Snap-on Dual 80 or High strength ratchets?

dreaminbimmers · Mar 20, 2008

First off, I have to say that I am really psyched to have stumbled onto this forum. I'm currently in the middle of planning a career change and will be wrenching full time come this fall. It is great to see that there are a lot of others out there that are passionate about their careers and hobbies and enjoy discussing them in their free time. It also just so happens that I have a tool fetish that needs to be sated on a regular basis.

So anyway, down to business...

I've been doing a lot of research and am putting together a shopping list. My biggest goals are to buy quality tools that will one; last many years of daily use, and two; increase efficiency and productivity as much as possible. I know that I want some new snap-on ratchets but am currently debating between the Dual 80s series ratchets with the 4.5 degree action and the high strength sealed ratchets with the 10 degree action. I know that many of you use these tools on a daily basis and am hoping that you can give me some feedback.

Thanks,
Pete

eschoendorff · Mar 21, 2008

I have a lightly used F936... and I would love to trade it up for one of the new 80s (if that tells you anything).

Merkava_4 · Mar 21, 2008

dreaminbimmers said:
I have a tool fetish that needs to be sated on a regular basis.

Dual 80s series ratchets with the 4.5 degree action and the high strength sealed ratchets with the 10 degree action.

Did you have to use so many ****** innuendoes in your first post? :shocking:

dreaminbimmers · Mar 21, 2008

I knew that I would find others on this forum that operate on similar wavelengths.

No seriously...I'm looking for a tool with a quality action and longevity.

Merkava_4 · Mar 21, 2008

dreaminbimmers said:
I'm looking for a tool with a quality action and longevity.

Rusty67 · Mar 21, 2008

dreaminbimmers said:
No seriously...I'm looking for a tool with a quality action and longevity.

Thats what she said.

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

Deafautotech · Mar 21, 2008

I own Long handle 80 FL80 and it is great! as i do own FLF80 which it is was come out at first thing my snap on guy offer me... that time i was use a lot of craftsman professional ratchets ( i dont own snap on ratchet until i am waork in dealership where i am heavy line tech so i had to bought FL80 and FLF80...

FL80 and FLF80 are same with older models as only different is teeth and degree swing..

krusty the clown · Mar 21, 2008

after i bought an f80 and a flf80 i don't pick up my 936's anymore.........

DavidtheDuke · Mar 21, 2008

Snap-On's 80 tooths are king right now. I have a F80, FX80, and FHL80. I also have their 1/4" 72-tooth version of their 3/8 ratchets. All excellent.

wrenchr · Mar 21, 2008

krusty the clown said:
after i bought an f80 and a flf80 i don't pick up my 936's anymore.........

Ditto

eschoendorff · Mar 21, 2008

krusty the clown said:
after i bought an f80 and a flf80 i don't pick up my 936's anymore.........

You guys are making me jealous... see post #2.

engnerdan · Mar 21, 2008

I just bought the F80 and it is nice, you almost can't feel it click the clicks are so small. I was surprised to see the cover was not sealed like my F830.

-Dan

Jaralaccs · Mar 21, 2008

I have both their long & short handle 80's and I love them to death
makes you wonder how you ever got by without them

TKmech · Mar 21, 2008

I recently purchased the FX80 and after a few days with that in my toolbox every other 3/8ths drive ratchet came home. I wouldn't want to use any other ratchet now.

creatureofthewheel · Mar 21, 2008

welcome dreaminbimmers. whats ur avatar? i just found this forum too its rad. lotsa bimmer dudes here i think. the 80s are awesome. just picked one up a month ago; LOVE IT. go for some mid-well sockets if u can!

Merkava_4 · Mar 21, 2008

engnerdan said:
I was surprised to see the cover was not sealed like my F830.

The F936 is the same way; it has always puzzled me as to why they would delete the cover seal.

eschoendorff · Mar 21, 2008

creatureofthewheel said:
welcome dreaminbimmers. whats ur avatar? i just found this forum too its rad. lotsa bimmer dudes here i think. the 80s are awesome. just picked one up a month ago; LOVE IT. go for some mid-well sockets if u can!

If by lots, you mean a couple, then u r right. Peace out.

Moose-LandTran · Mar 21, 2008

creatureofthewheel said:
welcome dreaminbimmers.

That's an Audi Quattro WRC car. looks like it's a safari rally spec, although it may be a gravel rally spec one. beast of a machine.

dreaminbimmers · Mar 21, 2008

Thanks for all the input. I'm definitely going to put the Dual 80 on my list.

As for the avatar...
Audi Quattro it is. I think it's one of the earlier spec B cars before they came out with the full aero body kit. I can only imagine catching big air in a 400+ horsepower all wheel drive monster. Here is some classic footage for those of you that like high speed action and don't mind a little **** rock.

Moose-LandTran · Mar 21, 2008

pretty sure it is a Group B, but before the Sport Quattro and long before the S1s with the big wings, spoilers and 750bhp..

wrenchr · Mar 21, 2008

Merkava_4 said:
The F936 is the same way; it has always puzzled me as to why they would delete the cover seal.

Because they do not leak thru that. They do tend to seap around the ratchet head though. All of them f830 f936 and f80.

dreaminbimmers · Mar 21, 2008

...a little more off topic action.

Classic!

Moose-LandTran · Mar 21, 2008

wrenchr said:
Because they do not leak thru that. They do tend to seap around the ratchet head though. All of them f830 f936 and f80.

yeah, mine do that. is it normal or is it time to replace the o-ring?

eschoendorff · Mar 21, 2008

dreaminbimmers said:
...a little more off topic action.

Classic!

Uh, what does this have to do with teh 80 series ratchets? Perhaps you were looking to post in free parking?

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=16

engnerdan · Mar 21, 2008

Here are some pictures I took of the inside of my F80. I did not get all too ambitious and take it fully apart yet but I will eventually.

-Dan

DavidtheDuke · Mar 21, 2008

That "bird" spring they have in there is the key, I think. I haven't opened up many different branded ratchets. Is other brand's floating pawls use this same spring design, it's just SO optimized it?

johnny1290 · Mar 22, 2008

I love my f80. My two other 936s are alwyas kinda of a let down when I reach for a ratchet and grab one of those. Makes me search for the f80 to use asap.

deafautotech talks about his flf80 all teh time. He really makes me want to get one!

Merkava_4 · Mar 22, 2008

Moose-LandTran said:
yeah, mine do that. is it normal or is it time to replace the o-ring?

When I got my new FLF936, grease would ooz out from around the square drive; so I'd say it's normal.

PS. I don't get to use the word ooz very often.

krusty the clown · Mar 22, 2008

Merkava_4 said:
When I got my new FLF936, grease would ooz out from around the square drive; so I'd say it's normal.

PS. I don't get to use the word ooz very often.

none of my 936's oozed.........maybe i wasn't stroking them right :lol_hitti

dxdexter · Mar 22, 2008

krusty the clown said:
none of my 936's oozed.........maybe i wasn't stroking them right

I agree, mine has never oozzed and I stroked the hell out of it last night. I did however notice it got a little stiffer than normal.

Seriously, mine has never leaked any lubrication.

eschoendorff · Mar 22, 2008

Merkava_4 said:
When I got my new FLF936, grease would ooz out from around the square drive; so I'd say it's normal.

PS. I don't get to use the word ooz very often.

My 936 did the same thing. I called someone at Snap On corporate and they told me it was normal... mine probably was just a little "overgreased" from teh factory.

Anyone have a pic of the Proto Big Dawg innards handy taht we can compare to teh F80?

wrenchr · Mar 22, 2008

Merkava_4 said:
When I got my new FLF936, grease would ooz out from around the square drive; so I'd say it's normal.

PS. I don't get to use the word ooz very often.

I would say it was overloaded then.

wrenchr · Mar 22, 2008

The big dog is different.

eschoendorff · Mar 22, 2008

wrenchr said:
The big dog is different.

Pics????????

toolfreak · Mar 22, 2008

I haven't bought an 80 tooth ratchet yet but have tried them and really like them. I did buy a 72 tooth 1/4" drive ratchet the other day and love it. I think I am going to trade in my 3/8"s ratchets and buy the 80's next week.

creatureofthewheel · Mar 22, 2008

Weren't tryin to ruffle anyone's feathers about bimmer dudes in here. just noticed a "couple" of the names. anyway its the "tools" that matter right. about the F80; is the non sealed cover a big concern? ive always heard the Snappy guys will rebuild the ratchets if u have a problem. do they make a special lube?

wrenchr · Mar 22, 2008

eschoendorff said:
Pics????????

NO pics but I have seen both.

eschoendorff · Mar 22, 2008

creatureofthewheel said:
Weren't tryin to ruffle anyone's feathers about bimmer dudes in here. just noticed a "couple" of the names. anyway its the "tools" that matter right. about the F80; is the non sealed cover a big concern? ive always heard the Snappy guys will rebuild the ratchets if u have a problem. do they make a special lube?

No problem. Spoken by one of the Corvette guys, :lol:

I wouldn't hesitate to buy that Snap On ratchet - seal or no seal. And yes, any Snap On rep worth his salt will rebuild that ratchet for you.

Rusty67 · Mar 23, 2008

Are there certain ratchets that will take more abuse/torque going through them based on the tooth count or does that come mainly from the materials the parts are made of ?

creatureofthewheel · Mar 24, 2008

i love this forum. yall can appreciate this. i brought home a euro bumper for an e30 from a junkyard. it was nasty and would not fit in my garage sink for proper cleaning. while my wife was watching a movie upstairs, i sneeked it into the shower with me!!!!!! waithing for my day off on tuesday to run all the chrome thru the dishwasher!!

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