Snap-On doesn't want new customers.

[SKAutomotive]

That may be true, but wasting money is anyone's right. It's not anyone else's place to say that someone "has no business" having anything. Certainly a professional photographer is not going to tell you that you have no business owning photoshop, because it may be a waste of money to you. I don't go around telling 75% percent of the owners on the road that they have no business owning a diesel f-350 (though I'd like to), and I certainly don't expect an logger to come tell me that I have no business owning Stihl chainsaws. Again, you may feel that someone is wasting money, but it's a free country (still... kinda??).

I said multiple times in this thread that people have the right to seek out the products if they want them. What they don't have the right to do is expect a company to change their entire business model to cater to them, especially if they are not the person the company targets.

 

[mikehaugen]

That's not really what you said though.

Anyway, this is off topic, so let's just resume the conversation before we derail this thread further.

 

[wild cowboy]

Unless these tools are used, I find almost every Snap-on tool on eBay is actually higher than even the MSRP on Snapon.com.

you must not be much of an ebay searcher, I have a rule for myself that I will not pay over 50% of MSRP for new Snap-On, nor more than 35% on used, and I am able to find far more Snap-On tools that fit that those criteria than I can buy in any given week, and most SO tools I buy end up being new.

Though I will admit that deep searching on ebay is a skill, just like changing a timing belt!

Just because you think you have searched on ebay and found all 10 of a particular tool for sale, there could be 20 others you have failed to find! - It took me years to learn this!

 

[SKAutomotive]

you must not be much of an ebay searcher, I have a rule for myself that I will not pay over 50% of MSRP for new Snap-On, nor more than 35% on used, and I am able to find far more Snap-On tools that fit that those criteria than I can buy in any given week, and most SO tools I buy end up being new.

Though I will admit that deep searching on ebay is a skill, just like changing a timing belt!

Just because you think you have searched on ebay and found all 10 of a particular tool for sale, there could be 20 others you have failed to find! - It took me years to learn this!

I am quite avid with eBay, I would like maybe an example from an item you are not interested in pursuing. I find that people make a lot of money by upcharging on SO tools because most people do not bother to actually check the price from SO site.

 

[mikehaugen]

I agree with sk on this one, I rarely find any deals on snap-on stuff on ebay. I won't say there aren't deals to be had, just rare.

I did one time find a set of 1/4 metric sockets with a couple extensions on a matco socket rail. It was at like $52 and I guy I work with was looking over my shoulder. I said "it'll go up, just watch. I wasn't going to bother bidding, so he asked me to put a bid in for $60 for him. He actually ended up getting it for like $57... with my account! I was pissed. I kept by my word and let him have it at that price, but I sure learned a lesson. It was easily over $200 in tools.

 

[wild cowboy]

I am quite avid with eBay, I would like maybe an example from an item you are not interested in pursuing. I find that people make a lot of money by upcharging on SO tools because most people do not bother to actually check the price from SO site.

ok, I just went to the Snap On web site, got the part number for 6 point deep socket set, a very commonly purchased item, so you wouldn't think I was showing weird special cases - Snap-On part number is 212SFSMY - MSRP $269 (truck price)

the Snap catalog entry and price is shown here:
hbuy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=630559&group_ID=674837

now check out these recent ebay sales, all NEW! (and some even included a $15 magnetic holder, which makes the MSRP really $284)

63% off MSRP

61% off MSRP

60% off MSRP


58% off MSRP


56% off MSRP


I can keep going, but I think you get the point.

 

[Ryan]

Why on earth would you guys argue about tools? Over the Internet?

Think about it stupids...