Snap On FAR7200 or FAR72C?

[sbebenelli]

Thinking of getting either the FAR7200 or FAR72C. Having a hard time deciding what one to get. Thinking more of the FAR7200 because of the muffler and cushion grip. My dealer keeps the FAR72C on his truck and that's the one he seems to push. Why wouldn't everyone buy the FAR7200 since it would be quieter and has the cushioned grip?

 

[chadster1]

Thinking of getting either the FAR7200 or FAR72C. Having a hard time deciding what one to get. Thinking more of the FAR7200 because of the muffler and cushion grip. My dealer keeps the FAR72C on his truck and that's the one he seems to push. Why wouldn't everyone buy the FAR7200 since it would be quieter and has the cushioned grip?

Just my experience, the FAR72C seems to be more reliable. Not to say that the FAR7200 is not a good air ratchet though. I only keep the FAR72C on my truck as well.

 

[billymade]

chadster1, what is the failure point or weaknesses in the 7200? I have both 7200/72B and they both needed to get rebuilt.... I know the buttons tend to break... wish they were metal!

Also, whats the diff between 72B and 72C? IF you have the 72B rebuilt will it have the internals upgraded to the C?

 

[CamarosRus]

Chadster, As I've mentioned elsewhere I have a Very Good condition, but old FAR70.

Is there any reality in selling it for ??? $$$$

Thanks for your obvious knowledge

Chuck

 

[chadster1]

Chadster, As I've mentioned elsewhere I have a Very Good condition, but old FAR70.

Is there any reality in selling it for ??? $$$$

Thanks for your obvious knowledge

Chuck

I am not familiar with the FAR70

 

[chadster1]

chadster1, what is the failure point or weaknesses in the 7200? I have both 7200/72B and they both needed to get rebuilt.... I know the buttons tend to break... wish they were metal!

Also, whats the diff between 72B and 72C? IF you have the 72B rebuilt will it have the internals upgraded to the C?

It has been several years since I have had a 7200 on my truck. I think the issues I saw had to do with the variable muffler on the 7200.

The head is the main difference between the b and c models. If a 72B is sent in for repair, it will return with the 72C style head on it.

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

I have an FAR72C that I bought to replace my old one. I Looked at the new FAR7200 on another dealers truck and didn't like it as well. Like chadster, my dealer does not carry them.

 

[Fubar]

I bought a 7200 and hated it. Slower and less power. Traded it back with less than three weeks use and got another 72.....

 

[country83]

The 72C uses a different trigger style than the 72B which gives it more airflow and more power. The 7200 uses a similar style trigger as the C, but doesn't have the power.

 

[MrMark]

I don't get this. I have the 72C but the Snap-on info states the far7200 is more powerful, yet everyone here states that is not so. I picked the far72c because it just looks cooler.

 

[country83]

According to the Snap-on site, the 7200 has a max of 70 ft-lbs, where the 72C maxes out at 65. Will you notice the difference? I don't think I would.

 

[mrshaun]

you cant tell the difference between any of them except the far720. it is no longer available. I have guys that swear by it. I only carry the far72c and as long as you do not try to remove lug nuts with it you will be ok
the far70 is old a paper weight. no parts and I have not seen them sell on ebay for much at all...

 

[wellstig1]

I've had my 7200 for about 5 years and have had zero problems with it. It definitely is faster than the 72, power feels about the same.

 

[Toolhorder]

My FAR72B just broke. The male end the socket goes on snapped off. The ratchet still works but you can't attach a socket to it or anything. Local Snappy dealer says I can't just replace the part that broke and I need to send it in for $150 flat rate bill which I think is a little steep knowing it just needs the one little part. Dealer had NO 3/8 ratchets whatsoever (but did have a recip. saw, go figure) and laughed when I asked if he could call another dealer and see if they have one on their truck that I could buy new as a replacement. That was two weeks ago and I haven't seen the jerk since. I had a bunch of big jobs I needed the ratchet for(******, engine, etc)
Knowing what a good ratchet it is I'd like to keep it or get another one but I'm not paying that $150 or whatever Snappy wants. That's absurd.

I used a co-workers thin headed Mac ratchet but didn't like loud noise and lower power than the Snappy ratchet.
Matco gave me a "pitbull" demo to try and it's WAY more powerful than the FAR72 but the selector is hard to turn on the head. It's pretty tight and I have to use a pair of pliers to turn it. The ratchet itself is very powerful however. With the FAR72 I had to break it loose first or it will pin your hand to whatever is in the way.
The Matco ratchet has so much torque if you kinda start it first and put it on a bolt head it will just break it loose. It's just as nasty if you put your hand in it's way too. Just seems to have a lot more torque.
Also the trigger is variable which is nice.
Just saying check other options before you settle. I'm planning on picking up the Matco ratchet. Snappy is high with that rebuild price and my dealer is a ********.


Checked the Matco site and the ratchet I'm talking about is their heavy duty model. Puts out 130 lbs. torque max.

 

[mrshaun]

I just sent in a far72c that a guy broke trying to remove lugnuts ( he is not that smart) and it was about 115 plus tax. ask your guy about the flat rate repair price in his computer and see what he tells you. you could send it yourself to western repair and I bet they would take care of you. it is in carson city i think

 

[wellstig1]

Heres the parts list

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/parts/pro_det.asp?Item_id=216&group_id=6980

 

[mrshaun]

notice A is not available for purchase. I cant even buy the head kit for it. I have tried and was told that it would cost me about 100 bucks so almost the same price to send it in get stripped down fixed and given a 90 day warranty.

 

[Toolhorder]

I just sent in a far72c that a guy broke trying to remove lugnuts ( he is not that smart) and it was about 115 plus tax. ask your guy about the flat rate repair price in his computer and see what he tells you. you could send it yourself to western repair and I bet they would take care of you. it is in carson city i think

Well to add to my story I called Snappy to see if they could get just the part I need and I got denied. They told me to go through my dealer and I explained our little exchange. I'm not faulting the dealer about the repair prices because that's not set by him and I'm not even faulting him for not having a new ratchet on the truck but when he laughed at me about trying to get me one from another dealer it kinda set me off. I'm a master tech in my dealer with a huge work load of heavy duty type work so I can't wait weeks on end for a replacement. I would have sent my old one in and bought a new one on the spot BUT that was too hard for my dealer. Snappy corp. gave me another dealer's number in my city and he had one and would be willing to sell it to me and also mentioned that if my dealer called him he could get it from him and sell it to me still BUT my dealer hasn't come back so I'm kinda screwed at the moment.
If we could call and get another dealer I'd do it in a heartbeat. Ours is useless.



Hey do you have any info for this repair place? Maybe I can call them and get this thing fixed myself. It's like my dad always told me if you want something done do it yourself.

 

[CamarosRus]

Chadster and Shaun, OK, If and when my FAR70 quits working for whatever reason...whats your opinion of how Snap On service dept will treat my claim........if they cant in fact repair the obsolete FAR70.

Thanks,

 

[Toolhorder]

I mean the rebuild prices are crazy. I could buy this one here (first one that came up in a search) and throw away my old one for less than the rebuild price...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Snap...tZMotors_Automotive_Tools?hash=item4a9fd9f016

 

[Toolhorder]

Chadster and Shaun, OK, If and when my FAR70 quits working for whatever reason...whats your opinion of how Snap On service dept will treat my claim........if they cant in fact repair the obsolete FAR70.

Thanks,

Throw away item...Go do a search on feebay for snappy air ratchet and take your pick of FAR70's on there. I noticed about 5 on the first couple pages that were super cheap. I'd just buy up a couple cheap ones for use and when they break make them parts tools. I think that's what I'm going to do OR just buy that Matco ratchet and hope I don't lose a finger or hand.

 

[billymade]

I was under the impression if you have a obsolete tool that needed repair, Snap-On would give you a break on the currently shipping similar air-tool; dealers.... is this true or you just sol?

 

[MrMark]

I just sent in a far72c that a guy broke trying to remove lugnuts ( he is not that smart) and it was about 115 plus tax. ask your guy about the flat rate repair price in his computer and see what he tells you. you could send it yourself to western repair and I bet they would take care of you. it is in carson city i think

I realize a brute could ring the drive off or strip the gears of a 3/8 ratchet on lug nuts, so please correct me if I am wrong here, but can't you use this ratchet manually to break things loose and then put the air to it? Isn't that the way you are supposed to deal with tough fasteners?

This unit is as strong in manual mode as a regular 3/8 ratchet isn't it?

Please let me know, I don't want to damage my ratchet using it manually to break bolts loose before engaging the air.

 

[billymade]

Thats what I do all the time with my far7200 and I haven't broken it yet; now I am being told the 7200 is a weaker tool, go figure! I do know that many people get used to a certain tool and they don't like the newer version or revised tool of something because of the familiarity issue... this maybe the case but everyone seems to be saying the Far72C is better! I bought a far72B that needs rebuilt; maybe I should send it in and I can compare it to my 7200.... I wonder..

 

[MrMark]

IMO, the rebuild prices are steep unless you have a late model unit that is just thoroughly trashed from heavy use.

You also should consider just getting the parts and fixing it yourself. Air tools are very simple devices to take apart and rebuild. Fun too!

 

[Tatersalad]

I have a FAR7200 and I'm very happy with it so far, I've used a 72c and liked it as well. I just liked the soft grip on the 7200 more so I bought it instead. I also considered the matco Pitbull but when my dealer got one and I checked it out I noticed it said Taiwan right on it...

 

[Fubar]

I mean the rebuild prices are crazy. I could buy this one here (first one that came up in a search) and throw away my old one for less than the rebuild price...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Snap...tZMotors_Automotive_Tools?hash=item4a9fd9f016

The ratchet's are the high side of three hundred to buy new, so a repair/rebuild for 115-125 doesn't seem high to me. Buying used one's is an unknown, and I doubt that one's going for 50.00 at the end of the auction...

And I thought enough of the 7200 to happily lose 150.00$ on my three week old one on a trade in to get another 72..

 

[daveblank]

My FAR72B just broke. The male end the socket goes on snapped off. The ratchet still works but you can't attach a socket to it or anything. Local Snappy dealer says I can't just replace the part that broke and I need to send it in for $150 flat rate bill which I think is a little steep knowing it just needs the one little part.

Matco gave me a "pitbull" demo to try and it's WAY more powerful than the FAR72 but the selector is hard to turn on the head. It's pretty tight and I have to use a pair of pliers to turn it. The ratchet itself is very powerful however. With the FAR72 I had to break it loose first or it will pin your hand to whatever is in the way.
The Matco ratchet has so much torque if you kinda start it first and put it on a bolt head it will just break it loose. It's just as nasty if you put your hand in it's way too. Just seems to have a lot more torque.
Also the trigger is variable which is nice.
Just saying check other options before you settle. I'm planning on picking up the Matco ratchet. Snappy is high with that rebuild price and my dealer is a ********.


Checked the Matco site and the ratchet I'm talking about is their heavy duty model. Puts out 130 lbs. torque max.

On your 72B, it's going to take more than just the anvil. All of the parts will need to be upgraded to the 72C. I would assume that since there is an upgrade involved that's why they don't sell the parts.

Give the Pitbull back to the Matco guy & tell him to send it in for repair. The selector knob should not be that stiff.

 

[VegaS10]

I recently purchased a rebuilt 72B at a yard sale pretty cheap. The guy was retiring from contract work on Fort Bragg and no longer needed his tools. He told me the trick he always used was to break the bolts first, then use the air ratchet. Doing so prevents a TON of wear and tear on the unit.

I just rebuilt the suspension on my old civic and followed his advice. Working on a 20 year old car with stuck bolts, I'm glad I listened to him. Some of those bolts required my 24 inch SO breaker bar to get loose. If I just threw the 72B on them, it would have destroyed the internals.

I am very happy with the 72B.

 

[Toolhorder]

On your 72B, it's going to take more than just the anvil. All of the parts will need to be upgraded to the 72C. I would assume that since there is an upgrade involved that's why they don't sell the parts.

Give the Pitbull back to the Matco guy & tell him to send it in for repair. The selector knob should not be that stiff.

I think I'm just going to buy a used FAR72B or C OR the Matco unit. Even though it's Taiwan. It's still more powerful than Snappy's ratchet.

 

[chadster1]

Chadster and Shaun, OK, If and when my FAR70 quits working for whatever reason...whats your opinion of how Snap On service dept will treat my claim........if they cant in fact repair the obsolete FAR70.

Thanks,

The tool will get returned as unrepairable. If you could produce proof of purchase for the FAR70 then you could probably get to purchase a new ratchet at 1/2 price. Without proof of purchase, there is not anything that can be done. Air Tools have a one year warranty.

 

[chadster1]

I think I'm just going to buy a used FAR72B or C OR the Matco unit. Even though it's Taiwan. It's still more powerful than Snappy's ratchet.

Welcome back. I know I have missed reading your cheerful posts.

 

[peter_x]

Some of those bolts required my 24 inch SO breaker bar to get loose. If I just threw the 72B on them, it would have destroyed the internals.

It's your fingers you would have destroyed.

 

[mrshaun]

yeah the really old tools can only be fixed for so long. just like your home PC sometimes you just have to start over.

 

[rayzor32]

Wait so the far7200 is no good? I think I read somewhere they are more sensitive to water is that true? We have crappy air at my work but i oil my tools twice daily. I've used the far72c and its great I was thinking that the 7200 would be better because you have the option of making it quieter.

 

[padronanniversary]

far72C is the way to go

 

[rayzor32]

You have any experience with the far70? Used tool truck guy has a working one and a parts one $35 for both

 

[padronanniversary]

for $35 why not buy that as a spare !

 

[rayzor32]

Chadster and Shaun, OK, If and when my FAR70 quits working for whatever reason...whats your opinion of how Snap On service dept will treat my claim........if they cant in fact repair the obsolete FAR70.

Thanks,

how do you like the FAR70, I talked to the snap-on guy of course he trying to sell me a far72 told me its outdated 35ft lbs etc.. Anyway I can get a working far70 and a parts one for 35 bucks from this used tool guy.. if they are any good it might be worth it.

 

[rayzor32]

Just my experience, the FAR72C seems to be more reliable. Not to say that the FAR7200 is not a good air ratchet though. I only keep the FAR72C on my truck as well.

I asked my snap on guy about that, he told me the far7200 was better and that the rest is the same.. I told him that I don't like rubber grips, but he kept saying "trust me you will want it in the winter when its freezing".. still I just hate rubber grips. He said he sells them 2 to 1 to the 72c, I like the 72c better because the metal handle is more comfortable to me. I never got to use a 7200 yet but I do like the fact that you can dial down the power and noise.. just wish the offered it with the 72c grip.