Snap-On 71-10 Ratchet question

[mrholeshot]

I recently aquired a Snap-On 71-10 ratchet. The date code shows 1946. The ratchet was pretty stiff and I noticed the plate screws were pretty loose so I tightened them down and it locked the ratchet up. I pulled the ratchet apart and cleaned 65 years of dried grease, gunk and rust out of the internals (not much rust) and lubed it up confident I had the problem solved. Still the same issue. I notice one of the plate screws is not the original but still works and the same length. I notice the original screw protudes through the plate and when I back it of flush the ratchet works fine. These were a bit before my time so I'm not real familiar with them. Did these have a gasket, shim between the housing and plate? The internals appear to be in good shape other than the selector is a little loose. The ratchet doesn't appear to have any damage to the body but it has me puzzled. I would really like to get this thing in nice working order. It's built like a tank. I don't want to ship it in for repair as they would prob just send me a new Dual80 instead of repairing it and it's doubful they have repair kits for ratchets from 1946.

 

[mrshaun]

picture and then I can tell you what is up with it.
the right screws make a difference for sure. if it will not turn with the screws tight then it might be the wrong gear in there.

 

[mrholeshot]

picture and then I can tell you what is up with it.
the right screws make a difference for sure. if it will not turn with the screws tight then it might be the wrong gear in there.

I'll post one up shortly, Thanks

 

[mrshaun]

some ratchets with the metal dust cap need to be slammed on the anvil of a vise to get them to fit properly. I hit the 1/2 drive of the gear down on the anvil and it seats the seal and dust cap properly. guys are shocked when I do that, but it works.

 

[trout]

the gear shouldn't stick up above the recessed edge of the housing
you could try flipping the plate over, is it possible it's bent?

 

[snapmom]

The 71-10 does not have a plate, but it does have a bushing, could be its worn out. If you need a bushing I may have one, so if the screw does not work, holler at me. Also if you cannot get a screw, I have some.

 

[mrholeshot]

 

[mrshaun]

i'd say screws were the problem if the plate is flat like some mentioned above.
find a rebuild kit and see if you can increase the teeth on that one.

 

[mrholeshot]

i'd say screws were the problem if the plate is flat like some mentioned above.
find a rebuild kit and see if you can increase the teeth on that one.

No matter what screws the plate should only go down but so far correct? The plate is flat (put it on a flat edge) and doesn't appear to be worn very bad. I'm wondering if it's been hit on the top and pushed in. The case is just so thick I have to wonder. I may just chuck it up and mill about .002 off the gear thrust side. It just seems like it should be loose if anything.

 

[mrholeshot]

 

[JSBriggs]

Yes, its a bushing.

-Jeff

 

[mrholeshot]

Thanks guys, I think I'll take the bushing out clean under it and drive it back in. In the photo I can see the bushing looks like it's not seated on one side. I couldn't see it with my eyes. Cool. I really like the old ratchet and want to use it. It's not pretty but it's still pretty cool.

 

[old salvage]

Off topic..
MrHoleshot, what program did you use to put comic strip text bubble in your jpg ?

 

[mrshaun]

it applies too much pressure down on the gear if you over tighten it. it has happened on the truck many times. then i beat it on the vise.

 

[mrholeshot]

Off topic..
MrHoleshot, what program did you use to put comic strip text bubble in your jpg ?

The one provided in photobucket under effects

 

[mrholeshot]

it applies too much pressure down on the gear if you over tighten it. it has happened on the truck many times. then i beat it on the vise.

Ill keep that in mind when I put it back together. I've never seen a cover plate as thick as this one looks like it's about .125 thick. Even with only one tooth engauged I can't see ever breaking a gear on one of these without the help of at least 3-4 feet of pipe.

 

[mrholeshot]

Again, Thanks for everyones help!

 

[old salvage]

The one provided in photobucket under effects

Didn't even know about that. Thank you.

 

[mrshaun]

it might be one that someone used a pile of parts to make 1.

 

[warmpancakes]

I have a 71-15 there are no rebuild parts from snap on

 

[mrholeshot]

Update, I seated the bushing in the body and put it back together, works like new. Snapmom is sending me some plate screws(thanks!) Now I need the 71-15 to match it,lol

 

[mrchuck]

I totally agree with MrHoleShot about the old SO ratchets. I use my old ones frequently.
I have drawers full of great ratchets and Snap On's are right there awaiting my pick when I need one.

 

[mrholeshot]

I totally agree with MrHoleShot about the old SO ratchets. I use my old ones frequently.
I have drawers full of great ratchets and Snap On's are right there awaiting my pick when I need one.

Whenever I hold an old tool like that especially old Snap-On I think about back in 1946 some guy walked off the tool truck and proudly put it in his box. I imagine what it has worked on, where it's been and is the original owner still alive. If they could only talk

 

[mrchuck]

Agree, because my Father in Law was "the Master tool Maker for North American Aviation during and after WW2". He finally retired in 1975.
He gave me all of his old tools, including the apron and name badge which was a "pecking order' and pay grade honor.
His Snap On ratchets were in this gift to me. And I use them!

 

[JeremyManning]

Just the sound they make when ratcheting is awesome compared to the new dual 80's

 

[4x4gearhead]

I love those old ratchets, always such coarse teeth, no wonder so many of them still work.

 

[stokiebouy]

Hi Snapmom,

I was doing some research on a recently acquired Snap On 71-10 to try to find some parts for it. The ratchet is in really well used condition (which makes it so cool) but it works just fine. Of the 2 screws that hold the head unit in place, one is missing, and the other one is well worn. I tried calling Snap-On customer service but they tell me that the repair kit for this ratchet was discontinued in 2007. I also tried my local hardware stores to no avail.

I saw in a post that you mentioned you might have some of these screws. If you do would it be possible to get a pair?

regards
Paul

 

[snapmom]

Yes, yes its possible. I sent you a private message.

 

[johninct]

What is the repair kit number for a Snap-On 71-15?

 

[hale1730]

The 71-15 rebuild kit is no longer available as of 4-20-22. This is what I did to keep my grandfather's ratchet in service. You can completely rebuild it and upgrade it to a 32 tooth gear. It will have to be converted to quick release though because the QR has a thicker top shoulder like the 71-15's gear. You have to call Snap-On and order the rebuild kit for a S713A 1/2" drive ratchet. It will doesn't come as one kit. You will receive a rebuild kit for a S711 ratchet and a separate quick release gear. The 32 tooth gear, included pawl, spring and ball insert, and selector lever go right in. You won't use the snap on logo plate and the screws are a tad shorter than the 71-15 screws. They will work if you don't have the original ones. I inherited my grandfather's non working 71-15. Snap on wanted me to send it in for a warranty replacement, HELL NO THANK YOU! I started messing around with my ratchet parts and came up with this solution. Now i can continue using grandpa's ratchet with a smoother action. I feel close to him every time I use it.