To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Silent air compressor

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
Looking for a silent air compressor that can handle ~70psi and maybe 5cfm.

It's for a waste oil heater, so will need to run at night when I'm trying to sleep.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Citation

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 20, 2016
Messages
3,212
Location
Indy
I believe Jun-Air are based on refrigeration type compressors. I don't think you will find something that is quieter. CAT and similar brands may be quiet enough but if this is something that you expect to last for many years I would feel better about a Jun-Air than a oil free CAT compressor.
 

Firebrick43

Well-known member
Joined
May 12, 2015
Messages
13,992
Location
West central Indiana
Seems quite loud.


Videos, especially cell, phone videos can be quite misleading.

I am not finding a 12-50 but 12-40(60decibles)or a 18-40(50decibles).

60 decibels is a normal conversation, 50 moderate rain fall.

Cal air tools, another common brand has a 60 decibel rating for those continuous industrial models.

Build a cooled and insulated cabinet for the compressor or put it outside if that is to loud.
 
OP
S

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
Videos, especially cell, phone videos can be quite misleading.

I am not finding a 12-50 but 12-40(60decibles)or a 18-40(50decibles).

60 decibels is a normal conversation, 50 moderate rain fall.

Cal air tools, another common brand has a 60 decibel rating for those continuous industrial models.

Build a cooled and insulated cabinet for the compressor or put it outside if that is to loud.
Thinking about it, but in the warmth is better. I used to have a 60 gallon out in my shed, it would trip the breaker when it was -20*
 

GeoBruin

Well-known member
Joined
May 5, 2018
Messages
3,733
I believe Jun-Air are based on refrigeration type compressors. I don't think you will find something that is quieter. CAT and similar brands may be quiet enough but if this is something that you expect to last for many years I would feel better about a Jun-Air than a oil free CAT compressor.
Jun-Air is a brand. They offer many oil lubed and oil free compressors. That said, I think what many people think about when they see/hear Jun-Air are their small, oil-lubed compressors which are indeed, very quiet. That said, they have pretty low output and are outrageously expensive.

The OP didn't say how much air they need or how much they are willing to spend, so we probably need a little more info to work with.
 

Firebrick43

Well-known member
Joined
May 12, 2015
Messages
13,992
Location
West central Indiana
Thinking about it, but in the warmth is better. I used to have a 60 gallon out in my shed, it would trip the breaker when it was -20*
Again enclose it and insulate. Just make the air circulation so it can be blocked off on the winter and place an 120v oil pan heater on it.

But you can always build a small enclosure inside.
 
OP
S

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
Again enclose it and insulate. Just make the air circulation so it can be blocked off on the winter and place an 120v oil pan heater on it.
That'd be expensive to run. Even a small 500w one would be $70 a month, which is more than my usual bill.
 

Firebrick43

Well-known member
Joined
May 12, 2015
Messages
13,992
Location
West central Indiana
That'd be expensive to run. Even a small 500w one would be $70 a month, which is more than my usual bill.
500 w heater is gargantuan for a pump on and air compressor, especially one in an insulated enclosure as the pump running is going to make some heat. And the insulation retains it. A 25 watt heater would be sufficient.


A thermostatic outlet in the enclosure would only turn it on if inside of the enclosure fell below freezing.
 

ching0n

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 21, 2016
Messages
1,496
the oxygen concentrator pump based ones may be the ticket. The jun-air and others based on fridge units are spendy (unless you diy w/fridge units).

California air perhaps has what you need (look for dental units, some have soundproof cabs). HF has a quiet 26 gallon @ 70db



A tip, much silencing can be achieved by swapping the inlet muffler:

 
Last edited:

mike93lx

ALLIANCE MEMBER
Joined
Dec 9, 2013
Messages
37,403
Location
Richmond, VA
Wow, thats a lot more air and much higher pressure than I would have guessed.

Any way to do it with a blower or is 70psi critical?
 

GeoBruin

Well-known member
Joined
May 5, 2018
Messages
3,733
Sure did...

"can handle ~70psi and maybe 5cfm."
Sorry, I swear I checked and I saw the 70 psi but didn't see the flow specified.

Anyhow, can we assume you don't want to spend $5,000+ on a Jun-Air? If not, there are lots of little oilless compressors that will make around 5 cfm that are rated at or under 70 db. On the cheaper end is this harbor freight fortress compressor. There's a coupon for $40 off right now making it even cheaper.

As ching mentioned above, there are several California Air Tools 2HP models that will make 5cfm for between $400 and $500, depending on the tank size/material you want.

Is this quiet enough?
 
Last edited:
OP
S

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
Sorry, I swear I checked and I saw the 70 psi but didn't see the flow specified.

Anyhow, can we assume you don't want to spend $5,000+ on a Jun-Air? If not, there are lots of little oilless compressors that will make around 5 cfm that are rated at or under 70 db. On the cheaper end is this harbor freight fortress compressor. There's a coupon for $40 off right now making it even cheaper.

As ching mentioned above, there are several California Air Tools 2HP models that will make 5cfm for between $400 and $500, depending on the tank size/material you want.

Is this quiet enough?

Sort of looking at a scroll compressor.

Haven't decided if I want to do a little compressor for the boiler and the loud piston compressor I already have for shop air or a scroll for everything.

Around $3000 to my door, so not cheap.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

GeoBruin

Well-known member
Joined
May 5, 2018
Messages
3,733
Sort of looking at a scroll compressor.

Haven't decided if I want to do a little compressor for the boiler and the loud piston compressor I already have for shop air or a scroll for everything.

Around $3000 to my door, so not cheap.
Haha, that's a whole different thread topic!
 

Citation

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 20, 2016
Messages
3,212
Location
Indy
Does this thing need 5 cfm continuously? I mean that would likely need 1000W continuously or $1000+ of electricity per year.
 

mike93lx

ALLIANCE MEMBER
Joined
Dec 9, 2013
Messages
37,403
Location
Richmond, VA
When the boiler is running, so 10-12hrs a day when it's cold.
Wow. That's going to be expensive to run but guessing cheaper overall than something like propane.

Curious, how many gpm are you putting through the burner?
 
Last edited:

ching0n

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 21, 2016
Messages
1,496
Does this thing need 5 cfm continuously? I mean that would likely need 1000W continuously or $1000+ of electricity per year.
Yeah, I don't know if any of the above will like 100% duty cycle. Some of those twin cylinder belt driven ones can be fairly quiet and likely OK for continuous being oil filled.

This thing's just got a muffler attached to it

looks like the ticket is bigger "low rpm pump" and muffler:


claims 62db:

 

Citation

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 20, 2016
Messages
3,212
Location
Indy
Yeah, I don't know if any of the above will like 100% duty cycle. Some of those twin cylinder belt driven ones can be fairly quiet and likely OK for continuous being oil filled.

This thing's just got a muffler attached to it

looks like the ticket is bigger "low rpm pump" and muffler:


claims 62db:

If you look at the manual for the emax you can see how the muffler box is made. Nothing special other than they actually did it. A DIY option wouldn't be hard for someone who can cobble together a plywood box. The lower RPM does help but I think the biggest impact is simply creating what amounts to an intake muffler. Most compressors just don't bother.
 

ching0n

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 21, 2016
Messages
1,496
If you look at the manual for the emax you can see how the muffler box is made. Nothing special other than they actually did it. A DIY option wouldn't be hard for someone who can cobble together a plywood box. The lower RPM does help but I think the biggest impact is simply creating what amounts to an intake muffler. Most compressors just don't bother.
yup. I do think reducing RPM while oversizing the pump in order to hit your CFM target is also a good strategy. HF has a 1k rpm pump head so makes me wonder :unsure:. They also have a 75db vtwin compressor but pretty much every big box store does.

The flexzilla silencer....a fair bit simpler than a glass packed car muffler.
1692479343124.png

this guy used a car air box:
 
Last edited:
OP
S

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
Kind of leaning toward putting the compressor in an insulated cabinet with a bulb on a thermostat for heat.
 

PCustoms

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
22,360
Location
VT
It's what blasts the oil into the burn chamber.
No suggestions on a compressor and excuse my ignorance on waste oil burners.

Why can't you use a liquid pump to pressurize the oil and atomize through a nozzle like a typical burner?
 
OP
S

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
No suggestions on a compressor and excuse my ignorance on waste oil burners.

Why can't you use a liquid pump to pressurize the oil and atomize through a nozzle like a typical burner?
Dunno, they don't work like that to my knowledge.

Some have built in compressors, many don't.
 

seber

Well-known member
Joined
May 31, 2016
Messages
4,193
Location
Deep East Tx.
No suggestions on a compressor and excuse my ignorance on waste oil burners.

Why can't you use a liquid pump to pressurize the oil and atomize through a nozzle like a typical burner?
I believe waste oil needs a lot more air than just ambient in order to get any real heat.
 
OP
S

Sumboodie

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 20, 2021
Messages
10,660
Location
AK
I got a California Air Tools unit.

Apparently it's only like 2-3cfm at 40ish psi needed. I was given wrong info.
 

LEGIN27

New member
Joined
Feb 7, 2024
Messages
1
Hello everyone. I wish to introduce myself here at the Garage Journal Forums. I'm Nigel/LEGIN27. I'm a part time graphic artist who has been painting drawing since I was a kid. And airbrushing off and on for over 30yrs. Last year 2023 I began dusting off my airbrush equipment and purchasing some new airbrush equipment to start back airbrush painting and that has gone surprisingly well. I have vast knowledge of airbrush painting, airbrush equipment to include airbrush types, brand types, compressors, primarily silent compressor for which I own a few. I'm also the author of a few online JUN-AIR compressor videos. One of which is listed in this thread posted last year as part of the spoken topic in this thread. Anyway....HELLLLOOO EVERYONE!!! I look forward to chopping it up with guys and gals.


unnamed(1).jpg
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom