Snap On F836 question?

[unashamedlaborer]

So I have not been able to get a clear answer from all the old threads ive searched. is the F836 36 or 30 teeth?
I just bought one on ebay assuming it was 36.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0510100736&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT

thanks for all the input. hope I didn't get the short end of the stick on this one.

 

[tonydanzah]

i think anytime you see 36 in the name its 36 tooth

 

[00S4Boy]

https://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/parts/pro_det.asp?Item_id=1745&group_id=24009

 

[unashamedlaborer]

https://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/parts/pro_det.asp?Item_id=1745&group_id=24009

thanks I think....

does anyone think it was still a good deal?

 

[tonydanzah]

i guess i was wrong, are all the 36 pn mean a 30 tooth?

 

[00S4Boy]

thanks I think....

does anyone think it was still a good deal?

I may be mistaken but even though it's an 836 i believe that link says it is a 30 tooth ratchet.

Seems like a well enough deal for a hard handle ratchet.

I'm no hard handle vintage fanatic though. But being that i work on cars for a living, i always think worst case scenario, tight space and no room so i look for the least bulky lowest ratcheting arc ratchet i can get, ie why i use the dual80's.

 

[00S4Boy]

i guess i was wrong, are all the 36 pn mean a 30 tooth?

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/parts/pro_det.asp?Item_id=15221&group_id=13498

 

[wreckercologist]

All F800 series ratchets are 30 tooth.

All F900 series ratchets are 36 tooth.

The F83(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ect) denote handle configuration. Only on the later series (900's & Dual 80's) Did Snap-on fully adopt Letters to denote handles (FL, FK, FLF, FX, FC, FCF, ect).

For the record, here are all of the 800 series part #'s I'm aware off:

F830
FK830
FK831
FL830
F831
GF830
GFL830
GF831
F836O (orange handle)
F836
FL836
FK835
F835
F851
F852

And yes, I believe you got a good deal. I woulda' bought it for that.

 

[Merkava_4]

The F836 you bought is a 30 tooth with 3 seals. The F936 is a 36 tooth with 2 seals. The 830 series has the potential to be a very smooth operator if it's lubed properly.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

The F836 you bought is a 30 tooth with 3 seals. The F936 is a 36 tooth with 2 seals. The 830 series has the potential to be a very smooth operator if it's lubed properly.

I think ive got some stuff in my nightstand that should work really well.

is that where you keep that red stuff of yours Merk?

 

[wreckercologist]

The F836 you bought is a 30 tooth with 3 seals. The F936 is a 36 tooth with 2 seals. The 830 series has the potential to be a very smooth operator if it's lubed properly.

They're really quite nice. I don't really care for the 936's. Most of what I use daily are the Dual 80's but I like keeping around a few of the old 800's because the head is so much smaller than the F80's.

 

[Merkava_4]

I think ive got some stuff in my nightstand that should work really well.

is that where you keep that red stuff of yours Merk?

Only the MAC ratchets get the red stuff.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

They're really quite nice. I don't really care for the 936's. Most of what I use daily are the Dual 80's but I like keeping around a few of the old 800's because the head is so much smaller than the F80's.

that makes sense. I have a dual 80....... It reminds me of a cave man club because the head is so big....other than that I love it.

Only the MAC ratchets get the red stuff.

why only the MAC's ? are they particularly coarse?

 

[Bart Simpson]

It went for less $ because it was engraved and had some wear.....even with those issues..... you got it cheap.

It is a good ratchet, the difference in " gear action " or sweep is only 2 degrees from the 30T at 12 deg. to the 36T at 10 deg.

The 3/8" and 1/2" Duall 80 is 4.5 deg. " gear action " .

The 800 and 900 series ratchets look similar as they are both sealed heads.
Even without the part # , an easy to tell them apart is that the 800 series selector is held on with a torx screw where the 900 series doesent use a screw.

The majority of these hard handle ratchets for sale on eBay are the 800 series.

Here are a few threads that discuss some of these ratchet differences in some detail.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63066

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49048

 

[unashamedlaborer]

It went for less $ because it was engraved and had some wear.....even with those issues..... you got it cheap.

It is a good ratchet, the difference in " gear action " or sweep is only 2 degrees from the 30T at 12 deg. to the 36T at 10 deg.

The 3/8" and 1/2" Duall 80 is 4.5 deg. " gear action " .

The 800 and 900 series ratchets look similar as they are both sealed heads.
Even without the part # , an easy to tell them apart is that the 800 series selector is held on with a torx screw where the 900 series doesent use a screw.

The majority of these hard handle ratchets for sale on eBay are the 800 series.

Here are a few threads that discuss some of these ratchet differences in some detail.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63066

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49048

thanks for all the info. are these ratchets pretty smooth in nature?
I had a 936? 1/4" drive snappy that was HORRIBLE I traded it for the TX72
and it is by far my favorite ratchet ever.

 

[Merkava_4]

why only the MAC's ? are they particularly coarse?

The MAC's have a soft plunger spring; so grease makes the things run mushy to the point where they won't even click. Regular light oil is too thin and doesn't do much to quiet them down. RLL is just right.

 

[Bart Simpson]

thanks for all the info. are these ratchets pretty smooth in nature?
I had a 936? 1/4" drive snappy that was HORRIBLE I traded it for the TX72
and it is by far my favorite ratchet ever.

There not bad at all , but don't be afraid to put some light oil in it.

Did you try cleaning and lubing the ratchet you had an issue with ?

My 936 1/4" drive ratchets are very smooth with low resistence.

Of the pre Dual 80 ratchets ,the 700 series seem to have the least ratcheting resistence to me.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

There not bad at all , but don't be afraid to put some light oil in it.

Did you try cleaning and lubing the ratchet you had an issue with ?

My 936 1/4" drive ratchets are very smooth with low resistence.

Of the pre Dual 80 ratchets ,the 700 series seem to have the least ratcheting resistence to me.

yea I tried light oil then grease the grease helped with the resistance but not with the binding and popping. I took it to my Snap on guy and he took it apart looked at it and said theres nothing wrong with it...... thats within "normal operating" specifications or something like that.

I should have told him that if that was normal for a snap on tool than I didn't want to buy any more of them.

instead I traded it in on the TX72. I love the ratchet to death but for that dealer I cant say the same.