheting?

Where did you buy them? Does this retailer currently have them on special?

Thanks,

Dave

I will help answer part of your question, no they do not have a stop as I have the identical set made by FACOM, I have had it for a few years and love it. I purchased mine from Ultgar
 

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Thanks for clarifying, yes that is a new thing. My set is at least 5+ years old and does not have that feature. Learn something new every day, I love it

I have a set of WERA JOCKER wrenches with a similar feature but the Ones you listed have the advantage of being able to overcome the stop as it shows in the video and move on to a lower nut. Very innovative!
 
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Something old, and something new. Both are new-to-me! A 1940s Snap-On spinner handle TM-4-E, and a Malco Connext1 quick-change locking bit-holding screwdriver handle.

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I bought it to keep in my tool bag with my portable impact. That way if I run the all my batteries completely out, I can still have something to turn a bit with, lol.
 

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Something old, and something new. Both are new-to-me! A 1940s Snap-On spinner handle TM-4-E, and a Malco Connext1 quick-change locking bit-holding screwdriver handle.

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I like the locking bit holder idea. I have quite a few custom S-O Orange Hard Handle tools and I think I may have to make a locking bit holder now. Or maybe 2 because I already have a stubby handle that I've been trying to figure out what to make with it. :beer:
 

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And just that fast I am now the proud owner of the only Snap On Stubby Orange Hard Handle Locking Bit Driver. Already tested it out with a few nuts. I drilled the handle out about 0.020” smaller than the bit holder so it took a decent amount of pressing in the vise but it’s feeling solid.

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That looks great! Any clearance issues you can think of?

No, I made sure that when I pressed it the collar was all the way back and there is probably 1/32" of clearance between the collar and the handle. I wish it was a smaller bit holder but that's the only one I had laying around. The good part was the shaft that I pressed into the handle was around .395" at the largest point so it feels solid.
 

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And just that fast I am now the proud owner of the only Snap On Stubby Orange Hard Handle Locking Bit Driver. Already tested it out with a few nuts. I drilled the handle out about 0.020” smaller than the bit holder so it took a decent amount of pressing in the vise but it’s feeling solid.

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That stubby kinda reminded me of a scary incident.

I went rafting after the snow melt and got out to pee, scared the **** out of me when I saw my turtled pecker.

You need to sell that now or you'll think of my pecker.

I'll buy it cheap
lol
 

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That stubby kinda reminded me of a scary incident.

I went rafting after the snow melt and got out to pee, scared the **** out of me when I saw my turtled pecker.

You need to sell that now or you'll think of my pecker.

I'll buy it cheap
lol

Thanks for putting that absolutely horrifying image in my brain. :shocking:

I'm going to try 2 or 3 years of therapy first and if that doesn't work it's yours. :spit:
 

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And just that fast I am now the proud owner of the only Snap On Stubby Orange Hard Handle Locking Bit Driver. Already tested it out with a few nuts. I drilled the handle out about 0.020” smaller than the bit holder so it took a decent amount of pressing in the vise but it’s feeling solid.

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Sold! How much for snap on handle & locking collet?
 

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That stubby kinda reminded me of a scary incident.

I went rafting after the snow melt and got out to pee, scared the **** out of me when I saw my turtled pecker.

You need to sell that now or you'll think of my pecker.

I'll buy it cheap
lol
Maybe I could try that and use this? 00c07aa298a7844a5e19f5bcf6e8c30d.jpg

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Maybe I could try that and use this? 00c07aa298a7844a5e19f5bcf6e8c30d.jpg

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That is the exact same bit holder I used. Just drill the hole out to 3/8" put a lil chamfer on it to guide it in and put it in the bench vise.


It will **** if you use a S-O orange stubby because I won't have the only one in the world but it would be cool as well. lol :thumbup: :thumbup:
 

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That is the exact same bit holder I used. Just drill the hole out to 3/8" put a lil chamfer on it to guide it in and put it in the bench vise.





It will **** if you use a S-O orange stubby because I won't have the only one in the world but it would be cool as well. lol [emoji106] [emoji106]
I need to get a handle... I like green or red... black is fine as well.

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Took the handle off a Masterforce bit holder and pressed on a Snap On
 

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Added a few new things to my collection this week:

Milwauke M12 fuel 3/8 ratchet. Been wanting this ever since I bought my 1/2 mid torque impact (still my favorite tool).

Olsa Tools socket organizers to replace my Ernst twist-on socket rails.

Found this Proto 3/8" ratchet on ebay and scooped it up. Part number is 5249BL, not sure how old it is but it's very slim. Feels great.

Wera bottle opener to go along with my old USA Craftsman one.
 

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