Silly question time ......

[Davec61]

Hi Gang,

I'm going to build a small 16 foot wide and 10 foot deep shed along the fence in the back yard.

My first question is about the slope for the roof - I want the front of the shed to be 9 feet high and the back wall to be 8 feet high.
So that would give me a 1 foot slope over the 10 foot depth ........

For framing all four walls up, is it cheaper/easier to just buy standard 92 5/8 studs and build all four walls on the 8 foot mark for the
whole thing and then add on a 1 foot pony wall on top of the front 16 foot wall?
Then run the roof joists down as normal and build in the sloped gable ends on each of the 10 foot side walls as fill in pieces too.

OR frame up the front wall to the 9 foot height with longer studs and also the two side walls with the studs to match the slope as well?

I think pony wall will be faster and easier to do - what do you think?

I'm just costing it out now so no biggie ......

Cheers'
Dave

 

[cgrutt]

I'd consider framing everything at 8' and run a 2x8 or 2x10 on end down center and pitch roof front and back. 8' may give you better options as far as siding and materials and approx 6" rise in center will provide same slope as 12" on one side so a 2x8 or better will actually provide more pitch.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Just want to clarify, you're doing a shed roof and not a typical gable roof ?

Me, doing a shed roof would probably build an front 9" wall and back 8" wall. Side walls 8' and fill the gap when you build the rafters.

 

[PCustoms]

Buy 10' studs and cut down appropriately.

If you need to nickel and dime this do the math out on studs needed vs. studs+pony wall.

The pony wall is more work imho

 

[mike93lx]

No way would I frame a wall and then put a pony wall on top. Frame it with continuous studs.

Your 1.2:12 pitch is very shallow. Make sure your roofing material is rated for it and your framing is stout

 

[lolaetype]

I think pony wall will be faster and easier to do - what do you think?

Do a material take-off for both options. I suspect the pony wall option will result in less wasted lumber when cuts are taken into account.

 

[Bert_]

Id shoot for at least 2:12 pitch. Maybe more depending on what you put on for a roof.

Don't put a hinge in the wall, the studs should be continuous.

 

[PCustoms]

Your 1.2:12 pitch is very shallow. Make sure your roofing material is rated for it and your framing is stout

8' wall on one side, 10' wall on the other.

Fast to frame, little waste and better pitch.

 

[nadogail]

Quicker and Easier, IMHO, would be to build both the front and side walls 10' and the back wall to 8', set a line and trim the side waljs to match the slope.

You will generate some cutoffs that can be used for blocking or firewood.

 

[billconner]

Zoning allow you to put this on lot line? Depends where you live if course.

 

[MushCreek]

Yes, check to make sure what you want to do is OK with your local building authorities. In some places you can put it right on the line of it has no permanent foundation. Where I am, there's a 5' minimum setback for a small shed. As for the roof, I would never build a roof that flat. I always build sheds with a regular gable roof, and put a hatch in one end so I can slide long stuff in like pipe or lumber storage. My little 8X12 has a 6/12 roof pitch, giving me a 2' tall 'attic'. I built my walls out of 8' 2X4's, made little trusses out of 2x4's, put purlins running lengthwise, and put a tin roof directly on them without roof sheathing. It's a sturdy, dry little shed.

 

[billconner]

Yes, the 5' set back from property lines is a fire issue. It assures a 10' separation of structures. Not just zoning.

 

[75gmck25]

Specific rules for sheds will differ based on location. It's been a while since I checked, but I think my local AHJ allows a one foot setback for a shed that is not on a permanent foundation.

One other tip for a small shed is to find a motion sensor floodlight with a solar charging panel and install it inside the shed (solar panel on the outside). Its really nice to pop open the doors and have bright light come on inside. I found the inexpensive solar flood lights from HD were unreliable and two failed in a few months. The ones I got from Lowes seem to work really well.

 

[Davec61]

OK, well thanks for all the great advice there folks!!

So It looks like 9 foot on the front wall with full length studs, and I'll drop it down to 7 feet in the back along the fence to get a bit more
pitch on the roof as per your suggestions. I was gonna run Rino membrane and BP Mystique 42 shingles on top of the 7/16th OSB, however I might bring that back up to 8 feet if I go with tin roofing. I'm just snooping around for a deal for the cladding, so if I can get some I'll do the roof as well.

As for zoning ....yea, we won't go there ......

You guys might be able to explain this as well, up here in the great white north, I dunno what it is ... but holy **** is cladding pricey stuff.
I'm starting to learn why I see bush cabins covered in OSB and then a decorative cover of Tyvek forever! (grin)

I'm seeing an OK price of 11.00 a sheet for OSB then a slight jump up to 64.00 a sheet for LP Smartside and then up to $80 bucks for Plytanium, man that stuff pricy is up there. Hence the hunt for some cheap tin or something!?!?! I only need 14 sheets but yeeek!

OSB - $ 154 LP Smartside - $ 896 Plytanium - $ 1120

I might be able to score 20 sheets of 36' tin for $350! Here's hoping, do you have have any other suggestions for the exterior, I might snoop around for fence boards and that sort of thing as well, but I'm open to ideas.

Also how come pine trees are free in the States? Well not all of them but I sure do see a TON of folks trimming up the interiors with tongue and grove pine, up here its "only" $40 bucks for a 1x6 by 8 foot piece. What's are the prices like down south for that stuff?
Is it much less?

Cheers'
Dave

 

[Bert_]

The shed I pictured is covered with used tin. Mine was free I just had to spend a couple hours and take it off myself. On the roof I got most of the existing holes to line up with my new nailers, a few holes had to get caulked. I didn't worry about the existing holes on the wall sheets. They don't hurt anything.

I spent $170 in purchased material for a 8x12 shed.

 

[cgrutt]

OK, well thanks for all the great advice there folks!!

So It looks like 9 foot on the front wall with full length studs, and I'll drop it down to 7 feet in the back along the fence to get a bit more
pitch on the roof as per your suggestions. I was gonna run Rino membrane and BP Mystique 42 shingles on top of the 7/16th OSB, however I might bring that back up to 8 feet if I go with tin roofing. I'm just snooping around for a deal for the cladding, so if I can get some I'll do the roof as well.

As for zoning ....yea, we won't go there ......

You guys might be able to explain this as well, up here in the great white north, I dunno what it is ... but holy **** is cladding pricey stuff.
I'm starting to learn why I see bush cabins covered in OSB and then a decorative cover of Tyvek forever! (grin)

I'm seeing an OK price of 11.00 a sheet for OSB then a slight jump up to 64.00 a sheet for LP Smartside and then up to $80 bucks for Plytanium, man that stuff pricy is up there. Hence the hunt for some cheap tin or something!?!?! I only need 14 sheets but yeeek!

OSB - $ 154 LP Smartside - $ 896 Plytanium - $ 1120

I might be able to score 20 sheets of 36' tin for $350! Here's hoping, do you have have any other suggestions for the exterior, I might snoop around for fence boards and that sort of thing as well, but I'm open to ideas.

Also how come pine trees are free in the States? Well not all of them but I sure do see a TON of folks trimming up the interiors with tongue and grove pine, up here its "only" $40 bucks for a 1x6 by 8 foot piece. What's are the prices like down south for that stuff?
Is it much less?

Cheers'
Dave

You are probably just barely above absolute min pitch for asphalt shingles I'd go with metal given choice. If you do use shingles follow manufacturers instructions you may need additional underlayment, adhesives and/or enhanced nailing pattern with the relatively flat roof (2.4:12, right?).