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Simplest way to handle multiple ground in junction vox

When multiple Romex wires go in and out of junction boxes what is the is essiest way to handle the ground wires?

I have been using a wire nut and pigtail when needed to sort this out. Is there a wire nut that can be used that could twist a few wires together and have one ground come out the tip of the wire nut? Is it acceptable to drill the tip out of a properly sized wire nut so that one ground could pass through?

I saw a copper looking crimp that solved this in one of my junction boxes. I assume this is readily available at Home Depot?

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Although they can be a pita if you need to go back later...
 
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I have been using a wire nut and pigtail when needed to sort this out. Is there a wire nut that can be used that could twist a few wires together and have one ground come out the tip of the wire nut?
yes, it's called a greenie. big box stores stock them
Is it acceptable to drill the tip out of a properly sized wire nut so that one ground could pass through?

no, it violates the listing

I saw a copper looking crimp that solved this in one of my junction boxes. I assume this is readily available at Home Depot?
yes, and you will need the crimp tool.
 
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rockwithjason said:
I saw a copper looking crimp that solved this in one of my junction boxes. I assume this is readily available at Home Depot?
yes, and you will need the crimp tool.
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The copper ones from Buchanan require a spacial 4-way crimper. The steel ones from Ideal (and others) do not require any special crimper. A crimper for non-insulated terminals is all that's required.
 
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Very cool. Just don't need 100.

The crimp does seem like it would be a pain to undo.
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HD has 10 packs, and Lowe's has 50 packs. I just picked up a 50 pack a couple weeks ago. I've gone through about a third of them already, because none of the ground wires in my house have wire nuts at all...
 
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PT Doc said:
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The crimp does seem like it would be a pain to undo.
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Not all that bad, a good pair of dykes will cut off the splice cap leaving the wires intact, just a bit easier w/ copper then steel.
 
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Just an FYI/pulic service announcement...

When you make a typo in the title/first post you can fix it... as the OP you go to your first post and click on the Edit button...then click on "Go Advanced"...then edit the title int he title box...then Save.

Should work. Some Vbulletins are set up with edit limits, but I dont think here.
 
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I have been an electrician for 35 years+. I am the only I have ever known who uses the Buchanon crimp tool with the Buchanon sleeves. I find the four jaw makes a far superior crimp to all the other options IMHO. They can be removed with diagonal pliers as was previously mentioned. Other than that they are there forever.

They are a great option on multi gang boxes where you need more than 1 tail for more than one device. Crimp all the wires, leave as many tails as needed and cut the rest off. Takes minimal space in the box also.
 
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As mentioned in post#13 the Buchanan C 24 Press-Sure-Tool is the way to go, not cheap but makes a great crimp.
 
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alien said:
I have been an electrician for 35 years+. I am the only I have ever known who uses the Buchanon crimp tool with the Buchanon sleeves. I find the four jaw makes a far superior crimp to all the other options IMHO. They can be removed with diagonal pliers as was previously mentioned. Other than that they are there forever.

They are a great option on multi gang boxes where you need more than 1 tail for more than one device. Crimp all the wires, leave as many tails as needed and cut the rest off. Takes minimal space in the box also.
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off topic question for ya. I picked up a huge box of buchannon crimps, and the tool, at a yardsale for $5. it also came with a huge box of what look like flexible wire nuts, but there is no nut inside. I think they go over the crimp? if so, do you crimp over the rubber cover or slip it on once crimped? I tried crimping some antenna wire to see how they worked and the rubber caps were hard to install...just curious.
 
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off topic question for ya. I picked up a huge box of buchannon crimps, and the tool, at a yardsale for $5. it also came with a huge box of what look like flexible wire nuts, but there is no nut inside. I think they go over the crimp? if so, do you crimp over the rubber cover or slip it on once crimped? I tried crimping some antenna wire to see how they worked and the rubber caps were hard to install...just curious.
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Rubber diapers, have a couple of boxes of them, only used them once, instead of redoing a Stakon that the insulation was damaged, just slipped a rubber diaper on it.
 
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alien said:
I have been an electrician for 35 years+. I am the only I have ever known who uses the Buchanon crimp tool with the Buchanon sleeves. I find the four jaw makes a far superior crimp to all the other options IMHO. They can be removed with diagonal pliers as was previously mentioned. Other than that they are there forever.

They are a great option on multi gang boxes where you need more than 1 tail for more than one device. Crimp all the wires, leave as many tails as needed and cut the rest off. Takes minimal space in the box also.
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I have seen these crimps before, and always liked them as ground ties can sometimes be a real PITA. We use 4 pin crimps in aviation, and they work damn good.

It took a little bit of hunting to find the info, but finally I received my new Buchanan C24 crimper today. It is a crude version of the stuff we use in aviation, but just as effective. The guys that don't like crimps either don't use the proper tool, don't understand them, or have dealt with someone who didn't leave wires long enough for service work. The crimps are hands down far superior to any twisted on nut.
 
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