Snap-On 830 Vs Duralast 3/8

[oldtools]

Thanks for the test. I will definitely go check it out.

 

[mkirkpatrick]

mrholeshot,

I thank you, it helps that you back everything with fact. Thanks you very much.

Mike

 

[mrholeshot]

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[mrholeshot]

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[Mr.Nutcase]

Ok I told you I would do this so I hopped on the Goldwing and headed to town(72 degrees!!). I had the saleman at AutoZone meet me out front with my sale (called ahead of time) of a Duralast 3/8 Snap-On copy. First I would like to say my expectations wern't set to high and the price I thought was a bit steep for a Ratchet made in Tiwan. I got back home and reached in the saddlebag and grabed up my new $21.28 Duralast Ratchet and looket it over. It looks good and the Chrome looks like Nickel Chrome about like Snap-On uses. Overall it looked pretty good. I'd give it a solid 95 on a scale of 100 against the Snap-On.
The first thing I did was hook it up and yank down 200 ftlbs. It was a pass. I pulled it 6 more times in differant spots just to make sure. Thats cranking on a 3/8 ratchet. Don't let the photo below fool you, The ratchets are almost the same in size with the Duralast being a bit longer

Of course the Duralast is made in Tiawan

Here is the Plate veiw from both ratchets (The 830 was the closest I had on hand) very similar. The snap on is sealed the Duralast is not. The fitment is so good I don't see much dirst getting in.

As you can see the internals are very differant so nothing will interchange. The Duralast has a large floating pawl that appears to be very well made. The case is machined well. The gear is supported on one side(plate side) and the gear fits snug in the case. I would have liked to have seen support on the case side but it doesn't seem to have any affect on it's operation. The Snap-On pawl is small but the gear is supprted on both sides making it strong.

The gear on the Duralast is also a bit larger. Again it's the angle that makes the Snap-On gear look bigger.

The thickness of the ratchets are near identical

The handle end is a pretty good copy and comfortable as you would expect. Again the Duralast ratchet is about 3/8 of an inch longer in total length but I lined the handle up for comparison

So to wrap it up in my opinion and not have used this ratchet in a pro enviroment but being so familiar with them I'm confident when I say this (again I never expected this ratchet to pass) that it's more expensive than almost all Tiawan ratchets I've seen BUT that it exceeds the quality of most American Ratchets. I would take it over a MAC anyday or even Matco. I havent used a Cornwell in a while so I can't comment on those. At first I expected half *** quality with just a good warranty. In the end it's like buying a 36 tooth Snap-On at 1/5 the price. The Snap-On 36 tooth list for 100 dollars Duralast Lists 19.99. Is there 80 dollars differance? Hell no! This is an excellant ratchet and now having tested it I know it's a good ratchet as well. What I thought was a high price is now a bargin. Would I use it in a Pro enviroment, Absolutly with the greatest of confidence. I really thought I was going to be able to bash this ratchet but I have nothing but praise for it. If you get over the prestige of owning a Snap-On I would say this would be the next best choice and I have a lot of ratchting under my belt. Had it been a POS I would have taken it back to Autozone. I'm proud to add this one to my collection. My advice would be to buy it. I really like it.

That ratchet *****........................ really I have one......
Reason the the cover fell off........I had to grab my F720...(this was few years ago)

 

[Mr.Nutcase]

You should buy an 88 toother. I have both dual 80's and 88's and tend to favor the 88's more. BFR118T is a good one to start out with and its made in the USA .

http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2407&select=&page=2

the Matco are great........................

 

[HandyManny]

I have yet to purchase a Taiwanese tool that was a complete failure. Not sure what they do different but in my experience they absolutely seem to hold a higher standard of quality compared to stuff that comes out of various chinese factories. This is why i was so dissapointed in the GW switch and will be avoiding them from here on out.

If every US tool production company folded up shop i'd have zero issue with using taiwanese made hand tools.

I hate to admit it but I have to be honest. Taiwan surpassed the quality of many USA made tools a long time ago. I have been very impressed with the very few and newer Taiwan made tools I own. I've also used many Taiwan made tools that others have owned when helping them. I supported USA made tools all my life and can tell you that all tool makers have their hits and misses. Some are better at making certain tools than others, some should just stick to making what they make best, and not every tool that every maker makes is going to be top notch. Then there is the personal preference factor from the user too.

 

[mrholeshot]

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[HandyManny]

They are putting the chromium powder for making those ratchets down rivers in taiwan. And you want to promote their product?

You can't be in the tool making, steel making, mining, chemical, logging, or most any other productive business without polluting or causing some type of impact to the environment. I agree that we should do things as clean as possible with minimal waste, but it will never be 100% clean and pure. If that's your concern then go culture tofu for a living and try not to poop or pee.

 

[Mr.Nutcase]

I've had the cover fall off Snap-On ratchets. Sometimes the screws come out. I always put mine back together with a drop of Locktight. Sometimes they still come apart. Just because you don't maintain your ratchet doesn't mean it *****. The reason the Snap-On man carries kits, screws and lube on the trucks is even the best ratchets fail. If I only owned ratchets that never fail it's because they never or very rarely get used. Nobody builds a failure proof ratchet. If I said all the Snap-On ratchets I've have failed were **** I wouldn't own a single one.

I have a Snap-On 747 Swivel Head ratchet and I know it's had at least 20 Kits installed over the 10+ years I've owned it. I consider it one of the finest ratchets I own.

I did get the Duralast warrenty..... it *****... just save your reciept.....(I did)

 

[trackwelder]

How about them? Much of our domestic produce is harvested by folks in the country illegally, getting paid peanuts, and working under deplorable conditions. It's also typically heavily subsidized. The chances of staple or perishable crops being easily importable are pretty slim. About the only thing I see around here that comes from China on a regular basis are ginger and garlic. Even the dragonfruit is from a domestic source.

Take a look at the labor issues surrounding 2 buck chuck. It's produced domestically and it ain't a pretty sight.

Wait you mean the free visits to the er for a little sniffle and all the other programs they leech off of that are not available south of the border. My problem is with all the cheap americans buying this imported **** and then have the nerve to ***** that the taxes are to high, or they can't find a job. And before some says it yes I know that I am using an imported computer and watching a tv made in china, not much I can do about that. But I can buy a quality made in the USA ratchet with several to choose from.

As far as parts from auto zone the majority of the parts I have used or replaced are junk period. Buy what you want where you want I do.

 

[bw77]

The full polish Craftsman is 28 dollars and nowhere near the quality. Just mind blowing

Have you ever tested the Cman low profile 3/8 ratchet that sells for 32.99?

 

[HandyManny]

Wait you mean the free visits to the er for a little sniffle and all the other programs they leech off of that are not available south of the border. My problem is with all the cheap americans buying this imported **** and then have the nerve to ***** that the taxes are to high, or they can't find a job. And before some says it yes I know that I am using an imported computer and watching a tv made in china, not much I can do about that. But I can buy a quality made in the USA ratchet with several to choose from.

As far as parts from auto zone the majority of the parts I have used or replaced are junk period. Buy what you want where you want I do.

Purchasing USA made products is no guarentee that you are saving American jobs or supporting American citizens. Corporations will do what's best for them regardless of yours and my patriotism. Just know that it was never lack of demand for USA made products that caused corporations to outsource from overseas. It was tax incentives for the corporations, EPA regulations, and something that's our own damn fault - not wanting our own kids to become skilled tradesman or skilled laborers. Like it or not too many middle class Americans have become to comfortable and progressive to want to do a trade job or skilled technical blue collar job. Americans just don't want to get their hands dirty anymore. Stop importing goods?? Bring back all domestic manufacturing? Send back every illegal immigrant labor worker?? Not only would we not have the domestic workforce we need to get back on our feet, but most would need a crash course in skills. Hell, they don't even teach shop class or industrial arts in most American high schools anymore. Truthfully I think we'd largely **** at it for about the first 10 to 20 years or so. Yeah we marvel at the days when this country banded together after the attack on Pearl Harbor and tooled up to feed the military machine, well those days are gone. That was a whole different generation right there with a whole different set of values, principals, and skills, all forged during a much different time period. Most Americans just don't have the same grit the we once had as a society in the old days.

 

[mrholeshot]

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[bw77]

Yeah we marvel at the days when this country banded together after the attack on Pearl Harbor and tooled up to feed the military machine, well those days are gone. That was a whole different generation right there with a whole different set of values, principals, and skills, all forged during a much different time period. Most Americans just don't have the same grit the we once had as a society in the old days.

What you are saying here reminds me of an editorial I read just the other day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/opinion/12friedman.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage

"Who will tell the people? China and India have been catching up to America not only via cheap labor and currencies. They are catching us because they now have free markets like we do, education like we do, access to capital and technology like we do, but, most importantly, values like our Greatest Generation had. That is, a willingness to postpone gratification, invest for the future, work harder than the next guy and hold their kids to the highest expectations. "

 

[I can fix anything]

Who cares who made it or where it comes from. It was purchased from an american store that employs thousands of americans. This thread is about how good a ratchet is, not where it came from. Global trade is fact and yall need to get used to that.

 

[trackwelder]

Who cares who made it or where it comes from. It was purchased from an american store that employs thousands of americans. This thread is about how good a ratchet is, not where it came from. Global trade is fact and yall need to get used to that.

I do!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[csp]

Nope but I still will not buy one from autozone. If you like them fine but I feel the majority of the stuff sold there is garbage. I would rather buy oem

The last time I bought glow plugs for my Powerstroke I bought OEM Ford plugs from Autozone for a FRACTION of what the dealer wanted or what I could find on eBay.

Is that it? I mean, there are no qualitative benchmarks you use to determine what is ****, and what is not? It's just a matter of what store it came from?

Ignorance is bliss I guess Bull.

On another note, it is a shame that all these threads like this almost inevitably devolve into the same old hackneyed bickering.

It does get old. I'm surprised that mrholeshot keeps making the effort to inform, given the fact that every thread like this ends up beating the same dead horse. It's too bad that some just can't keep their comments which have no value whatsoever to themselves.

 

[trackwelder]

The last time I bought glow plugs for my Powerstroke I bought OEM Ford plugs from Autozone for a FRACTION of what the dealer wanted or what I could find on eBay.



Ignorance is bliss I guess Bull.



It does get old. I'm surprised that mrholeshot keeps making the effort to inform, given the fact that every thread like this ends up beating the same dead horse. It's too bad that some just can't keep their comments which have no value whatsoever to themselves.

Kind of like the value of your comments.

"Ignorance is bliss I guess Bull."

 

[blarf]

Wait you mean the free visits to the er for a little sniffle and all the other programs they leech off of that are not available south of the border. My problem is with all the cheap americans buying this imported **** and then have the nerve to ***** that the taxes are to high, or they can't find a job. And before some says it yes I know that I am using an imported computer and watching a tv made in china, not much I can do about that. But I can buy a quality made in the USA ratchet with several to choose from.

As far as parts from auto zone the majority of the parts I have used or replaced are junk period.

Seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Mexico#Affordability

They come all the away across the border to take care of their sniffles at an American ER? LOL. It's only in the US that primary care is prohibitively expensive. Besides, I'd worry a whole helluva lot more about the US citizens filing for bankruptcy over health care related costs (most US bankruptcy filings are due to health care costs) than I would about providing 'free' emergency care. But that's me.

As for your computer, you did have a choice. I've got a bunch of Apple stuff that was made in the US. But, as it turns out, that's expensive... too expensive for most people. Their market share has jumped considerably since they've moved their production to China. Thankfully, we're still left cleaning up the mess they left here -- Silicon Valley has the highest density of Superfund sites in the country (about 30 I think, more than half are from high tech manufacturing).

TVs were made in the US of A too, but consumers preferred the Chinese counterparts.

Buy what you want where you want I do.

What?

 

[blarf]

You can't be in the tool making, steel making, mining, chemical, logging, or most any other productive business without polluting or causing some type of impact to the environment. I agree that we should do things as clean as possible with minimal waste, but it will never be 100% clean and pure. If that's your concern then go culture tofu for a living and try not to poop or pee.

Try not to think about the havoc soy plantations are wreaking on the Amazon rainforest either.

 

[Hiball]

Let me first say that i happened to be on When this thread was originated. I came back a few hours later and it had Blown up. I expected to see all kinds of Carnage after seeing the Reply Count. I was pleasantly suprised not to see too much "Back and Forth" in the thread to be honest with you. Lets get a few things straight...

"The Snap-On 36 tooth list for 100 dollars Duralast Lists 19.99. Is there 80 dollars differance? Hell no! This is an excellant ratchet and now having tested it I know it's a good ratchet as well. What I thought was a high price is now a bargin. Would I use it in a Pro enviroment, Absolutly with the greatest of confidence. I really thought I was going to be able to bash this ratchet but I have nothing but praise for it. If you get over the prestige of owning a Snap-On I would say this would be the next best choice and I have a lot of ratchting under my belt. Had it been a POS I would have taken it back to Autozone. I'm proud to add this one to my collection. My advice would be to buy it. I really like it. "


While i Enjoy reading your tests MrHoleshot, And i can apreciate the time it takes to document what you did and explain how you came to your conclusions. I will be the first to admit, The testing methods are a bit vague and i think your results are a bit deceiving. IMO.. the true value of a ratchet is how much abuse it can Day in and Day out for Years... Not on just a Handfull of Torque tests. I mean you can buy a 3/8 Snap on ratchet for $80 bucks New and theoretically with Snap On's Front Door service Warranty its the last one your gonna have to buy. I have no idea how long the Duralast Ratchet will last, It has a Lifetime Warranty also but until i see some 40 year old Duralast Ratchets still ticking away im gonna have to go with the Proven Winner. Let me Say, i dont condemn all Import tools, ive owned some brands in the past that were quality units, Toptul comes to Mind. I can say after reading your Opinion, That it seems like your almost standing next to the Brush pile, with a Can of Gasoline just waiting for a spark. Again.. I can apreciate your time and the effort you put into your tests and i enjoy reading thru them, But... The Reasoning behind Snap On tool purchases isnt always based on "Prestige", Is that your opinion of Truck tools? You claim to own

" more Snap-On tools than the average tool man carries on his truck."

After all these years you have surely seen the differences first hand. I guess what im getting at is Warranties are Great, They offer the Buyer reassurance that there buying a quality tool. The Crazy thing is the 2 have nothing in common, Especially in todays world. If i have to hop in my truck and track down a Autozone in hopes for a New Replacement every time my Ratchet starts acting up, Im not gonna be happy. How much time/Gas do you think it would have cost you if you had to drive to a Autozone 20 times in 10 years for Warranty service on your Snappy roto head? My Main point is there are other factors that go into the Tool Purchases and its not just "Prestige".

 

[I can fix anything]

Hi-ball all of mine have been in action in a pro environment without failure for at least 4 years. It is not hard to track down an autozone. If it broke and you needed it right away you would have to wait on the snap man to come by. Also he may or may not have a kit on the truck. I have waited 2 weeks for a kit before. If you are in a "pro" shop Autozone will hand deliver a new tool and pick up the old one with just a phone call.

 

[trackwelder]

As for your computer, you did have a choice. I've got a bunch of Apple stuff that was made in the US. But, as it turns out, that's expensive... too expensive for most people. Their market share has jumped considerably since they've moved their production to China. Thankfully, we're still left cleaning up the mess they left here -- Silicon Valley has the highest density of Superfund sites in the country (about 30 I think, more than half are from high tech manufacturing).

TVs were made in the US of A too, but consumers preferred the Chinese counterparts

What choice? You just stated that the manufacturing is overseas.

 

[warmpancakes]

Hi-ball all of mine have been in action in a pro environment without failure for at least 4 years. It is not hard to track down an autozone. If it broke and you needed it right away you would have to wait on the snap man to come by. Also he may or may not have a kit on the truck. I have waited 2 weeks for a kit before. If you are in a "pro" shop Autozone will hand deliver a new tool and pick up the old one with just a phone call.

My snappy man was never more than a phone call away usually was there within 45 minutes tops too bad he retired and I moved jobs

 

[Hiball]

Hi-ball all of mine have been in action in a pro environment without failure for at least 4 years. It is not hard to track down an autozone. If it broke and you needed it right away you would have to wait on the snap man to come by. Also he may or may not have a kit on the truck. I have waited 2 weeks for a kit before. If you are in a "pro" shop Autozone will hand deliver a new tool and pick up the old one with just a phone call.

I dont have a AutoZone in my town, Thats beside the Point though. What im getting at is that there are many tool companies out there that provide Great Tool Values from the Import world.. No doubt in my mind. My post was aimed more at the "Prestige" comment, As Snap on Makes a Damn fine Tool that is based on many Years of Research and Development and has the "Professional" Usage Track Record to back it up. Not Everyone who purchases there tools do it for the "Prestige" There are things that matter to People outside Warranty and Price. We need to make sure here at GJ we respect both sides of the fence. BTW i recieved my ParX Ratchet.. Thanks again.

Steven

My snappy man was never more than a phone call away usually was there within 45 minutes tops too bad he retired and I moved jobs

Im sure there are variances at Certain locations where its hard to get a Snappy dealer to come by on during a Emergency. I know if i was in this location i would keep a spare kit on hand courtesy of My Dealer/Customer Service.

 

[Bull]

The thing is, Steve, no one on here besides mrholeshot and DavidB are conducting tests of tools. These guys are doing side-by-side comparisons that we can't get anywhere else. So, even if their methods might seem flawed to you, they're all we've got unless someone else steps up to the plate.

IMO, if a 3/8 ratchet holds up to 200 ft lbs multiple times, that says something about it's quality and potential longevity. Unless some of us have Sequoia arms, we aren't going to be pushing 3/8 ratchets that far in normal usage.

 

[Hiball]

The thing is, Steve, no one on here besides mrholeshot and DavidB are conducting tests of tools. These guys are doing side-by-side comparisons that we can't get anywhere else. So, even if their methods might seem flawed to you, they're all we've got unless someone else steps up to the plate..

Dont get me Wrong Dave.. As i stated i can apreciate the time they took to test the working Torque of the Ratchets, Along with sharing it with the Members. I never said there methods are "Flawed" I only concluded that there are more things involved in determining a Tools Worth and ability to hold up to Everyday use.

IMO, if a 3/8 ratchet holds up to 200 ft lbs multiple times, that says something about it's quality and potential longevity. Unless some of us have Sequoia arms, we aren't going to be pushing 3/8 ratchets that far in normal usage.

Not Necessarily... I may be able to Lift 8000lbs with a quality 2 ton Lincoln Floor jack, I may even be able to do it 10 times. Then a again.. it might rupture the Main Ram Cup the next time i go to lift 1 ton. Again.. I not criticizing the Test or the Results posted, Im only stating that there is a reason Snap on Tools are one of the best in the business, Its not because they concluded a Torque test and called it good. I own alot of Snap on Tools, I dont buy them to feel better about myself or better than anyone who swings HF tools. I buy based on whats important to "ME" and thats why i support American made tools. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion and they have the right to spend there money where they see fit.

 

[Bull]

Well, I guess that when you said the tests were "deceiving," I thought was another way of saying "flawed."

What is your position on Blue Point?

Also, we do have a member in this thread who reports he has used this line of tools for years in a professional environment, so we can't ignore that.

 

[shotgunfatcat]

I could easily lay into a ratchet with over 200 ft. Lbs. which is probably why all (3) my armstrong ratchets broke (stripped the main gear)! Everyone says armstrong has great ratchets yet 3 broke on me. From that point on I decided it wasn't worth breaking myself over cheaper tools. If I come off hard on some subjects it is because tools have broken on me, and I have gotten hurt from them.

Working in my free time on larger and older equipment, as well as doing almost any repair on my vehicles as well as family and friends, I come across stuck fasteners quite often and I will pull, if it doesn't break loose, I move up to 1/2 or heat it up. Not once has a snap-on ratchet broke free when I pulled, which equals no pain for me. And I like no pain.

I have never used a duralast ratchet, I don't need to buy one either. People changing their oil can use one all day long without issues, and as I said before in a pinch, I would buy a duralast tool if I needed it, they are of decent enough quality to get through a job or two.

When I worked at autozone, the duralast tools never really sold (which puts some thought in my head), so I didn't have to warranty them. And most people that bought them, it was a one time job. The tools that did sell were the great neck tools (cheaper version) and I can tell you right now those are junk, complete garbage, and have wasted a lot of my time buying them in a pinch.

If I come off strongly about snap-on, it is because they hold up to my abuse, and I don't hurt myself using them.

 

[Hiball]

Well, I guess that when you said the tests were "deceiving," I thought was another way of saying "flawed."

What is your position on Blue Point?

Also, we do have a member in this thread who reports he has used this line of tools for years in a professional environment, so we can't ignore that.

I apologize for my English/Typing skillz up front.. Im No match for a School teacher. LOL.... Wait a Minute... Deceiving has a entirely different meaning than does Flawed. (In my mind) Are you trying to trick me?

Hmm... My opinion of Blue Point? I really dont have any knowledge of the Newer Blue Point line, I suspect its Overpriced and you can find comparable Cheaper Import lines across the board. I guess you have to factor in whether the Service is worth the Price. I dont think we should ignore any Members contribution, Whether its popular or Not. This is a Public Forum and we have tons of members who join to get opinions on Tools etc, I dont know how many Pro's Use Duralast tools, Is he the only one? I dunno... I would have never even thought about purchasing a Ratchet at Autozone, I assumed it was a parking lot savior/throw-away. You Learn something New everyday.. Am i gonna buy one. Probably Not... Does that make me a Tool Snob? Too Good to swing a Import? Nope and Nope because there was a time when i had to use every avenue available to get the job done. Luckily.. I have a good job and the ability to pick and choose, I understand everyone doesnt have that option and anybody who follows GJ knows my stance on Tools. I will not Judge you.. and i expect the same in return.

I could easily lay into a ratchet with over 200 ft. Lbs. which is probably why all (3) my armstrong ratchets broke (stripped the main gear)! Everyone says armstrong has great ratchets yet 3 broke on me. From that point on I decided it wasn't worth breaking myself over cheaper tools. If I come off hard on some subjects it is because tools have broken on me, and I have gotten hurt from them.

Working in my free time on larger and older equipment, as well as doing almost any repair on my vehicles as well as family and friends, I come across stuck fasteners quite often and I will pull, if it doesn't break loose, I move up to 1/2 or heat it up. Not once has a snap-on ratchet broke free when I pulled, which equals no pain for me. And I like no pain.

Pssst... (In a whispering voice) Use a breaker Bar. LOL I know its easier to use a ratchet as ive been in the same position.

 

[Bull]

I apologize for my English/Typing skillz up front.. Im No match for a School teacher. LOL.... Wait a Minute... Deceiving has a entirely different meaning than does Flawed. (In my mind) Are you trying to trick me?

No trick; I don't play tricks on friends. Those words have different meanings, but in this case, if you think a test designed to show a ratchet's relative merits is "deceiving," then that means it must be flawed, because it isn't a reliable test. That unreliability would be it's flaw.

Anyway, you're a reasonable guy and I see where you are coming from. I for one just want the tests to continue.

 

[sselander]

where is that kill thread button

time to get back to business, and clear the air.

if you do not like something, change the channel

everyone has their own opinion

 

[Thumper]

Geeze......it's a rachet not a damn airplane. Mr.Holeshot went to the trouble to buy and test it on his dime. I respect that. He gave it a real world test.....it passed. Nobody ever said it would take the place of Snap-On or your favorite truck brand.

I have all brands of rachets ....Snap-On, Cornwell, Mac ,SK, etc. Hell I even have a Ace Hardware Professional 1/2 rachet.....tough as hell with lifetime warranty. I have a few Duralast wrenches and sockets and every one has performed flawlessly. I may just have to try a rachet and give it hell.

Right now it's still a free country...so buy what you like .

 

[mrholeshot]

My appologies to everyone for ever posting this thread. I promice I wont do it anymore

 

[caper]

Well coming from Canada I can't say I've been in many Autozone stores.In fact I was in one for the first time just this spring.I checked out the tools while I was there and had the impression they were typical taiwan import tools.Decent enough to get stuff done but I wasn't impressed enough to buy anything for daily professional use.I have lots of tools,from Snap on to HF.I'm not opposed to using cheap stuff if it works.My thoughts on the Duralast,and many of the cheap import brands sold at parts stores,is how good is that warranty?How many different brands has Autozone sold since they started selling tools?Are they still honoring warranties for brands they sold before Duralast?What's to stop Autozone,or any discount tool company,from just changing the lines of tools,discontinuing the brand and starting to sell something else,or nothing at all,if warranty claims get too high?One of the reasons I feel Snap on and other long standing companies are a better choice is the knowledge that the company isn't going to just disappear.I have had many different import brands over the years that are not available anymore.Kind of leaves you holding the bag.Just my 2cents.Mrholeshot,thanks for the testing,it's interesting and informative.

 

[Wakefield]

I enjoy the tool tests,even if the one I am rooting for doesn't win.

 

[1969]

mrholeshot...... I too am very pleased that you take the time to do these tests. Don't let a few people cause you to cease. Again, thank you.

 

[Hiball]

Geeze......it's a rachet not a damn airplane. Mr.Holeshot went to the trouble to buy and test it on his dime. I respect that. He gave it a real world test.....it passed. Nobody ever said it would take the place of Snap-On or your favorite truck brand.

I have all brands of rachets ....Snap-On, Cornwell, Mac ,SK, etc. Hell I even have a Ace Hardware Professional 1/2 rachet.....tough as hell with lifetime warranty. I have a few Duralast wrenches and sockets and every one has performed flawlessly. I may just have to try a rachet and give it hell.

Right now it's still a free country...so buy what you like .

As I stated (MANY times), I enjoy reading his threads. I only voiced my opinion on the comparison to Snap on in regards to Quality and Price. I can fully respect his thread and ill say it for the record if some of the members missed it. "I Steven Enjoy reading the Test threads here at Gj" Like i said in one of my threads i never would have thought that a Auto Zone ratchet was a quality piece, I learn something new everyday.

My appologies to everyone for ever posting this thread. I promice I wont do it anymore

I dont get it...But whatever.

 

[The Rider]

My appologies to everyone for ever posting this thread. I promice I wont do it anymore

Please don't stop.

Your tests are useful, informative & interesting.

The fact that they also happen to be somewhat provocative is just an added bonus